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Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:29:

Logic Pro vs. Ableton

I'm completely new at this, so I was looking for which might be easier to get started with. I'm running on a Mac, so I know Logic Pro might be a little bit more geared towards that, but other than that, any suggestions?


Posted by Subtle on Jul-20-2010 20:31:

Ableton


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:33:

Or is there something else that might be easier?


Posted by sterilis on Jul-20-2010 20:36:

jump in the deep end with logic you won't regret it!


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by sterilis
jump in the deep end with logic you won't regret it!


so are you saying logic is harder to use then?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 20:45:

Well, first try both and see which you like best.

Lots of people say that Logic has a steeper learning curve but nicer included synths and effects. I tend to agree with that.


Posted by Eric J on Jul-20-2010 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
so are you saying logic is harder to use then?


Depends on who you are and what YOU need.

There are multiple options on Mac:

Cubase, Ableton, Logic, Digital Performer, Garageband, etc.

Best thing to do it download demos if available or review the product literature on each site and determine which package suits you best. There are loads of tutorials and feature tours on YouTube.

Choosing a DAW package is a very personal choice. One of us will tell you that Logic is best, while another might tell you that DP is better or Ableton is best. This is based purely on personal opinion, so the best thing to do is do some research and try to see which one works best for you.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:47:

Do you know of any good torrent programs for Macs? I'm trying to also avoid the price tag.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-20-2010 20:47:

You're asking one of the forbidden questions.












You will be subjected to the ultimate sanction: A series of half-hearted, smart-assed replies which, like any serious answer you'd get, mean absolutely nothing.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Do you know of any good torrent programs for Macs? I'm trying to also avoid the price tag.

Perhaps you should avoid production altogether.

That sounds like a good plan to me.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:51:

bahh yeah i know different people have different tastes in what they like, but i'm really just looking for which is easiest to get started with.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Perhaps you should avoid production altogether.

That sounds like a good plan to me.


did that make you feel better about yourself? Perhaps you should go back under your bridge.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
did that make you feel better about yourself?

Yes.

Lazy cheapasses like you who want shortcuts every step of the way are what is wrong with music.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-20-2010 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Yes.

Lazy cheapasses like you who want shortcuts every step of the way are what is wrong with music.


i would normally keep my opinion to myself here but...



amen me Jive, amen.


Posted by Eric J on Jul-20-2010 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Yes.

Lazy cheapasses like you who want shortcuts every step of the way are what is wrong with music.


It doesn't really matter anyway. If the guy is too lazy to even do the research, he'll probably get frustrated and give up quickly. I mean a big part of production is having the motivation to figure out how to do things on your own, so if he can't even be arsed to do that, then he isn't going to get very far.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
It doesn't really matter anyway. If the guy is too lazy to even do the research, he'll probably get frustrated and give up quickly. I mean a big part of production is having the motivation to figure out how to do things on your own, so if he can't even be arsed to do that, then he isn't going to get very far.

True.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 21:08:

Wow, someone who's never produced before wanting input from people who have suddenly makes them lazy?

THIS is what's wrong with music, pretentious assholes who sit behind a computer judging people because that's the only way they can feel important in their otherwise meaningless lives.

Congratulations, you guys are awesome.


Posted by Subtle on Jul-20-2010 21:10:

Ableton has an easier learning curve, and there are millions of tutorials on youtube telling you how to do everything you can wish for.


Posted by DJ_Rafnel on Jul-20-2010 21:14:

I think it really depends on what your looking for.

Straight production i would say go with Logic. Maybe demo it out or try Logic express before jumping into the full price version though.

If your gonna do mashups and maybe some DJing as well as production, def Ableton.

I used Ableton for the past 2 years and 2 months ago switched to Logic for producing. I love both. Either is a great choice.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 21:16:

Thanks all


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Wow, someone who's never produced before wanting input from people who have suddenly makes them lazy?

Nothing at all wrong with wanting input, but you seem to want everything mapped out for you and then have it not cost anything. Entitlement mentality.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 21:22:

Okay, well if you were in a grocery store and saw some kind of food that you've never tasted before, would you want to pay $200-$500 for it, or would you rather taste it for free first?


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 21:23:

mmm logic pro nomnomnom


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-20-2010 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Okay, well if you were in a grocery store and saw some kind of food that you've never tasted before, would you want to pay $200-$500 for it, or would you rather taste it for free first?

Meh, I have no problem with people using torrents for demo purposes. But you said you wanted to "avoid the price tag," so I assumed you meant you would never buy it at all.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-20-2010 21:33:

no sir, just don't wanna pay that much for something I don't end up liking. I don't have any problem paying that much once I discover what fits.


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