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Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 15:12:

Question Dramatical changes in the world...

I think the government is trying to hide information of such importance, that if we knew what they where hiding from us, we as human race would never be the same again!!!

I wonder if there are people on this board who think the same about this!

It is quite obvisious that they are hiding secrets, what imo is proved due to the ufo phenomena. So don't say they're hiding nothing...
Example: Area 51. No one knows exactly what is going on in there!!

For me, the big question is: What are they hiding from us, and WHY??


Comments are welcome!!!


Posted by Nadi on Jul-23-2002 15:18:

Ive been to area 51 . Well I saw it on my way to vegas at least But seriously all that conspiracy stuff is just a conspiracy, all there really hiding is all the stupid political decisions.


Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 15:24:

Do you realy believe they are only hiding ploitical mistakes??? I don't think so!


Posted by Tak on Jul-23-2002 15:26:

There is a secret behind all that Roswell crap, but there are so many theories about the government doesn't have to worry any more.

Did I ever tell you guys I was abducted by aliens?


Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Tak
Did I ever tell you guys I was abducted by aliens?


I think the government is realy behind this!


Posted by bluejay on Jul-23-2002 15:36:

i trust the government as far as i can throw them....

what about the assination of jfk...i think we should all have the truth about that.

they will hide anything that will make a mockery out of them


Posted by k.k.d. on Jul-23-2002 15:36:

I think it's stupid to speculate on such things...


Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by k.k.d.
I think it's stupid to speculate on such things...


Why then?


Posted by bluejay on Jul-23-2002 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by k.k.d.
I think it's stupid to speculate on such things...


to speculate the truth on such things, that the government may be hiding from the public...how is that stupid???


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 18:46:

Don't complain!

the wool keeps your eyes warm doesn't it?


Posted by eLe_vatE on Jul-23-2002 18:51:

What about that big asteroid that came within something like 400 miles of the earth a few weeks back, apparently they only saw it after it passed , they probably knew for weeks they just didnt want everyone shitting themselves, either that or astronomers looking for that stuff are fucking retarded


Posted by bluejay on Jul-23-2002 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Don't complain!

the wool keeps your eyes warm doesn't it?


i'm not amused


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 19:38:

Sorry mate, i only jest. there are tons of things that the government doesn't want you to know. it's up to you to judge reality for yourself, based on your own observations.

I can tell you the first and most valuable lesson that i have ever learned. here are a few different ways of putting it

My way:
I am ignorant of a great many things, and i have much to learn.

A paraphrased chinese proverb:
only a wise man knows how truly dumb he really is.
the dumb only think they are wise.

or, in the immortal words of some punk rock snarler:
"all i know is that don't know nuthin"!

but, there are things you can do to find out the truth. keep your eyes and ears open wide. believe only 1/4 of what you hear, and half of what you see. verify things for yourself, trust your intution.

here are some good websites to start uncovering what is really going on in this world.


http://www.fair.org/ fairness in reporting
http://www.projectcensored.org/ what they don't want you to know
http://www.thetruth.com/ an organization mostly dedicated to spreading the truth about tobbacco

these are only a start, you must find your own way.

and.. of course take these with a grain of salt, you never know, they may try to mislead you as well.

welcome to the game.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by bluejay

i'm not amused


oh damn! i just realized you are from washington DC. that is the lying capital of the world! good luck trying to find the truth there.


Posted by bluejay on Jul-23-2002 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith


oh damn! i just realized you are from washington DC. that is the lying capital of the world! good luck trying to find the truth there.


lol...now i'm amused


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 19:57:

Well.. it is a little funny i guess in a superficial way.


but, if you think a little deeper about it. the lies of the USA are responsible for the misleading of a great many people in the country.

not to mention the death of many innocent people in countries abroad.

and it all starts in your little town, don't you feel honoured?

not so funny now is it?


Posted by bluejay on Jul-23-2002 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Well.. it is a little funny i guess in a superficial way.


but, if you think a little deeper about it. the lies of the USA are responsible for the misleading of a great many people in the country.

not to mention the death of many innocent people in countries abroad.

and it all starts in your little town, don't you feel honoured?

not so funny now is it?


no, it's still funny...i mean you actually trying to lecture me about not believing everything that i read/hear, yet you try to tell me the truth about how things are. it's REALLY funny actually if you think about it. but i guess what you have heard about the u.s. is most definitely truthful, especially about that part where "it all starts in my little town"...yeah, i can see you are very wise and intelligent man where i'm just so naive


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 20:54:

well.. you have a point, that i am naive as well. i don't think i know all the answers.

but, after 23 years on this planet, and quite extensive research, i have come to the conclusion that the USA is out for world domination, through methods such as the world bank.

but, hey, maybe your right. maybe that is just what they want me to think.

maybe it's some nice polish girl that is running it all from behind the scenes!

*points at Julie_Spyder*

there she is, grab her!


Posted by halo99 on Jul-23-2002 21:01:

I think there's a lot of stuff the government hides from us. a lot of it, as mentioned, may just be political decisions, but i'm sure there is stuff they don't want getting out.

my dad doesn't believe the Americans ever landed on the moon. while neither you or i can prove they did, they probably did. But you can't brush over the fact they might have put that out to be 1st in the space race...


Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 22:02:

I believe that the government has already the technology to visit other solar systems, but are not telling it us.
They want to keep it for themselves.

Maybe this is because the world ain't ready for it yet, or maybe because they have been using it all the time for there own profits, so they would make a great scandal if it comes out to the public...

I don't know, and i'm affraid I will never be able to know the exact truth about how our system "realy" works..

Do you guy's think we will EVER be able to know the exact trutht??


Posted by Nadi on Jul-23-2002 22:05:

I just think your all paranoid


Posted by junis on Jul-23-2002 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
I just think your all paranoid


Then, I think, you are a little naive..


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-23-2002 23:02:

a few things.

in the immortal words of kurt cobain:

"Just because your paranoid, don't mean they're not after you"

also. ignorance is bliss, some people don't want to know.

eat up fishy.


Posted by Nadi on Jul-23-2002 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by junis


Then, I think, you are a little naive..


Im not saying that nothings being held from people. I am however saying that you guys are thinking of some really stupid stuff. I highly doubt people have traveled to other solar systems. I do agree that some stuff has not been told or not accuratly to the general public, but I dont think its as serious as some of you think


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Jul-24-2002 00:13:

yes, the government is most definitely hiding stuff from us. sum of it is hidden for national security reasons, others to maintain the power of the elite and so on

also, theres many different secret organizations within the government, whose budgets run into the billions but are masked and stuff...

u just have to pick up any of the non-fiction espionage books and u'll see that theres been alot of amazing stuff going on that no-one in the general public knew abt!

i also think that the government knows stuff about ETs but isn't disclosing it...after all, real government-funded studies have been conducted to investigate the matter...who knows what they really found out?


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