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Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-29-2010 01:11:

So I entered in a local DJ competition....

i've never entered in one before, i have 15 mins to wow the crowd and judges, winner gets a roster slot on the new big name production team in town

my plan is to put my production background into use and do up my own edits and mashups and also produce up a new dj intro and outro with effects and my name

what i'm looking for is some cool acapellas or some suggestions to make my set stand out even more

i'll be playing clubby electro stuff, 132-135 bpm range


Posted by JD8180 on Jul-29-2010 01:27:

don't really venture much into electro so I can't help you there, but since the dj booth only has a small handful of active people, why don't you try posting this in music discussion as well?

(not making this a "omg wrong forum" reply, just thinking you'd more opinions there than here)

in any case, good luck man!


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jul-29-2010 02:23:

goodluck


Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-29-2010 03:12:

i'm pretty confident on this one, as long as i don't draw a bad timeslot, there is maybe one or 2 djs on the bill that i'm concerned about

really, it's the mashup i want to do... perhaps i should consult the production forum


Posted by n3lly on Jul-29-2010 16:35:

I'll copy this thread over for you mate so both threads are updated with content from both forums


Posted by woscar on Jul-29-2010 17:45:

Re: So I entered in a local DJ competition....

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
make my set stand out


quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
i'll be playing clubby electro stuff, 132-135 bpm range


Does not compute


Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-30-2010 01:46:

Re: Re: So I entered in a local DJ competition....

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Does not compute


if i want gigs, gotta play what the crowds want, which unfortunately means dirty electro in calgary, and that really sucks


Posted by knowhope on Jul-30-2010 16:08:

Then your set will not stand out. There are tons of DJs playing top 40 music and dirty electro. It's the new "IN". Good luck either way.


Posted by MSZ on Jul-30-2010 16:54:

15 minutes? god damn. i dont know you might want to try a tenminmix type thing.


Posted by epicaricacy on Jul-30-2010 17:11:

i would just cue each track past 3 minutes and start slamming shit in left and right like i was girl talk except actually mixing.


Posted by jdat on Jul-30-2010 20:14:

well do what a regular mix entails, a sonic journey but shorter with all it's variations that come with it.

Make sure to build expectation throughout the mix, many surprises around the corner.

Vary the speeds at which you are playing taking the crowd though ups and downs, peaks and valleys.
The mix cannot be one straight line in this kind of context.



Know your cue points, mix ins and outs.
Be prepared to improvise if the crowd reaction doesn't pick up. I don't believe you should change genres or anything as it's vital for you to stay true to what you are doing, but be ready for less than positive results
Ly comment does not stem from what genre you may be playing but from the fact that many djs regardless of genres in this context(and sometimes while playing out) really don't play the crowd as much as they should...but this subject has been covered many times before .


Posted by Adam420 on Jul-31-2010 16:57:

Play dubstep, that way you'll be able to fit like 6 songs in your mix


Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-31-2010 21:46:

the promotion company is looking for electro and nu-disko, so i'm going to give them what they want, as for cue points, i'm in the process of picking and editing my tracks so they're shorter, i plan on 5 tracks in 15 mins plus my produced intro and outro, i plan on recording it if you guys want to check it out after


Posted by Adam420 on Jul-31-2010 21:55:

I'd check it out. But yeas sounds like edits are the way to go if you really wanna impress. Just edit some tracks down to contain only a 2-3 minute long mid-section and the rest just intro and outro beats, that way you can just go through like 5-6 tracks in the span of those 15 minutes. I definitely think acapellas would be good too, as well as a good intro and outro.


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-01-2010 00:43:

my setlist

(don't judge me, i'm looking to win) these tracks are all edited down to 3 mins versions, sans breakdowns and filler

alex gaudino - i'm in love (robbie rivera club remix)
hiroki esashika - kazkane (disco of doom remix)
chris shweizer - zha (original mix)
chriss source - hugs n kisses (tony morales dj full vocal)
blackstreet - no diggity (uk beat cartel's no dignity remix)


Posted by n3lly on Aug-01-2010 10:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
a sonic journey but shorter with all it's variations that come with it.

Make sure to build expectation throughout the mix, many surprises around the corner.

Vary the speeds at which you are playing taking the crowd though ups and downs, peaks and valleys.



lol

some more lol

and little sprinkle of L O L...

It's 15min long mate.

Tony, just band it out. Make sure you throw in an edit or two as you are doing. And that your mixing is tight. Other than that, include all your previous experience etc on your CV that you send them. Remember half the clubs these days don't care if you're the best bedroom dj, they want tried and tested methods of getting punters into their clubs to dance and have a good time. If you've got a good track record of providing this you're half way there.

just my 2c, 2p,


Posted by Sadface on Aug-03-2010 18:10:

I dunno, you might want one good breakdown in there towards the end cause people love that shit. Just make sure the payoff is SUPER good.


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-03-2010 21:38:

i almost won, i got a shitty time slot, i'm in the process of tracking down the recording, someone had an ikey and recorded the whole night


Posted by ChrstnMchl on Aug-04-2010 12:40:

LOL

Wow, I remember when a DJ contest meant a DJ had to come in and mix with his records and was judged on those mixes and if he could add some turntablism into it all the better.

If you are going to pre-edit your set so it all goes together why not just make it one 15 minute track and just go up there and press play.


Exactly what part of this contest had anything to do with DJing? Sounds more like an edit/ remix contest to me.


Posted by n3lly on Aug-04-2010 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ChrstnMchl
LOL

Wow, I remember when a DJ contest meant a DJ had to come in and mix with his records and was judged on those mixes and if he could add some turntablism into it all the better.

If you are going to pre-edit your set so it all goes together why not just make it one 15 minute track and just go up there and press play.


Exactly what part of this contest had anything to do with DJing? Sounds more like an edit/ remix contest to me.


Ugh.. dipshiticus maximus.

You edit tracks so they stand out. Think of it as a very crude form of production. You then mix that 'edited' track into another track.

Wow, look at that, song A was mixed into Song B. Just like the old days and judgement can still be passed.

Mix 5 songs into each other and there'll just be another 10 of you to come. Throw some edits of tracks together and you'll give them something different


Posted by ChrstnMchl on Aug-05-2010 14:45:

Everyone should know by now I am a vinylsaur. I'm sorry, I just don't put pre-edited tracks on point with a DJ hitting his cue points on records on the fly and making it work. I use to love *watching* a DJ work his craft.


Thats not to say that talent isn't involved - I just don't see it as a DJ contest. Its a remix/ edit contest. Certainly, the bar would have to be higher because you can do sooooo much of it before the actual show. There would be no excuse for miscues or simply not having a flawless set. Where is the difficulty in mixing if you have everything pre-taylored to work together?


Posted by elektrikal on Aug-06-2010 02:48:

mash up garbage vs unkle - stupid girl (or something) and tiefschwarz - warning siren (anthony rother)


Posted by recoil on Aug-06-2010 05:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
i almost won


so who got the slot?
young age & good looks? perhaps a sibling of the door bitch?


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-06-2010 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Ugh.. dipshiticus maximus.

You edit tracks so they stand out. Think of it as a very crude form of production. You then mix that 'edited' track into another track.

Wow, look at that, song A was mixed into Song B. Just like the old days and judgement can still be passed.

Mix 5 songs into each other and there'll just be another 10 of you to come. Throw some edits of tracks together and you'll give them something different

Nah, turn up with an extra 2 CDJs and do your edits live


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-06-2010 06:35:

quote:
Originally posted by ChrstnMchl
Thats not to say that talent isn't involved - I just don't see it as a DJ contest. Its a remix/ edit contest. Certainly, the bar would have to be higher because you can do sooooo much of it before the actual show. There would be no excuse for miscues or simply not having a flawless set. Where is the difficulty in mixing if you have everything pre-taylored to work together?

You see normally I'd bring out my usual line about "why make life hard for yourself?", with the comparison with getting the computer to beatmatch for you and why if that technology had existed in the 70s we'd think anyone who tried to beatmatch live was insane...

But this IS a DJ competition and it's a very different concept from a club set.

In a club you're there to give the crowd a good time - they don't want to hear you trainwrecking, they don't want to hear key clashes, they want it to sound as good as possible. Most of them wouldn't really care if you played a pre-planned set full of pre-made edits, although the main reason for not doing that is you lose the ability to react to the crowd.

In a DJ competition you're there to show off to the judges (and possibly impress some of the crowd). IMO there are 3 aspects to DJing: finding good tunes, technical skill and reading the crowd... all 3 of these should come across in a DJ competition, although I appreciate a lot of DJ comps make it pretty hard to demonstrate the last one.


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