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An observation about all the longtime posters on here

When will you guys realize that people don't really care about your "track X sucks, this is better" type comments?

The same people parade into every thread and whine about ANY track that the OP posted and then post something that they think is better, based on their subjective opinion.

And you guys have been doing this for years too. It's like you have nothing better to do than to whine in every thread you post in. And then when people snap back you feel the need to turn everything into a flame war.

I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to one-up each other on who listens to the "purest" and "best" EDM (again, all based on personal opinions that you cannot support with facts).

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Originally posted by osterzone

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Originally posted by osterzone When will you guys realize that people don't really care about your "track X sucks, this is better" type comments? The same people parade into every thread and whine about ANY track that the OP posted and then post something that they think is better, based on their subjective opinion. And you guys have been doing this for years too. It's like you have nothing better to do than to whine in every thread you post in. And then when people snap back you feel the need to turn everything into a flame war. I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to one-up each other on who listens to the "purest" and "best" EDM (again, all based on personal opinions that you cannot support with facts).

You do realise your constant whining about this issue (in the wrong forum too, I might add) is far, far more annoying that the issue you've fabricated in your head might be.

Get off your soapbox, you're no better.

I agree.


Long time poster. First time apologist.

I was going to post a billion threads just like this one to prove a point, but then stumbled upon this:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=247033

Some fun stuff in there, I almost miss Ory

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Originally posted by osterzone When will you guys realize that people don't really care about your "track X sucks, this is better" type comments? The same people parade into every thread and whine about ANY track that the OP posted and then post something that they think is better, based on their subjective opinion. And you guys have been doing this for years too. It's like you have nothing better to do than to whine in every thread you post in. And then when people snap back you feel the need to turn everything into a flame war. I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to one-up each other on who listens to the "purest" and "best" EDM (again, all based on personal opinions that you cannot support with facts).

I agree, too many unicorn jokes, prejudged tracks and total bias against certain artists.

Ah yes, the classic hissyfit over having your tastes in music insulted. Give it another 5 years, and you'll be posting detailed anecdotes about your "crackhead adventures", listening to plodding house music and look down your nose at people who like trance, just like everyone else. Then this thread will be an amusing point of reference.

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Originally posted by osterzone When will you guys realize that people don't really care about your "track X sucks, this is better" type comments?

But some people do care: those who can put aside their feeling of "being offended" and actually consider what the other person has to say, and listen to the music they suggest. That some people habitually throw around insults and build up superiority complexes about music might make them jerks, but even jerks can like music that is worth a listen.

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Originally posted by osterzone When will you guys realize that people don't really care about your "track X sucks, this is better" type comments? The same people parade into every thread and whine about ANY track that the OP posted and then post something that they think is better, based on their subjective opinion. And you guys have been doing this for years too. It's like you have nothing better to do than to whine in every thread you post in. And then when people snap back you feel the need to turn everything into a flame war. I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to one-up each other on who listens to the "purest" and "best" EDM (again, all based on personal opinions that you cannot support with facts).

And do you have any idea of how many threads like this have been made since we've been here? u guys ur so negative lol

I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to bitch all the fucking time about people being too negative about music.

your track sucks

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Originally posted by osterzone I like this site, but I feel like this music discussion forum could be so much better if some of you put your egos aside and just talked about fucking music instead of trying to one-up each other on who listens to the "purest" and "best" EDM (again, all based on personal opinions that you cannot support with facts).

But that is what helps make this site so good. People post music they think is better, which leads to others posting similar music which helps peoples tastes grow. The original poster is exposed to new sounds, and if they like what they hear they to look for 'better' music.

I'll give a personal example. A few months ago there was a thread for disco or something. Someone meantioned the funk thread, I had a look there and found a Larry Heard set, which lead me to Herbie Hancock song which lead me to an old Jazz thread which lead to Miles Davis/Coltrane.

I've only been on this forum for 3 years yet I cant remember when someone disrepected my opinion on music.

But the whole concept of "growing your tastes" is based completely on opinion.

I see many of the longtime posters in this thread throwing around red herrings and beating the bush to avoid responding to this statement: no one cares that you think track X sucks and track Y is better.

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Originally posted by osterzone But the whole concept of "growing your tastes" is based completely on opinion.

If it's purely based on opinion, why do we see the same pattern happen over and over again with people?

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I see many of the longtime posters in this thread throwing around red herrings and beating the bush to avoid responding to this statement: no one cares that you think track X sucks and track Y is better.

Clearly you do, you wouldn't even had bothered to make a thread like this if someone hadn't struck a nerve. You take the internet a bit too seriously for your own good.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery If it's purely based on opinion, why do we see the same pattern happen over and over again with people? Clearly you do, you wouldn't even had bothered to make a thread like this if someone hadn't struck a nerve. You take the internet a bit too seriously for your own good.

Just because I made this thread doesn't mean I all of the sudden take this subject seriously.

How else could I make an observation on here without posting?

if its purely based on opinion then why even have a discussion forum

I agree. There are some that are complete pricks with their responses and it's obvious they're hating life (or something) -- however, if you put a muzzle on them then you're accused of censorship and/or 'masking' the truth.

It's a slippery slope... and one that has always been a challenge with moderating posts on TA. I don't expect it to all be a group hug full of unicorns and candy canes but the time some of you spend on writing a completely negative(almost useless) reply is baffling.

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Originally posted by Subtle I agree, too many unicorn jokes

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Originally posted by Swamper I don't expect it to all be a group hug full of unicorns and candy canes

I blame Swamper.

Nobody cares what you have to say about anything, and yet you still post. Now apply the same reasoning to everyone else and you're done.

There's a difference between someone disagreeing with someone's taste in music, and discussing what they do or don't like about a track/genre/whatever, and someone who posts "this song is terrible." One is actually participating in a discussion, the other is trying (and failing) to prove that they have better taste in music than someone else.

It's not so much that "nobody cares if you like x and not y," as much as it is "you liking x and not y, does not mean that x is good music and y is bad music."


Regardless, people aren't going to stop trolling legitimate music discussions because some people feel the need to believe that their taste is the only good taste.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 There's a difference between someone disagreeing with someone's taste in music, and discussing what they do or don't like about a track/genre/whatever, and someone who posts "this song is terrible." One is actually participating in a discussion, the other is trying (and failing) to prove that they have better taste in music than someone else. It's not so much that "nobody cares if you like x and not y," as much as it is "you liking x and not y, does not mean that x is good music and y is bad music." Regardless, people aren't going to stop trolling legitimate music discussions because some people feel the need to believe that their taste is the only good taste.

But the majority are the "this song is terrible" type.

It doesn't matter what track/genre you post about, you're going to get 2-3 trolls per thread going "this is so bad " or "this DJ is a joke now compared to what he used to be".

Then the OP won't respond to them, and not give them attention. But they keep doing it in every thread anyway.

Why the fuck do they keep wasting their time? It doesn't benefit either side.

It probably makes them feel a little better about themselves to try and believe that they are the almighty judge and ruler of musical taste.

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Originally posted by osterzone Just because I made this thread doesn't mean I all of the sudden take this subject seriously. How else could I make an observation on here without posting?

One can make observations without posting anything at all. It's not that I even disagree with you but do you honestly think you're the first one to make this observation?

Whining isn't going to change anything - in fact, I'd say it usually just makes things worse with the backlash of feedback. If you're not a part of the solution, you're a part of the problem.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery One can make observations without posting anything at all. It's not that I even disagree with you but do you honestly think you're the first one to make this observation? Whining isn't going to change anything - in fact, I'd say it usually just makes things worse with the backlash of feedback. If you're not a part of the solution, you're a part of the problem.

You have to acknowledge a problem before you can fix it.

Also I used to troll music discussion threads, then I realized how stupid it was and I stopped doing it.

Is it just me, or is this car sexy as hell? Has anyone ever driven one, because that car (aside from the Hyundai insignia) looks about $30,000 more than it's worth.

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Originally posted by osterzone You have to acknowledge a problem before you can fix it.

Is it really a problem? So say someone posts a track, and someone says "that's not good, check this out". So the OP checks out the track and hey, its a pretty cool track. Sure, the music they like got bashed but in the process they learned about more music.

If you want to expand your musical tastes without ever encountering the slightest bit of negativity, then you need to stop dreaming and be realistic.

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