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Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-08-2010 16:13:

Eye Weekly: The beer-tent blues

The beer-tent blues
http://www.eyeweekly.com/music/features/article/98529

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And with the current (Ontario) concert market suffering noticeably this summer, you have to wonder if promoters might already be eager to find new ways to draw in audiences. It�s no secret that Toronto festivals have failed to emulate the European model � hell, after the downsizing of last year�s Virgin Fest, we don�t have any proper multi-day outdoor music festivals at all this summer.

Seeing the immense success and relatively unproblematic execution of Osheaga (Montreal) first-hand, it�s hard not to develop a case of festival envy. And while Farkas doesn�t think the open licence contributes to the success of Osheaga per se, he does admit that it�s a huge draw for out-of-towners from Ontario. On the other hand, and possibly sharing in my envious sentiments, Smid thinks the alcohol situation is integral.

�I think it�s part of the puzzle,� he says. �And I think this is the biggest thing to overcome for festivals to have value to the overall marketplace. Right now, festivals are more of a niche thing; mainstream people don�t go to festivals, whereas in Europe and other places they do. Even if you had a commercial artist headlining a festival in Toronto, you�d have people who would rather wait two years to see them at the ACC. That�s the biggest detriment to making them work financially. [Otherwise] I think what you�re going to get is a B-level festival in an A-level market.�

interesting article..

Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-08-2010 20:40:

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Originally posted by dEsidEL

The beer-tent blues
http://www.eyeweekly.com/music/features/article/98529

interesting article..

no doubt that our alcohol laws hurt a lot of tourism and business. But what do they care in ontario? The condo dwellers rule here and thats all that counts sadly.

The nanny state that so many people here demand is hard at work!

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-08-2010 21:33:

I saw all of that first hand at V fest 2 years ago, such a pain in the ass.

That's why nobody goes to more of these festivals here.

Posted by Ravist on Aug-09-2010 04:12:

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Originally posted by dEsidEL

mainstream people don�t go to festivals, whereas in Europe and other places they do. Even if you had a commercial artist headlining a festival in Toronto, you�d have people who would rather wait two years to see them at the ACC.

This quote right here proves how Ontarions DO NOT know how to party compared to Europeans and the rest of the world. They would rather party somewhere they know and are comfortable with. The others like the idea of going somewhere different or outdoors. If you want to seriously party, don't do it in Canada! lol

Posted by Ravist on Aug-09-2010 04:32:

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This quote right here proves how Ontarions DO NOT know how to party compared to Europeans and the rest of the world. They would rather party somewhere they know and are comfortable with. The others like the idea of going somewhere different or outdoors. If you want to seriously party, don't do it in Canada! lol

EDIT: after reading the article I found out the culprit for this problem is AGCO and their lack of understanding of how to manage a bar.

Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-09-2010 04:57:

It's the liquor CONTROL board of ontario. It's what they do best.

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-09-2010 16:37:

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Originally posted by Ravist
EDIT: after reading the article I found out the culprit for this problem is AGCO and their lack of understanding of how to manage a bar.

More so this than the people here.

People here go to any party available only b/c there is no other option...but there is only so much they can take when it comes to security BS, being segregated into specific areas etc before people stop going. Hence the attendance records for V fest last year (or the year before...)

Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Aug-09-2010 18:03:

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Originally posted by Ravist
This quote right here proves how Ontarions DO NOT know how to party compared to Europeans and the rest of the world. They would rather party somewhere they know and are comfortable with. The others like the idea of going somewhere different or outdoors. If you want to seriously party, don't do it in Canada! lol

I disagree with that statement! (not your statement, the quote you posted). lol I'd much rather go to a festival with a commercial headliner than going to see them at a concert hall.

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-10-2010 16:23:

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
I disagree with that statement! (not your statement, the quote you posted). lol I'd much rather go to a festival with a commercial headliner than going to see them at a concert hall.

So would I.

I'd say what keeps people annoyed a lot of the time is the segregation part (says in the article) and also how it ends so early.

I mean the Toronto Islands rock, why not have something PROPER there?

Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-10-2010 18:43:

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Originally posted by Endlesswave
So would I.

I'd say what keeps people annoyed a lot of the time is the segregation part (says in the article) and also how it ends so early.

I mean the Toronto Islands rock, why not have something PROPER there?

Whiney nimby islanders thats why

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-10-2010 19:13:

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Whiney nimby islanders thats why

Amend their 'lease'.

I'm thinking if documents like that can be amended why not?

Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-10-2010 19:19:

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Originally posted by Endlesswave
Amend their 'lease'.

I'm thinking if documents like that can be amended why not?

until we get fresh thinking politicians in office who arent driven by a condo agenda, we arent going to see much happen in toronto. Unless it involves a big concrete box.

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-10-2010 19:57:

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until we get fresh thinking politicians in office who arent driven by a condo agenda, we arent going to see much happen in toronto. Unless it involves a big concrete box.

Yeah, it's also why waterfront redevelopment is STILL at a standstill. (I think) Bleh.

Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-10-2010 20:03:

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Yeah, it's also why waterfront redevelopment is STILL at a standstill. (I think) Bleh.

Its not..

its all condo condo condo being put in now in the east portlands. Oh and George brown college. Thats about it!

construction has already started.

What do u think sugar beach is for? Perfect sanitized condo beach!

Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-10-2010 20:41:

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Originally posted by Jayx1
Its not..

its all condo condo condo being put in now in the east portlands. Oh and George brown college. Thats about it!

construction has already started.

What do u think sugar beach is for? Perfect sanitized condo beach!

Ah right:

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/...0/09/c8969.html