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Posted by obs on Jul-25-2002 01:20:

pvd LP2002 essential mix

this has been discussed before and the thread was closed but:

first off, i'm not complaining or trying to flame Technaut ... i'm merely presenting facts.

i have download the mp3 ... listened to the mp3.
yes, winamp reports it as being stereo.
however, winamp stereo just means that there is a L and an R channel.
the file is DUAL-MONO.

want proof?
decode the mp3 to wave.
compare the L and the R waveform.
both are the exact same.

conclusion: MONO fits better than stereo would.

some of you should apologise to LESHIY.



sorry, tried to attach a small .gif showing the waveform here but it didn't work.


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-26-2002 06:50:

Thanx dood but certainly nobody will not apologize, first sent me "far away", now have shut up mouthes and have crept away to their corners. So it was, it is and it will be so.
The theory of crowd.


Posted by arturob on Jul-26-2002 07:26:

hrhrhr!


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-26-2002 07:39:

Whuz up Foxxy ?

Relax man.


Posted by arturob on Jul-26-2002 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Leshiy
Whuz up Foxxy ?

Relax man.


hehehe.. I`m chillin'

kak dela?


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-26-2002 07:46:

S kakix por ty pishesh po russki ?


Posted by arturob on Jul-26-2002 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Leshiy
S kakix por ty pishesh po russki ?


hehe no no! I just know to say that. I was being taught by a friend of mine but it's so hard!

many greetings,

f0x


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-26-2002 08:08:

Practice Foxy practice


Posted by obs on Jul-26-2002 11:12:

Thanx dood but certainly nobody will not apologize


yeah, no problem. hate seeing people who are correct getting shit on.

to be honest, your original post *did* have a bit of a flame feeling to it BUT it is pretty obvious that you don't have perfect english so maybe you did not mean it exactly as how you wrote.


Posted by Technaut on Jul-26-2002 19:51:

Re: pvd LP2002 essential mix

quote:
Originally posted by obs
this has been discussed before and the thread was closed but:

first off, i'm not complaining or trying to flame Technaut ... i'm merely presenting facts.

i have download the mp3 ... listened to the mp3.
yes, winamp reports it as being stereo.
however, winamp stereo just means that there is a L and an R channel.
the file is DUAL-MONO.

want proof?
decode the mp3 to wave.
compare the L and the R waveform.
both are the exact same.

conclusion: MONO fits better than stereo would.

some of you should apologise to LESHIY.



sorry, tried to attach a small .gif showing the waveform here but it didn't work.


sounds like a fair enuff point man

However can I state that my digital stereo was set to stereo and my recording software was set to stereo. So I dont know what has went wrong. If someone would like to point out what i did wrong then go ahead

and I'm not apologising to him cos he flamed my ass

greetz
Technaut


Posted by torontotrance on Jul-26-2002 20:08:

Angry

Bullshit....i'm not apologize to leshiy.....he started the war and he lost it. He flamed many and i stuck up for ppl like technaut....ppl in this world are just greedy fucking leechers that want everything on a fast server, 192kbps and stereo.


Posted by JMF [TrAcId] on Jul-26-2002 22:20:

Laugh my ass off at this thread


Posted by Technaut on Jul-27-2002 13:38:

Re: pvd LP2002 essential mix

quote:
Originally posted by obs
want proof?
decode the mp3 to wave.
compare the L and the R waveform.
both are the exact same.


Hello,

If both are exaclty the same then please explain when I load the MP3 into Cool Edit Pro the bars at the bottum showing left and right channels bounce at different times, which would mean both channels are differrent?

greetz
Technaut


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-29-2002 06:17:

ah get a life..

you got to use your ears, but not Cool Edits & some other stuff..
Conclusion has been made.. If everybody means himself right then ok, i`ll ask Obs to delete this thread.


Posted by obs on Jul-30-2002 09:06:

If both are exaclty the same then please explain when I load the MP3 into Cool Edit Pro the bars at the bottum showing left and right channels bounce at different times, which would mean both channels are differrent?


don't know ... like i said before, decode it to wave and compare waveforms. that is the best way to tell. mp3 are not considered to be "reference".

does it really sound stereo to your ears? listen with headphones.


Posted by escee on Jul-30-2002 10:13:

i decoded this the other to burn it to a cd. The channels ARE DIFFERENT meaning, its not mono. The problem is that around the 60th minute or so until somewhere near the end, RADIO ONE, fucked up the broadcast and it heavily favours the left channel (or right, im not sure since it was a week ago). The left channel is much stronger than the right channel (look at the wav in soundforge or cool edit and notice how 'weak' the other channel looks) so it maybe sounds like its mono.

Its Stereo, for sure.
Its Radio 1's Fuckup, not technauts.

This problem is technauts release, and 1reals release, further confirming it.

I think everyone should thank technaut for providing us with this awesome mix, and even if it was in 128k mono, then stop bitching unless you can do better.


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-30-2002 11:09:

Dude, think before you post.

The set you are talking about is another one.
I told about it in this thread.


Posted by phyrest0rm on Jul-30-2002 13:15:

Seriously... some people need to find something better to do with their time....

If you're going to bitch and moan about how a set was ripped, go fuckin rip it yourself. Technaut is doing everyone a favor, and this is the first time I can think that anything has gone wrong w/ a shared rip of his.

When I miss a set, I rely on people like him, because they rip it and share it.

My hat off to you Tech,
everyone who wants to bitch at him.... eat a dick


Posted by Technaut on Jul-30-2002 16:59:



not this old chesnut again...

obs and Leshiy, next time dont DL any oif my rips then u wont have any problems, ok?

the rest of you..hope you liked the set as I sure did

greetz
Technaut


Posted by xxl on Jul-30-2002 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by escee

Its Stereo, for sure.
Its Radio 1's Fuckup, not technauts.

This problem is technauts release, and 1reals release, further confirming it.

I think everyone should thank technaut for providing us with this awesome mix, and even if it was in 128k mono, then stop bitching unless you can do better.


yeah me thx techie for making it happen.. f*ck em leecher...........


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-31-2002 07:02:

Leecher yourself , moron.

Obs please delete this thread cuz we are attracting more and more idiots


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-31-2002 07:09:

quote:
ppl in this world are just greedy fucking leechers that want everything on a fast server, 192kbps and stereo.


Same as you, Torontotrance.


Posted by arturob on Jul-31-2002 07:12:

OK. I will be clear.

for the SAKE of all of us, stop this flame. Im the worst PvD head here and you didn`t read complaint even if i had both rips!

I will allow 1 or 2 more post before I give an end to this thread.

Many Greetings,

f0x


Posted by Leshiy on Jul-31-2002 07:21:

Yeah Foxy, close this thread, i`m tired of all this.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Jul-31-2002 07:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
OK. I will be clear.

for the SAKE of all of us, stop this flame. Im the worst PvD head here and you didn`t read complaint even if i had both rips!

I will allow 1 or 2 more post before I give an end to this thread.

Many Greetings,

f0x


you tell 'em!!


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