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Posted by limin_li on Aug-16-2010 15:03:

Traktor S4 Controller is finally here! Well not yet.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#...tor-kontrol-s4/


Discuss!


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-16-2010 15:40:

isn't that one dubfire was using in those vids before


Posted by Max Thomson on Aug-16-2010 16:44:

looks pretty cool


Posted by Rebel Brown on Aug-17-2010 09:23:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
isn't that one dubfire was using in those vids before


I think so, yeah.

DJ Tech Tools have done a write-up of it here.


Posted by n3lly on Aug-17-2010 17:10:

I'm well surprised at the lack of talk about it on here.

I like the idea behind it. But i'm like a pig in shit with my DVS system still. I enjoy the fact that i can rock up and play on vinyl if they have turntables or swap over to cd timecode if they don't.

I like my mbp, i like my 92.

I'm happy.

I do however want to see the new layout make it's way across to TSP. Loving the new highlights for loops/samples/green on white waveforms

my 2c


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-17-2010 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
I'm well surprised at the lack of talk about it on here.

I like the idea behind it. But i'm like a pig in shit with my DVS system still. I enjoy the fact that i can rock up and play on vinyl if they have turntables or swap over to cd timecode if they don't.

I like my mbp, i like my 92.

I'm happy.

I do however want to see the new layout make it's way across to TSP. Loving the new highlights for loops/samples/green on white waveforms

my 2c


+1. I mate came over and we mixed on my CDJ's and tech MK5G's. Though I love my 800's, the TT's were so much fun to mix on and really brought out the best in us. And I love having a beautiful analogue mixer in font of me.

The only thing that could possibly rock even more is if Serato brought out a new hardware box that was an interface with a little screen and you could plug USB drives straight in to it. So you could literally turn up with the serato box and a USB drive.


Posted by n3lly on Aug-17-2010 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Serato


Child Please!


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-17-2010 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Child Please!



OH NO! You're not one of those farmers are you


Posted by n3lly on Aug-17-2010 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
OH NO! You're not one of those farmers are you






Watch that series if you haven't seen it yet by the way.
Cincinnati Bengals - Hard Knocks is what it's called. Great little pre season documentary.


Posted by chewy dragee on Aug-18-2010 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
I'm well surprised at the lack of talk about it on here.

I like the idea behind it. But i'm like a pig in shit with my DVS system still. I enjoy the fact that i can rock up and play on vinyl if they have turntables or swap over to cd timecode if they don't.

I like my mbp, i like my 92.

I'm happy.

I do however want to see the new layout make it's way across to TSP. Loving the new highlights for loops/samples/green on white waveforms

my 2c


If you use traktor scratch as DVS and you want to be really really REAAAALLLLLYYY happy, you should get a maschine or at least 1 x Kontrol X1.

As for the Kontrol S4.
I thinks it's great! Although not having 8 cue buttons / deck is totally crap. I wonder why they only have 4.
Almost all the tracks I have that are not trance use all 8 cue buttons.

THe faders seem very short also.


Posted by n3lly on Aug-18-2010 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by chewy dragee
If you use traktor scratch as DVS and you want to be really really REAAAALLLLLYYY happy, you should get a maschine or at least 1 x Kontrol X1.

As for the Kontrol S4.
I thinks it's great! Although not having 8 cue buttons / deck is totally crap. I wonder why they only have 4.
Almost all the tracks I have that are not trance use all 8 cue buttons.

THe faders seem very short also.


I own Maschine, and have a Faderfox DX2. I've been dabbling with the idea of getting an X1, but i like the small footprint of the DX2.

Maschine on the other hand is wrecking my head. Thinking of selling it actually.

I'm sure the Shift function will allow you to use the 4 cue buttons as 5-8 (poor english).
But i know what you mean. It would be nice to have them all there.

Faders are too short just like on the 800.


Posted by chewy dragee on Aug-18-2010 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
I own Maschine, and have a Faderfox DX2. I've been dabbling with the idea of getting an X1, but i like the small footprint of the DX2.

Maschine on the other hand is wrecking my head. Thinking of selling it actually.

I'm sure the Shift function will allow you to use the 4 cue buttons as 5-8 (poor english).
But i know what you mean. It would be nice to have them all there.

Faders are too short just like on the 800.


Not using maschine for cue buttons?

I don't use the maschine software all that much, but for traktor it is by far the best for the cues.

The X1s buttons are too small, and in the heat of the moment you can press the wrong button and totally screw it up (Just like chicks).

The X1s though is brillaint for the FX.
especially if you have 4 decks going. (Which isn't that often)

I have an 800, but this things faders look even shorter.

I would love to try one of these out.

Gear addict are me.


Posted by skip on Aug-18-2010 19:10:

Looks like a "glorified" Hercules DJ mix console to me�


Posted by djsaekone on Aug-20-2010 20:36:

dayum! i want one...might sell my 92 for one..........


Posted by SPACEMASTERS on Aug-20-2010 22:01:

I think it is a bit to much, and also $1000
This is for people like maybe dubfire, liebing, and people like hawtin.
I dont think many people would like to trade a mixer for for that.

I like and was excited about the X1, not so excited about this one.


Posted by prashant on Aug-21-2010 14:35:

When I saw the features and the flight box I said WOW. Everything for $1000 but suddenly I read flight case costs extra by $185.

Honestly its a great piece of hardware and I would go for it when I save some more money and by the time I actually will get enough money for this kit, the price will drop somewhat.


Posted by tvmann on Nov-02-2010 23:47:

Traktor S4 now available!


Posted by Simon_N on Nov-03-2010 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
Looks like a "glorified" Hercules DJ mix console to me�



Yeah in the same way a CDJ 2000 is a glorified Numark CD deck.

Seriously thinking about getting one of these when i get the funds together.


Posted by DJ Eddie Lee on Nov-04-2010 21:33:

Pre-ordered one of these from PSSL.com which is a pretty reputable online DJ store. Let's just say that their website now says on backorder until Nov. 15. I also called guitar center here in NYC and the were also sold out. Looks like the Traktor geeks out there got their hands on it first!


Posted by Kris G on Nov-05-2010 07:51:

Glorified Hercules? Maybe because you don't know sh*t. Watch some of the videos, this is no budget MIDI controller for Traktor


Posted by skip on Nov-05-2010 12:53:

Well, to me it looks like shit with loads of LEDs thrown in there. Everything integrated to a small package. How good are NI at making mixers? Have they made mixers before? Even though Traktor is nice and the Audio 8 DJ ain't too bad either, I wouldn't trust NI to make a good mixer.

And it has integrated the controllers on the side. For me that doesn't really make sense, unless you want to have some cheap "DJ in a box" bullshit like the Hercules console. I really see no need for this product. Some might, but I certainly don't. Some people see the need for the Hercules DJ console too.

If this would be more like the Xone:4D but made to work more fluently with Traktor I might be more impressed, but now I really am not.

I see this as "cheap" solution for people who cannot afford a proper mixer and TTs/CDJs/controllers. If you think otherwise or don't have enough money to buy proper gear instead of some "DJ in a box" set, you're free to disagree. But I see no reason to get so worked up over my views/comments.


Posted by progress on Nov-05-2010 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
Well, to me it looks like shit with loads of LEDs thrown in there. Everything integrated to a small package. How good are NI at making mixers? Have they made mixers before? Even though Traktor is nice and the Audio 8 DJ ain't too bad either, I wouldn't trust NI to make a good mixer.

And it has integrated the controllers on the side. For me that doesn't really make sense, unless you want to have some cheap "DJ in a box" bullshit like the Hercules console. I really see no need for this product. Some might, but I certainly don't. Some people see the need for the Hercules DJ console too.

If this would be more like the Xone:4D but made to work more fluently with Traktor I might be more impressed, but now I really am not.

I see this as "cheap" solution for people who cannot afford a proper mixer and TTs/CDJs/controllers. If you think otherwise or don't have enough money to buy proper gear instead of some "DJ in a box" set, you're free to disagree. But I see no reason to get so worked up over my views/comments.


This might answer your question as to weather or not the soundcard is worthy.....the people at Space didn't seem to notice a difference....


Posted by skip on Nov-05-2010 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by progress
This might answer your question as to weather or not the soundcard is worthy.....the people at Space didn't seem to notice a difference....



I wasn't doubting the sound card portion of it�


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-05-2010 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by progress
This might answer your question as to weather or not the soundcard is worthy.....the people at Space didn't seem to notice a difference....



Not really valid - I was quite unimpressed by the sound system at space. The back (main room) is actually quite terrible. Whcih is really weird to me as I absolutely love funktion 1 systems. The terrace is OK, but I've heard at least half a dozen major club systems that I would rate higher.


Posted by Simon_N on Nov-05-2010 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Not really valid - I was quite unimpressed by the sound system at space. The back (main room) is actually quite terrible. Whcih is really weird to me as I absolutely love funktion 1 systems. The terrace is OK, but I've heard at least half a dozen major club systems that I would rate higher.


What! The sound system in space was incredible when i went there last year.


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