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Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 02:15:

Exclamation best beatmatching software out there?

Hi everyone,

A friend gave me some cds with some songs and dont DJ or do much music stuff, but I told him Id help him the best way I could by putting together his songs on a cd. I heard theres software out there like sound forge, djmixer, etc that pretty much helps you put music together or edit it.

The question I have is all I want to do is dump the tracks into a software, set the beats per minute to what I want each track to match at, at the most accurate bpm set. I tried one freeware softawre but it didnt work right. It would save the bpm's for each track off balance so it still sounded off, plus the loudness for each track was either load on one track, and quiet on another. Is that what they call tempo??? So mainly Im looking for a bpm match and save setup softare and an auto sound volume setter or something where I can set the volume to each track to match the same so one track doesnt sound loader than the other, etc, and save the tracks to the bpm's I set it as, so when I put her tracks together, it will make my job a lot easier, rather than the cd sounding like shoes in a dryer if you get my drift. I suppose this is the cheating way on mixing tracks, but again, I dont DJ or mess with music like you all do, so Im experimenting and doing this to help out a chick. lol

Any help would be great. I have sound forge i think on one of my computers but I see that its an advanced piece of software mainly to edit music, but I dont know if its the type that will set bpm's for each track and save it like that. *shrugs*


Posted by owien on Aug-17-2010 02:58:

soundforge is for editing and wont help you at this stage you need to find dj mixing software and practice first






Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-17-2010 05:41:

i started out with atomixmp3...perhaps that might be useful in understanding the basis of beatmatching..


Posted by Woony on Aug-17-2010 16:24:

Traktor is really the easiest software around, it can even do the beatmatching for you, the only thing you need to do is choose the tracks and move the crossfader to do a transition.


Posted by woscar on Aug-17-2010 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Woonyxoxo
Traktor is really the easiest software around, it can even do the beatmatching for you, the only thing you need to do is choose the tracks and move the crossfader to do a transition.


No, it's not.


Posted by epicaricacy on Aug-17-2010 16:28:

lol at using the crossfader


Posted by Woony on Aug-17-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
No, it's not.


I mean for DJing at a very basic level. And yeah you probably need to prelisten and press play for the next track, but that's not hard either if you do it at a basic level.


Posted by woscar on Aug-17-2010 18:14:

DJ'ing with Traktor is exactly the same as DJ'ing with turntables or CDJs, minus the beatmatching (and plus some other bonuses like looping, etc.). You still have to cue, EQ, level, phrase, etc, etc, etc.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-17-2010 19:12:

You don't really have to do any of that but then you'll end up sounding like Oakenfold.


Posted by epicaricacy on Aug-17-2010 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
DJ'ing with Traktor is exactly the same as DJ'ing with turntables or CDJs, minus the beatmatching (and plus some other bonuses like looping, etc.). You still have to cue, EQ, level, phrase, etc, etc, etc.


quit trying to pretend you know how to dj


Posted by Woony on Aug-17-2010 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
DJ'ing with Traktor is exactly the same as DJ'ing with turntables or CDJs, minus the beatmatching (and plus some other bonuses like looping, etc.). You still have to cue, EQ, level, phrase, etc, etc, etc.


Yeah but you don't need most of that if you just want to mix a few tracks together for a CD for a friend, god damnit You can always learn more after.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-17-2010 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Woonyxoxo
Yeah but you don't need most of that if you just want to mix a few tracks together for a CD for a friend, god damnit You can always learn more after.


shut ur hole u toxic newb


Posted by david.michael on Aug-17-2010 19:42:

Mixmeister might be handy for this.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by epicaricacy
lol at using the crossfader


whoa, english please. lol A cross over? Like the music crosses over each other or something? Sorry, Im trying to understand all these replies. lol

Yah, I heard of this ato mix thing. I might try that. I heard though that a lot of virtual dj mixer software allows you to load your tracks up to the software, but as far as saving the tracks, doesnt seem to let you. Only record your music tracks or something.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Mixmeister might be handy for this.


Ok I heard of this software too. Im not looking for something so far advanced like this Tractar or whatever its called. Id be wasting too much time trying to find one simple thing to do out of a million options in its database.

All Im looking to do is load up a few tracks, have the softare calculate the bpms and set the bpms to each track based off the first track that was loaded. So if the first track is track 1 on my friends cd, then track 2 will beat at the same bpm and blend off the ending beat from track 1, and so on to track 3, if this makes sense? Sorry, trying to speak you alls language when it comes to music. Im a tech engineer and less a music engineer. lol haa.


Posted by david.michael on Aug-17-2010 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
Ok I heard of this software too. Im not looking for something so far advanced like this Tractar or whatever its called. Id be wasting too much time trying to find one simple thing to do out of a million options in its database.

All Im looking to do is load up a few tracks, have the softare calculate the bpms and set the bpms to each track based off the first track that was loaded. So if the first track is track 1 on my friends cd, then track 2 will beat at the same bpm and blend off the ending beat from track 1, and so on to track 3, if this makes sense? Sorry, trying to speak you alls language when it comes to music. Im a tech engineer and less a music engineer. lol haa.


I used Mixmeister to make an entire mix in the way that you say you want to. It's been a few years, but basically, it calculates the BPM (and you can adjust or gradually change the bpm by drawing a ramp on the screen if you desire) and you overlap the tracks visually as far as where you want them to start cross over into each other.

Beyond that, it's gonna require a little research from you (if you want to get into "phrasing" it properly and such) so it just depends on how happy you are with the mix.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-17-2010 19:53:

alternatively, you could just do this:


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You don't really have to do any of that but then you'll end up sounding like Oakenfold.


lol ok. Isnt this Oakenfold that guy that did Swordfish years ago? Idk the guy all too well as I dont DJ and never want to become one, but I do like watching you guys spin wax and all. Its very interesting. I like to drink rather than stand and play some records, but thats me. lol


Posted by woscar on Aug-17-2010 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
whoa, english please. lol A cross over? Like the music crosses over each other or something? Sorry, Im trying to understand all these replies. lol


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fade_(audio_engineering)#Crossfading


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
alternatively, you could just do this:



Whoa, is that Tiesto?? Wow he umm.......kinda goofed I think. I saw this on another site called DJ's Gone Tool, or something like that. I never thought Tiesto out of them all would screw up like that.

Hell Im not a DJ and I could of probably put together a better track into what he just played and spun it fine.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 20:07:

I saw another Tiesto video too where he was playing something and the cd he was playing or record rather stopped playing and he looked up at the ceiling with his arms up rather than simply looking behind him and realizing his power on one of the amps were blown or something.

Then he walks off stage cussin in his own language and some guy threw some fanny pack at him while walking off stage. Was pretty hilarious.

Poor guy. I think hes just getting old and needs to hang up his ear phones, personally. Hes already done so much and performed so much.

Didnt he get married though???


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fade_(audio_engineering)#Crossfading


Wiki - emergency parachutes for when you fall off the understanding cliff of society.

lol thanks.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-17-2010 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
shut ur hole u toxic newb


Thats one thing I love about reading posts in here, is how much tranceaddict has gone total Southpark drama in here. lol Sometimes I get enough entertainment with a bag of popcorn and a beer while reading funny thread drama in here. Funny funny. lol

Well, thank you everyone for your time and help. This will give me some software ideas to look over and figure out how they work and what I need.

Again, thanks.


Posted by FuzzQi on Aug-18-2010 02:46:

I use NS Virtual DJ

It's alright but I don't really know better tbh


Posted by Glaniskanis on Aug-18-2010 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
Whoa, is that Tiesto?? Wow he umm.......kinda goofed I think. I saw this on another site called DJ's Gone Tool, or something like that. I never thought Tiesto out of them all would screw up like that.

Hell Im not a DJ and I could of probably put together a better track into what he just played and spun it fine.


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