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Posted by mute79 on Aug-18-2010 18:13:

Toronto Mayoral Race 2010!

the 2010 mayoral election is approaching fast! does everyone know who they will be voting for yet?

here are the candidates:

George Smitherman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smitherman
http://www.georgesmitherman.ca/

Giorgio Mammoliti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Mammoliti
http://mammoliti2010.com/

Joe Pantalone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pantalone
http://www.mayorjoe.ca/

Rob Ford
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ford
http://robford.ca/ (official site)
http://www.fordonford.com/ (George Smitherman sponsored site)

Rocco Rossi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Rossi
http://roccorossi.com/

Sarah Thomson
http://www.sarahthomson.ca/


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-18-2010 18:21:

I hope Tory runs.


Posted by Intangible on Aug-18-2010 18:25:

oh fuck... i had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Sara Thomson... and then read her website... I dont know how that girl will get one vote


Posted by Moral Hazard on Aug-18-2010 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I hope Tory runs.


He said he will not... didn't put any qualifiers on that so I'd say that it isn't going to happen this time. Besides, then I'd lose my favorite radio show host.


Posted by samhouse on Aug-18-2010 18:59:

i would have voted for smitherman initially but he has not really done anything to keep me positive on his campaign.

Since I don't live in Toronto (mississauga), I guess I'm going to have to go with the little Joe Pantalone flyer I saw advertising an international cricket stadium....SOLD

In all seriousness, none of the candidates have impressed me. Might have voted for Tory if he ran...and if i could vote in a toronto election.


Posted by Dior Homme on Aug-18-2010 21:28:

I will be consulting jayx1 first before voting.


Posted by Spam on Aug-18-2010 23:05:

I'd be voting for Rob Ford, too bad he's running for the wrong city He'd make a good replacement for Hazel.


Posted by MarkT on Aug-18-2010 23:15:

Rob Ford would be my last choice and I'm quite dismayed to see him allegedly with a large lead in the polls. The guy is so negative, so argumentative, wavers on issues, and generally seems like a complete asshole. I would be embarrassed to have him represent the city, even judging him by the way he conducts himself in interviews and debates.

Rossi put it best: "�He�s fine when he�s on script, you ask him anything beyond the gravy train and the guy is clueless.�

Smitherman has been a pure politician (all talk, little substance) who still can't figure out his campaign and Rossi, who intrigues me most, doesn't go far enough on some initiatives and appears to be a longshot at this point.

I remain undecided, only knowing for certain that I will NOT be voting for Rob Ford.


Posted by nacarter on Aug-19-2010 12:49:

The frontrunners are pretty ugly this time around. It really is (in the South Park vernacular) a bunch of douchebags versus a bunch of turd sandwiches.

Is Enza Anderson running again? If I have to vote for an ass-clown, I'd rather vote for the real one.


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Aug-19-2010 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I hope Tory runs.


He already said no, but yeah he would have been an awesome mayor

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Besides, then I'd lose my favorite radio show host.


Lol News Talk 1010 is the best, Ryan Doyle is pretty good too after John Tory.


Posted by mute79 on Aug-19-2010 14:24:

ford would run this city into the ground in his first year..

sarah thomson's platform makes the most sense to me.. definitely want to see gardiner and dvp tolled! she should get elected on this alone


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-19-2010 16:53:

Nice news on Ford this morning. Wow.


Posted by MarkT on Aug-20-2010 01:13:

Christopher Hume's latest column in the Toronto Star (I wish he were in a position of power regarding urban development in Toronto, btw):

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/850171

quote:
If Rob Ford were anyone but Rob Ford, his dreams of becoming mayor of Toronto would be dead in the water.

But Rob Ford being what he is, his chances are better than ever.

This is the candidate whose every misstep brings him closer to his constituency. He can avoid the truth, break the rules, say stupid things, get arrested, charged, fined, and it really doesn�t matter to Ford�s supporters.

His opponents and the media can attack him all they like, but Ford�s people couldn�t care less.

Should they? Yes, of course. This is a man who would divide council, polarize the city and embarrass Toronto to no end.

But Ford supporters don�t give a damn. They�re mad as hell and they�re not going to take it any more.

Why should it bother them that in the course of 24 hours he would not tell the truth publicly about facing charges in Florida then state that trust is the only issue in the campaign?

That would have stopped a conventional candidate dead in his tracks. Look at what happened to Adam Giambrone.

Should it bother them that Ford, self-described family-man in a city that he says needs a family-man for mayor, was charged with assaulting his wife, though those charges were later dropped?

Earlier this week, Ford stood in front of the whole city � a city of immigrants � and announced that immigrants are no longer welcome here. Not only that � he got away with it.

Spoken by any other politician, such sentiments would have been the kiss of death. For believers, however, it wasn�t racist cant, but Rob telling it like it is.

Ford�s untruths might be harder to justify, but as he likes to say, �I never said I was perfect.�

No need to remind us of that; no politician has ever worn his limitations on his sleeve more than Ford. The man has made no bones about being a fool, an inarticulate dissembler with a weak grasp on reality, but this is a fool with momentum, a man-child on a mission.

To anyone who inhabits one of Toronto�s parallel non-Fordian universes, the prospect of his mayoralty is downright scary. It would set Toronto back years and make us a laughing stock, even to ourselves.

But again, those who would vote for Ford would not do so despite all this, rather because of it.

The rage against politicians, �lites, experts, panels and the entire power structure has reached the point where many Torontonians do in fact trust Ford because they recognize themselves in him. He is angry; so are they. He�s confused; they are too. He feels as threatened by change as they do. He, too, is suspicious of things he doesn�t understand. He also rejects complexity and ambiguity. He is a black-and-white, no-nonsense kind of guy, full of bull and bluster in the tradition of Don Cherry, Harold Ballard, Mel Lastman�.

And in a culture of civic impoverishment, Ford�s simple message that he alone is looking after taxpayers� hard-earned money has great resonance. We�re constantly told we�re poor, and that the reason is our profligate councillors. Because of them, Toronto is broke.

This may be simplistic horse puckey, but so far it has worked. Ford has been the campaign�s major attraction and sideshow all in one.

His opponents will have to hope Ford�s candidacy unravels as revelations come out. But regardless how odious his behaviour has been, nothing has hurt him yet.

In the end, though, the thing about a Ford is that he brings out the worst in everyone, not just rivals. With friends like him, who needs enemies?


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-20-2010 02:58:

Id like to see the star do the same type of piece on Smitherman who's nickname Furious George is no accident. You want to see a divider in action? Vote Smitherman.

I was leaning toward rocco rossi as a great candidate until he took rob ford's comments at the debate and spun them around like everyone else did and blew them way out of context. In fact i even lambasted Rossi on his own facebook wall with the following:

My Facebook post:

"Rocco, ive been a fan of yours and considering your vote since day one. But I have to say that I am very upset by the spin being put on Rob Ford's comments. While he may not be the most articulate man at times, you and I both know that he was not saying that immigrants should stay out. He was talking about how overwhelmed our infrastructure is and how we cannot support a million more people when things now are already out of control. And he is right. This is why transportation is such a hot issue in this campaign.

Your intelligence level is far above the petty spin you are putting on this comment and i know that you know better. I am not sure I support Rob Ford, but Rocco, I am sorry to say that this sort of political spin here is turning me off of your vote.

Please reconsider taking us down this potentially damaging and dividing spin.

Thanks"

The response i have received from rossi's own supporters have been largely positive.

Is Ford divisive? Of course he is. But unlike smitherman, ford is about to take the fire hose and clean out the crap that has festered in city hall for years. Why do people like him? Because people know what they are getting in Ford. No surprises, not double talk, no spin. If Ford wins,I bet on him being a 1 term mayor. Which is exactly what is needed. Once that is done, bring in a more moderate manager to take care of the city.

Clean out the gutters and scoop up the dog shit. After that you bring in landscapers!

PS i still have a toronto address meaning i can still legally vote in toronto as long as i dont vote anywhere else.


Posted by 1dawoman on Aug-20-2010 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by I_Am_Vince

Lol News Talk 1010 is the best, Ryan Doyle is pretty good too after John Tory.


love these guys...i listen to Doyle religiously in the mornings...

anyways, is it bad that i like Ford more now after hearing his press conference? I also think he'd be better suited to replace Hazel....

Im still undecided on who I'll support...


Posted by Spam on Aug-20-2010 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
Christopher Hume's latest column in the Toronto Star...


Aaaaaand... I've lost interest.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Aug-20-2010 11:31:

quote:
Originally posted by 1dawoman
love these guys...i listen to Doyle religiously in the mornings...


Doyle is on at 7pm... do you mean John Moore?


Posted by psyrel on Aug-20-2010 16:29:

I attended the CP24 debate and couldn't believe just how clueless some candidates were. At the end of it all I still don't like any of them, can we get more (better) choices please?

Here's a review of it that's spot on and pretty funny.

The Fourth Mayoral Debate: Actual Debate Breaks Out
http://torontoist.com/2010/08/liveb...oral_debate.php


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-20-2010 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by psyrel
I attended the CP24 debate and couldn't believe just how clueless some candidates were. At the end of it all I still don't like any of them, can we get more (better) choices please?

Here's a review of it that's spot on and pretty funny.

The Fourth Mayoral Debate: Actual Debate Breaks Out
http://torontoist.com/2010/08/liveb...oral_debate.php


Nice review To me this writer is an apologist for Smitherman. He barely critisized him if at all and saves most of his sarcasm for the right wing candidates. A little unbiased reporting would have been nice


Posted by CMR on Aug-20-2010 19:11:

Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-20-2010 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by CMR
Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.


he appeals to pissed off toronto taxpayers of all walks of life.


Posted by Spam on Aug-20-2010 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by CMR
Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.


Well also keep in mind it's only 12 people out of 26 total voters. I'm sure that if all the apathetic TAs who haven't clicked a name yet actually did, the numbers would even out.

I dunno how anyone actually believed Smitherman had a chance... We just had a lying douchebag as Toronto mayor, why in the hell would another one be elected?


Posted by mute79 on Aug-20-2010 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
he appeals to pissed off toronto taxpayers of all walks of life.


just because he voted no on all expenditures does not mean he can lead this city.. if anything, it proves he can't!


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-20-2010 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
just because he voted no on all expenditures does not mean he can lead this city.. if anything, it proves he can't!


we shall see i guess LOL


Posted by Spam on Aug-21-2010 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
just because he voted no on all expenditures does not mean he can lead this city.. if anything, it proves he can't!


Because voting "yes" worked out so well


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