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Posted by prashant on Aug-20-2010 16:08:

Dunno How to make intros & sample for mix.

Lately I have seen every DJ use a Intro for their mix/podcast and was wondering how to make those. By intro I mean intro like in a state of trance ie [b]"3 2 1 switching to full power, state of trance connection established"[\b] and on and on.

I would also like to know howthe samples like [b]this is a state of trance [\b] are done??


I know my question sounds lame, but this does help to personalise the mix even further.


Posted by discobiscuit on Aug-20-2010 18:16:

You have to be creative. Those intros are made in million dollar studios using the best equipment available. The cheapest way to get your voice to sound robotic would be with software I'm sure some1 will chime in. And launching the samples during a set... I use serato and it has a sample launcher in it. You could easily launch samples in ableton and traktor too. Armin uses ableton for his broadcast but not for his live performances.

Also another cheap way to get cool vocals is with one of those digitech vocal effect pedals


Posted by djsaekone on Aug-20-2010 19:06:

sample cool movie quotes n shit


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-20-2010 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Those intros are made in million dollar studios using the best equipment available.


im glad i got to this first.

Discobiscuit, your a tru newb


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Aug-20-2010 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Those intros are made in billion dollar studios using the best equipment available.



fixed

No really clueless bro


Posted by discobiscuit on Aug-21-2010 09:12:

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Posted by prashant on Aug-21-2010 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
You have to be creative. Those intros are made in million dollar studios using the best equipment available. The cheapest way to get your voice to sound robotic would be with software I'm sure some1 will chime in. And launching the samples during a set... I use serato and it has a sample launcher in it. You could easily launch samples in ableton and traktor too. Armin uses ableton for his broadcast but not for his live performances.

Also another cheap way to get cool vocals is with one of those digitech vocal effect pedals


Well I know AvB uses Ableton for ASOTs and not for his live performances, and thanks a lot for enlightening me with rest of the post.
No offence, but I have heard so many podcasts now, that what you said about studios seems a little far-fetched. I mean there are guys who just do these podcasts because they like trance and are no-way near pro DJs; but they also have those cool intro's. I dont know how though (their Creativity, may be).

But anyways I will try to sample my own voice and some SCi-Fi movies may be.
Thanks for the post again. I would love to see more information on this though.


Posted by Scrittah on Aug-21-2010 14:33:

I could be wrong, but most of the intros sound as simple as vocoders+echoes/reverb+whatever other filter you want. I hardly think you need a million dollar studio to make most of these intros.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Aug-21-2010 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
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Posted by discobiscuit on Aug-21-2010 21:13:

U said "like a state of trance" and yes that intro was made in a million dollar studio. Armin is the best and he uses the best of everything. I mean even having the guy who's actual voice is on that intro cost thousands of dollars. Flight, room, board, and salary. And like I said those no-namers you hear are using software and being creative. So I don't know what the fuck you pussies are tryin to jump on my dick for.

This should be in the production forum anyway fucksticks


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-22-2010 09:19:

sample yourself and use autotune


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-22-2010 09:48:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit

This should be in the production forum anyway fucksticks

Weird, I thought this was the production studio...


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-22-2010 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Weird, I thought this was the production studio...

it seemed to have been moved. look at the early replys, do u ever see them in production studio?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-22-2010 10:26:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503
it seemed to have been moved. look at the early replys, do u ever see them in production studio?

I don't know, I don't follow people around.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-22-2010 11:58:

Here is one i did for the headliner of a rave in 2002

The rave was called something apocalyptic like Contact of something and I basically used that as a theme. Downloaded a bunch of sample cds and sort of did the foley work as I imagined people coming out of a spaceship to a new world. There is a low pad and lfo synth with really slow modulation. That speeds up and I separate the my voice ( would of used a girl but no girlfriend at the time) and then I used a sample library that has a computer count down.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/7959876801bdb41a/

took about 2 days to do but the hard part was just finding the right samples for the foley.It is pretty epic but it was for a big rave and the crowd was young I guess I just kept that in mind. My least favourite part is the voice but I hate the sound of my own voice so not much I can do about that.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Aug-23-2010 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
Here is one i did for the headliner of a rave in 2002

The rave was called something apocalyptic like Contact of something and I basically used that as a theme. Downloaded a bunch of sample cds and sort of did the foley work as I imagined people coming out of a spaceship to a new world. There is a low pad and lfo synth with really slow modulation. That speeds up and I separate the my voice ( would of used a girl but no girlfriend at the time) and then I used a sample library that has a computer count down.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/7959876801bdb41a/

took about 2 days to do but the hard part was just finding the right samples for the foley.It is pretty epic but it was for a big rave and the crowd was young I guess I just kept that in mind. My least favourite part is the voice but I hate the sound of my own voice so not much I can do about that.


Bro that was really fucking impressive. And maybe you don't like your voice but it worked better than a lot of voices I can think of lol.

I'm actually suprised you did that in only 2 days, I mean it sounds simple at first glance but its got a lot of intricate random placement that gels together cohesively. And thats not an easy thing to do.

My main question though is a particular sound in that sample that I've always been obsessed with. I sometimes hear it underlying pads and it adds so much tension in the background. But that screeching/bending metal sound is that just a sine wave? How do you get it to sound so tense? What are you modulating to do that? It sounds like pitch but it can't be that simple, because pitch modulation will not result in that type of tension. What else is going on I really would love to know how to do that sound?

Either way really impressive work. We got off on a bad foot at one point but I've prob learned more from you than any other producer here tbo (and I promise I'm not bribing you with compliments lol).


Posted by Stephen Wiley on Aug-23-2010 06:02:

didnt listen but are you talking about the overused oil cans sample in omnisphere? Omni ripped it from somewhere else, as I've heard it as far back as 99. (BT - Flaming June (PVD Remix) - It's in pretty much every cheesy scary movie. I'd stay away from that sound if you care about originality. It's probably the most popular sound sample ever used. For the record I believe it's just a metal saw grinding with velocity automation going up and then down along with the metal saw speeding up/down with the velocity automation. It sounds like a real recording to me but could just be some clever lfo/garbage noise work.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-23-2010 12:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Bro that was really fucking impressive. And maybe you don't like your voice but it worked better than a lot of voices I can think of lol.

I'm actually suprised you did that in only 2 days, I mean it sounds simple at first glance but its got a lot of intricate random placement that gels together cohesively. And thats not an easy thing to do.

My main question though is a particular sound in that sample that I've always been obsessed with. I sometimes hear it underlying pads and it adds so much tension in the background. But that screeching/bending metal sound is that just a sine wave? How do you get it to sound so tense? What are you modulating to do that? It sounds like pitch but it can't be that simple, because pitch modulation will not result in that type of tension. What else is going on I really would love to know how to do that sound?

Either way really impressive work. We got off on a bad foot at one point but I've prob learned more from you than any other producer here tbo (and I promise I'm not bribing you with compliments lol).


Waterphone! It actually is a real instrument and despite being a little overused in horror films, it can sound really cool if it is in the background.I love the waterphone. And thanks for the compliments. As far as what is going on it is rather simple. PRetty sure there is a choir backing up the strings in unison. There is the jupiter pad that provides the bass , the root note is also the same. I just change from a minor chord to an augmented on the same root which gives it that weird tension. Then the lfo synth is just a virus detuned saw patch that speeds up, I speed up the heart beats at the end. The ship sounds were from sound ideas set. Mechanical sounds or something like that. The sound effects between the voice are from Jeff Thomans Killahertz collection. Something like that made for radio producers. I suppose i found it easier to do because the goal was quite clear and the theme limited the possibilities. Much harder to just start a tune from scratch with no limitations. I basically just started with the low pad, then thought, hmmm high kids would like heart beats, then thought, ya gas masks, then the alien theme matched the rave theme and after that it was a matter of finding the samples.I basically thought to myself, If I was 16 tripping on E, what would I find cool.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-23-2010 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
didnt listen but are you talking about the overused oil cans sample in omnisphere? Omni ripped it from somewhere else, as I've heard it as far back as 99. (BT - Flaming June (PVD Remix) - It's in pretty much every cheesy scary movie. I'd stay away from that sound if you care about originality. It's probably the most popular sound sample ever used. For the record I believe it's just a metal saw grinding with velocity automation going up and then down along with the metal saw speeding up/down with the velocity automation. It sounds like a real recording to me but could just be some clever lfo/garbage noise work.


can pretty much guarantee that everything you hear in omnisphere was recorded by them.


Posted by owien on Aug-23-2010 18:13:

the simple answer be if you have a daw and had a idea of how to use it think of something you would like to open a set with and try and make it.

if you dont have a daw then find someone who can make one for you


Posted by EddieZilker on Aug-23-2010 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Armin is the best and he uses the best of everything. I mean even having the guy who's actual voice is on that intro cost thousands of dollars.


I couldn't agree more!

Finally, another die-hard AvB fan. I have had to suffer these fools and their utterly cynical mediocrity, for a long time. A very long time. Alone.

Please. Join me in the production forum where we can discuss true artists instead of hanging out with these utter nimrods in the Production Studio - a place for amateur hour if there ever was one; and you'd be appalled on open-mike-night.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-23-2010 19:27:

I hear access made a special oscillator custom made only for his virus. From what I have heard , it is called a parallelogram wave.


Posted by EddieZilker on Aug-23-2010 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I hear access made a special oscillator custom made only for his virus. From what I have heard , it is called a parallelogram wave.


Sure to be the last piece of the puzzle in his ever expanding God-Complex.



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