I know I'm ignorant, but Germany and Techno/Trance

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Posted by El Mariachi on Jul-25-2002 16:57:

I know I'm ignorant, but Germany and Techno/Trance

Just curious to hear from Germans on the popularity of trance/techno in their country. Do a LOT of people dig it?

Posted by DJ A.i on Jul-25-2002 17:50:

im not from germany but i know that Trance/techno or whatever u want to call it, is the music that everyone listens to over there.... i mean, its the home of most popular producers/dj's and the love parade is held there.... GOD knows how many people go to that... looks like millions to me =)

Posted by UltimaGT on Jul-25-2002 22:14:

I've always been curios about the same thing, as far as the wide spread popularity of dance music abroad particularly in euro-land. Being from the states, and more specificly KANSAS I really don't get to hear alot of the stuff I like, for that matter any of it. Any sort of dance music that makes it big in Kansas has been on the airwaves for liteerally months everywhere else, it's sad I live in a ass backwards community ah well, but yeah I would like to know also how dance music is treated else where in the world

Posted by InfiniteSquare on Jul-25-2002 22:27:

duh...the best trance comes from germany

Posted by jp on Jul-25-2002 22:34:

Germany=

Hardtrance
(TracidTraxx)
Trance
(Kontor)

Posted by 69 KrAzY G 69 on Jul-25-2002 23:10:

u shoulda read the thread on how trance originalted, at first techno was formed in germany and then it was taken to holland where it was made into trance.....Germany u will hear more of the harder stuff i believe cuz i think there into the techno more than the trance i guess. Just look at PVD vs Tiesto we all know pvd plays more powerful stuff

Posted by Dmatrox on Jul-25-2002 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by 69 KrAzY G 69
u shoulda read the thread on how trance originalted, at first techno was formed in germany and then it was taken to holland where it was made into trance.....Germany u will hear more of the harder stuff i believe cuz i think there into the techno more than the trance i guess. Just look at PVD vs Tiesto we all know pvd plays more powerful stuff

I heard a different version.

I heard that house music was originated somewhere in the United States, maybe Chicago or New York, and later on, Oakenfold brought a baleric sound to Ibiza and England. I dunno, does anyone have some reliable internet source of it?

Posted by ShadoWolf on Jul-26-2002 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox

I heard a different version.

I heard that house music was originated somewhere in the United States, maybe Chicago or New York, and later on, Oakenfold brought a baleric sound to Ibiza and England. I dunno, does anyone have some reliable internet source of it?

well supposedly it was Detroit. I argue that what came out of Detroit didn't influence modern trance at all, but rather that it was a European invention

Posted by InfiniteSquare on Jul-26-2002 04:08:

Trance is not pop.

How can you say that in Germany they think trance is pop and techno is the shit. Thats complete bullshit. Trance is huge over there because it is awesome, not just because its on the radio and a majority of the people listen to it there.

Posted by tranceDJ on Jul-26-2002 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
Trance is not pop.

How can you say that in Germany they think trance is pop and techno is the shit. Thats complete bullshit. Trance is huge over there because it is awesome, not just because its on the radio and a majority of the people listen to it there.

dude, pop="popular music"...in Germany trance is popular so in essence it is in fact pop. This trance though thats really popular in Germany is the Ian van Dahl, DJ Sammy stuff. A lot of teenagers will like the same music as teens in the US but they'll like the commercial trance as well. Pretty much, commercial stuff (rnb, rap, american pop) and commercial trance dominate the mainstream.

There's more people into trance and trance is played on the radio a lot (i.e. pvd's soundgarden). There's more raves and larger parties than we have in the US. Popular trance is played in stores a lot and almost everyone can tolerate and from time to time enjoy dance music...even the adults (most adults in the US hear trance and think wtf?). Anyway, if ur wondering how relevent this info is, I spent 3 weeks in Germany in February.

Posted by ricky on Jul-26-2002 06:23:

I was thinking trance started with goa that originated at Goa Beach, India, and then mixed in with UK House, and the hard edge of German techno, and then trance eventually evolved into what it is today. Of course with different countries adding different elements.

Posted by Verona^My on Jul-26-2002 08:10:

It depends on the type of trance... goa trance has very different origins than the european variety. I think the european variety is more house influenced/ whilst goatrance might be a little more EBM influenced. SFX (old Astral Projection moniker) has some interesting tracks from 89-93. Makes me wonder who else plays that old style, as I rather like it.

Posted by Verona^My on Jul-26-2002 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
well supposedly it was Detroit. I argue that what came out of Detroit didn't influence modern trance at all, but rather that it was a European invention

it's :

Chicago House
Detroit Techno

Posted by lake10 on Jul-26-2002 14:13:

I'm not from germany, but live 10 kilometers near Germany and buy all my trance in Germany... For the guys who though Holland is the nr.1 trance country: WRONG! Germany is!... Just look at the German SALES chart: the only chart in the world were TRANCE is in the top 10..

Posted by InfiniteSquare on Jul-26-2002 14:40:

Germany is better than Holland for trance.

Posted by Pandoneus on Jul-26-2002 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
Germany is better than Holland for trance.

I can't really agree - For a certain time you mainly hear unbearable cover versions & remakes in our German clubs - No innovations, no spirit, no new ideas.

I love driving to Holland several times a year to hear Armin/Tiesto etc. spinning real music that fits my taste.

Surely, there are a few good trance producers like Dumonde / Pvd / CJ Stone / Green Court, but normally you have no choice: Either Techno in its hardest forms (so-called Schranz) or commercial clubs that want to please everybody's taste!

In my opinion, Germany is a land of technoaddicts rather than a land of tranceaddicts (Example? - Listen to Love Parade / Mayday ... sets).

Posted by Greedy on Jul-28-2002 05:47:

Now THAT is interesting.

Posted by limin_li on Jul-28-2002 07:10:

Blank And Jones did a track called watching the waves, thats pretty Epic Tranceyish, but you will always hear Dumonde or Cosmic Gate and CJ stone releasing Progressive and Hard Trance. Some of these stuff dont make sense to me. Trance suppost to have a feeling to it. What you hear in Dumonde or Cosmic Gate are like "in your face" or "what the fuck are you looking" at kind of music. Thats why I dig Holands Trance. Its more mellow and smoothing sythnizer that takes you higher. UK's trance ain't bad either, Above and Beyond and Lange got some really nice tracks and remixes as well. But German Trance is like ugh. I know people will hate me, but I think Hard Trance/Progressive Trance doesn't make sense. I think Epic/Mellow Trance are the real deal.