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House > Trance

This place is dead, time for a good topic.

House is better then trance, why do I say this?

All the biggest trance acts are playing LOTS of house music. Do big house acts play trance? Nope.

Now, "trance" artists and re-mixers are making trance remixes and trance edits of house songs.

House gets more airplay on the radio, here in America and the rest of the world.

My final point that I can think of right now, house was here first. Trance is houses little brother, no house no EDM which equals no trance.

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Re: House > Trance

i do agree that a lot of trance dj's are mixing house-ish songs in their sets, ie markus schulz, sander van doorn, armin van buuren, ferry corsten.

but then again, markus, sander, and ferry aren't exactly 100% trance dj's either.

i can listen to a set with 100% trance, i can't listen to a set with 100% house, but i enjoy sets w both house & trance.

what genre is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD7r9maBdkI

Re: Re: House > Trance

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Originally posted by modthispny i do agree that a lot of trance dj's are mixing house-ish songs in their sets, ie markus schulz, sander van doorn, armin van buuren, ferry corsten.

Armin, Markus and SvD all started out on the house trip

markus was primarly a prog house DJ

While I love Markus now, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEED when he was way more progressive. Right in the middle of prog-house and trance. He really got known because he was a DJ that both prog fans and trance fans could go out and have a blast with.

SVD was tollerable last week, however I guess he plays house as well. However I couldn't tollerate Aly/Fila a couple months back at Rain. (weekend of the boxing match)

Went from Richard Vision to trance that I really couldn't get into. I've also noticed house music brings out way more females vs. house.

I'd prob still be down to check out Tiesto or AVB once in a blue moon.

I agree with house>trance, BUT
good trance is better than crappy house.

the crowd at avalon for sander on saturday, umm i dont think a lot of them knew who the hell he was...shoot, it looked like a lot of them didnt know who the hell THEY were!

i can't stand ali & fila either..wayyyyyyy too floaty.

House music tends to be more popular for dancing, trance tends to be better for listening.

That's why when you see a "trance" DJ in a club, the set usually has more of a house vibe than their mix albums.

I can't say house is better than trance, though. It's not. It's "dumber", for lack of a better term. It's good for dancing, but it doesn't inspire. The only stuff I really like that could maybe be described as house is progressive, and some tech house.

I'm not saying I hate house, I don't. It's just too simple for me to enjoy listening to it for more than an hour or so at a time, and I prefer it when mixed with progressive and trance. It's great as background music at clubs, but not as great to "actively" listen to.

And for the record, trance DJs use house songs as bridges between more emotional songs. They use it to get the crowd moving before taking them to the next level. Once again, this shows that house is good for getting you moving, but it doesn't inspire.

So yes, house is great at being Electronic DANCE Music, but trance is much more than just dance music.

EDIT: And house couldn't have existed without disco... and disco wouldn't have existed without funk... we could do this forever. :P

I don't think there are any pure trance DJs left, and more people do like house than trance.

But as it was said above, I'd kill myself if I had to listen to 3+ hours of house. And I'd be disappointed if I didn't get to listen to 3+ hours of "trance".

what genre do opener dj's spin? is it house?

Depends, usually house...maybe a little prog trance depending on who the headliner is and who the opener is.

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Originally posted by modthispny what genre do opener dj's spin? is it house?

It depends, but normally that's the case, yes.

So what would your version of the best house song of this year, and the best house song in history?

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Originally posted by modthispny what genre do opener dj's spin? is it house?

As someone else said, that shoudl depend on the particular style of the headliner. A house opener who tries to force a transition into into something that goes well into the trance headliner where it's obvious they are going out of their element to do so are the worst openers...they are ALWAYS boring.

LA used to be hardcore about having house acts open for trance headliners. It was rare that I really enjoyed opening sets when I used to travel down from SF. It still happens, though. OPener for Ferry at Vanguard last year bored me and the crowd to death considering the music I (and prob the rest of the crowd) was anticipating for the night. I think it's why the crowd was boring that night, too. Boring opener, no motivation in the crowd to dance.

I agree. Its really hard to find trance here in Japan...They simply rarely plays trance or bring trance Djs now. But their excuse here is that Trance invites more drug users over house.

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Originally posted by DaveT While I love Markus now, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEED when he was way more progressive. Right in the middle of prog-house and trance.

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Originally posted by modthispny what genre do opener dj's spin? is it house?

I thought part of the reason why openers tend to be housier is because house music typically has a lower bpm range (120-130) than trance (~130-140). Openers for trance DJs usually want to hand off the decks at the lower end of the bpm range for trance (~130) so the main DJ can build up the energy during the set.

This means that openers are almost forced to play housier music since there are relatively few trance songs they could play in their allowed bpm range.

Also, as other people have said house music often is better at getting people onto the dance floor. Since there usually are few people in the club and dancing when the opening DJ comes on, playing house music makes more sense.

(These bpm numbers are just estimates of course)

Those are pretty accurate numbers, and that formula is typical for most events. Lower bpm leads into the harder, nastier stuff for house DJs. If it's a trance headliner, then the lower bpm leads into higher bpm with epic breaks and lasers.

Gabber > everything

I open at CIRCUS a lot and it really depends on the crowd and the headliner. When it's a DJ like...say Sean Tyas. well he plays 136+ so there is some play room for songs 130-135. When it's a DJ like Sied van Riel over the weekend then you're kinda forced with the 128-132 stuff.

I do not agree that House music is better than Trance music. It simply has a easier trend to follow because of the simplicity in the music and it all (for the most part) sounds the same. Now I say that because if you really listen to what makes house music stand out (the bassline) it really does sound the same.

I will not defend Trance on that because yes there are similarities in Trance music also. This goes with any other genre of music. Customers have their tastes and would rather see certain DJs than others. Or at least hear different music.

I would prefer Trance over anything because of the following reasons:

I understand the music better
The crowds at House events usually don't know who they are seeing and don't appreciate what is going on.
I get annoyed from House music depending on the song.

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Originally posted by Andrieux Gabber > everything

you sir are fail

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Originally posted by ShweetuH you sir are fail

Nope best music ever.

glad you're all so proud of house but cant even name a few tracks

Well said.

I can't name any recent tracks that have been released by the big boys. But at this point it doesn't matter since some of the tracks I've listened to recently have surpassed anything I've heard from them. amazing! If the 10 top fell off the face of the planet, trance would live on because of these small timers and many more that pour into the genre people tend to think is fading. Just to mention a few..

Matt Zo, Who is, Denny Szymura, Akira Kayosa, Redstar. etc etc.

House can make me dance, but I glide when I listen to trance.

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Originally posted by ShweetuH I do not agree that House music is better than Trance music. It simply has a easier trend to follow because of the simplicity in the music and it all (for the most part) sounds the same.

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