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Age and intellectual laziness

I find that as I get older I am less likely to take on tasks that involve learning lots of new concepts or information, and I generally use less energy on reconsidering my settled opinions or articulating to any great length my reasons for disagreeing with a position on an issue.

Anyone else find this to be true for yourself?

Maybe it's not laziness, it's just some ideas are just air tight good, and cannot be broken apart.

I'm too old to think about this thread.

The only real wisdom is knowing you know nothing

To a certain extent. I am less likely to be interested in learning entirely new sports or hobbies because I don't want to go through the entire learning process again. That's also why I'm never going to make any music. I spent years practising writing and now if I have an idea I can usually realise it in writing. I try to make music and cannot just actualise my ideas, and I'm not willing to be the struggling amateur again and go through the learning process.

But on the other hand, I feel less continuous as an intellectual entity than ever before. I try and look back at myself in the past and see how far back I could go and still agree with myself. Doesn't go back very far for many subjects. So I definitely don't feel set in my intellectual ways.

Oddly, no. I find that I'll take on new things, like the acquisition of Blender (3D graphics program) about three years ago, quite eagerly. Generally, I enjoy any opportunity to learn. I am more stubborn regarding my views but it's not because of any intellectual deceit or stupidity.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I find that as I get older I am less likely to take on tasks that involve learning lots of new concepts or information, and I generally use less energy on reconsidering my settled opinions or articulating to any great length my reasons for disagreeing with a position on an issue. Anyone else find this to be true for yourself?

The plasticity and malleability of your neural wiring might be attenuating. I think it's common as you age that you become accustomed to a more conventional pattern. But I don't think this is necessarily a good thing. It could mean that you're not being exposed to a multifarious environment, making your experiences are more perfunctory.

I would suggest if you're experiencing ennui to start shocking your brain by doing things you wouldn't normally want to do: like take a vacation somewhere, trying something new to eat, say something bold in public you wouldn't normally dare to say, take a class at a local college, get drunk then film yourself throwing up while throwing up then put it on youtube and become famous.

Are you satisfied with not caring to learn anything new? Or do you find this onerous? Maybe you want to move to a new city altogether. Do you have a girlfriend? If so, is she starting to bore you?

/studying way too much for the GREs ...sorry these vocab words are invading my brain

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I find that as I get older I am less likely to take on tasks that involve learning lots of new concepts or information, and I generally use less energy on reconsidering my settled opinions or articulating to any great length my reasons for disagreeing with a position on an issue. Anyone else find this to be true for yourself?

becoming a conservative republican speeds up the process

I'm actually the opposite, the more time that goes on the more I feel compelled to learn new things and ways of seeing the world.

Although I do have a foundation that is quite fundamental, it is so overgrown and protected the kernal is really very much a red button contigency reserve in a candy playland of modes of living. Luckily I've functionally developed enough to pretty much sustain any situation - as far as knowledge is concerned there is a infinite potential, but whenever you expose yourself to new environments, it is undoubted you will recognize you are learning as opposed to using wired knowledge and skills.

I have immense projects that have steep knowledge curves - they will likely not be finished in the forseeable future (next 10-20 years) so I really have no choice but to learn while engaged in my passtime projects - 90+% of my time. (even my dreams are part of my knowledge curve since I have deja vus and forsights as well as interpretations of my dreams that fall into my waking hours -eg technology in my dreams that doesn't exist yet, or people doing things I have never seen, then trying to rationalize them into the real)

My hobbies include music, technology, nature, history, culture exercise.
This runs the gammut of the arts and sciences so I'm pretty much only not learning when government agents kidnap me.

Hahaha, excellent.

It's quite the opposite for me, actually. As a matter of fact, I'm going back to school next year and get a degree in Philosophy.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oddly, no. I find that I'll take on new things, like the acquisition of Blender (3D graphics program) about three years ago, quite eagerly. Generally, I enjoy any opportunity to learn. I am more stubborn regarding my views but it's not because of any intellectual deceit or stupidity.

+1

I am too hungry and curious to ever be too lazy to learn.

i was thinking that i am too lazy to reply to this thread but then had to just to make that point.

I'm also seeking out new sports and want to learn how to play about 4 currently. I think that we evolve in taste but I don't believe we get lazier per se

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I find that as I get older I am less likely to take on tasks that involve learning lots of new concepts or information, and I generally use less energy on reconsidering my settled opinions or articulating to any great length my reasons for disagreeing with a position on an issue. Anyone else find this to be true for yourself?

What I've found when I was teaching and coaching people is that some older people tend to have a lot of confidence issues when it comes to new things. Socially in a group or team environment they're unsure of where they fit in and a good part of that is that long term, pre-existing concepts sometimes have to be broken down will take longer.
Older people spend 'X' amount of years figuring things out, understand consequences better, expectations of others and have it down pat, whereas younger people have confidence and ambition, but effectively know very little in terms of results and other peoples expectations.

Laziness is generally a sign of boredom or complacency in a current state, being presented with something new should elicit some kind of reaction, if they don't react its more than likely disinterest.

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Originally posted by Lilith What I've found when I was teaching and coaching people is that

Whoa, whoa. Just because you had a whistle and weren't afraid to use it doesn't give you rights to a title.

Nah, I really can't relate to this. If anything, I'm quite the opposite: the older I get, the more playful and critic I become with ideas... and I get frustrated by the fact that I've had to narrow down my readings a bit

ps.: You're not old, Jive, you're depressed and in a dier need of psychologist.

pps.: No, that wasn't a typo. It's really a need that could well die in the future.

All great art and religion likely comes from a place of depression- even if it is rooted in the need to extinguish oneself of it; Especially the need to purge. I am not going to pontificate slychologically toward you, JBJ, but perhaps it is time that you re-directed your malaise toward as many creative pursuits as possible. I think that it is incumbent upon anyone with even a touch of inspiration in them to sort of create their very own basis of knowledge, even if it is fictional. Especially if it is fictional.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On All great art and religion likely comes from a place of depression- even if it is rooted in the need to extinguish oneself of it; Especially the need to purge. I am not going to pontificate slychologically toward you, JBJ, but perhaps it is time that you re-directed your malaise toward as many creative pursuits as possible. I think that it is incumbent upon anyone with even a touch of inspiration in them to sort of create their very own basis of knowledge, even if it is fictional. Especially if it is fictional.

I wouldn't for a second even try to disagree with you there. However, instead of living a creative/destructive sort of depression that propels geniuses to create/destroy great ideas, JiveBoJingles is becoming more and more like Droopy, and you said that yourself. That's why I reckon he could need just some temporary help. It's hard to do anything when you live a morose and sullen existence.

We need less static and more whiny/cranky Jive!

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Originally posted by Lira I wouldn't for a second even try to disagree with you there. However, instead of living a creative/destructive sort of depression that propels geniuses to create/destroy great ideas, JiveBoJingles is becoming more and more like Droopy, and you said that yourself. That's why I reckon he could need just some temporary help. It's hard to do anything when you live a morose and sullen existence. We need less static and more whiny/cranky Jive!

Well, depression is misdirected anger.

Yeah, it's inward anger, though I'm sure Lira has already deducted that from the way the words are put together:

dep- ression
ag- ression

In any case, yeah, he can be pretty pitiful. And I think the comparison was more toward Eeyore than Droopy. "Thanks for noticin'..."

I know you are no fan of Nietzsche, Lira, but really, what he had to say about self-loathing and nihilism and depression has really, really resonated with me. It is the times that you feel fucking utterly low and that there is nothing worth living for that give meaning to the things we take for ourselves in life to pull us out of them. Doubtful Nietzsche was the first to formally ruminate on a balanced lifestyle of polar dispositions, but it's true- to have any sort of established and real temperament that lasts through one's life and is in the least bit empowering, you have to have experienced the distinct feeling that you have lost it all.

Uh, I'm the one who called him Eeyore. Fags.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On In any case, yeah, he can be pretty pitiful.

I'd like to backpedal a bit and say that I quite like Brian and always find his posts interesting. I can be quite pitiful, myself, and though I think he is a far more knowledgabe person than myself, I also believe he could do a lot of interesting things in life if he simply put his mind to them. I have a lot of hope that he can put himself to great use, I just wish that he would not constantly try to reprimand himself for his proclivities and instead just suck it all up for a while and kick the habit.

Also, he should seek beatings once in a while. It would do him a lot of good.

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Originally posted by jennypie Uh, I'm the one who called him Eeyore. Fags.

Shut the fuck up.

Maybe you should think about doing that, as you are the one who consumes so much oxygen with all your verbose diatribes.

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