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Posted by igottaknow on Aug-29-2010 02:58:

Muscial (Musical) Instrument

Anybody play a musical instrument or learning one?

I used to play guitar for few years. It didn't come natural to me, I didn't have the finger strength and flexibility for cords. I don't know if it matters but I didn't grow up in a musical family. Some people pick up rhythm and harmony quickly. Or hear a song and be able to play it without seeing the notes for it. I'm not like that.

I'm now thinking of giving the harmonica a try. Anyone else ever play it? Or wanted to? I like how portable and inexpensive it is and I also like the blues and how it sounds. One of things that is problematic with any instrument is finding the time to practice and a place where you can learn to play without driving people crazy listening to you do repetitive scales and parts of a song you're trying to master.


Posted by chlola on Aug-29-2010 03:09:

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Posted by w_ashley on Aug-29-2010 03:16:

Re: Muscial Instrument

trumpet, guitar, keyboard/piano, also electronic music stuff.

however I'm not grade 10 in anything so it is all pretty much hobby.

each year I improve a little bit with each instrument.

I've played harmonica and have one, however it to me is far more limited from the other three instruments. I also have a violin but I have yet to rosin it. Got everything quite cheap, well within the hobby range.


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Aug-29-2010 03:18:


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Originally posted by chlola
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On topic: I was always musically inept..

However I am learning piano and guitar now, guitar seems far simpler so far, I am having troubles with "aiming" on the piano... But yeah, apart from that, it's going pretty well.


I have never played a harmonica, so I can't really help you with that... It looks pretty damn tough to me.


Posted by w_ashley on Aug-29-2010 03:19:

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer




On topic: I was always musically inept..

However I am learning piano and guitar now, guitar seems far simpler so far, I am having troubles with "aiming" on the piano... But yeah, apart from that, it's going pretty well.


I have never played a harmonica, so I can't really help you with that... It looks pretty damn tough to me.

guitar is more complex than piano imo.

playing Piano is mostly finger dexterity and learning to think of both hands as one (and each hand and finger as a seperate entity)imo

the guitar imo has a lot more complexity in terms of more intricate finger placement as well as in the case of electric guitars far more paramaters than piano with pedals.

both of course require skill to master but guitar imo is more complex.


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Aug-29-2010 03:23:

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Originally posted by ********
guitar is more complex than piano imo.



Yeah well, I have way more experience with the guitar then the piano, which is completely new to me.



I always wanted to give the violin a try, how's that going?


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-29-2010 03:26:

Re: Re: Muscial Instrument

quote:
Originally posted by ********
trumpet, guitar, keyboard/piano, also electronic music stuff.

however I'm not grade 10 in anything so it is all pretty much hobby.

each year I improve a little bit with each instrument.

I like to be all in or not at all. I find after a long lapse it takes a lot just to get back to where I was. To me its like exercise, if you fall out of a routine your done for.

I find at the beginner/intermediate stage its not very creative. You are just memorizing songs others have written and performing them like an amateur. That's part of my problem I get frustrated and want be able to have fun and not sound like a hack, even though its just a hobby. I mean whats the point of doing something sub par. Maybe I'm just a perfectionist. I just hate it when my desire exceeds my ability.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Aug-29-2010 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
guitar is more complex than piano imo.

playing Piano is mostly finger dexterity and learning to think of both hands as one (and each hand and finger as a seperate entity)imo

the guitar imo has a lot more complexity in terms of more intricate finger placement as well as in the case of electric guitars far more paramaters than piano with pedals.

both of course require skill to master but guitar imo is more complex.


hell no dude. you may be able to manipulate the sound a bit more with a guitar (ie vibrato, bends, etc) but piano is far more complex. prime example: piano music = master clef. guitar music = treble clef. piano = your left hand is playing in a separate clef than your right hand at many times. guitar = your left hand is fingering the notes, your right is performing the rhythm.

and intricate finger placement my ass. guitar finger placement is all patterns that never change regardless of the position on the fret board. you will never be able to mimic note-for-note the most complex piano pieces with a guitar; conversely, the piano can come pretty damn close to emulating anything the guitar can play (sans certain types of sound manipulation such as bends like i mentioned earlier).

you're wrong, william.


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-29-2010 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
guitar is more complex than piano imo.

playing Piano is mostly finger dexterity and learning to think of both hands as one (and each hand and finger as a seperate entity)imo

the guitar imo has a lot more complexity in terms of more intricate finger placement as well as in the case of electric guitars far more paramaters than piano with pedals.

both of course require skill to master but guitar imo is more complex.

I played classical guitar that required more finger strength than electric. I agree the notes aren't laid out in a linear fashion like a piano. I always found that part difficult. I only was able to master the first position and some of the second position. It's also true every instrument has its pros and cons.


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-29-2010 03:45:

I played piano since I was a kid. I got formal lessons for about 12 years, but stopped when I was about 17. I still play sometimes on our keyboard synths, but I really wish we had something with weighted keys - It feels really weird without them.


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-29-2010 03:48:

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Originally posted by Sushipunk
I played piano since I was a kid. I got formal lessons for about 12 years, but stopped when I was about 17. I still play sometimes on our keyboard synths, but I really wish we had something with weighted keys - It feels really weird without them.

you look more like bass/guitar player. piano that's just sissy bro.

maybe the drums. i mean thats straight up macho


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-29-2010 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
you look more like bass/guitar player. piano that's just sissy bro.


Meh, I can play guitar a little bit, but not very well at all

Unfortunately, due to not practicing much over the years, my piano skills aren't so crash hot now either. I can still play things by ear though, mostly.


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-29-2010 04:01:

I've always had this fear if I got good enough I would become one of those douches who join a band and play bad covers at hole in the wall bars on the weekends.


Posted by w_ashley on Aug-29-2010 04:46:

Re: Re: Re: Muscial Instrument

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I like to be all in or not at all. I find after a long lapse it takes a lot just to get back to where I was. To me its like exercise, if you fall out of a routine your done for.

I find at the beginner/intermediate stage its not very creative. You are just memorizing songs others have written and performing them like an amateur. That's part of my problem I get frustrated and want be able to have fun and not sound like a hack, even though its just a hobby. I mean whats the point of doing something sub par. Maybe I'm just a perfectionist. I just hate it when my desire exceeds my ability.


Good for you - personally I can only play trumpet for so long before I loose my chops, keys tend to only interest me for a short time during improv and composition, and guitar is even more so.

Why go all into 1 when you can go all into 4?

There is no upper limit. thats it.

10 years ago I was perfectly happy with the music I made... I look back and almost all the music from that period doesn't really do it for me.

I revised one of my tracks today
http://williamashley.info/mp3/talon.mp3

and I'm digging it 'today' ten years from now it may be a different story.

the fact is that music is about the experience - a lot of pros may have good techniques but the music they play is bollocks.

90% of music that was fill and just ok 10 years ago is utter junk today.

Technical errors suck for sure but a good song or bad one isn't based on how complex it is.. some good songs are actually quite simple.

Hopefully you'll learn that. You will never be the best - until you are god themself. That is just the general rule of things.


Put your all into it sure... fact is I find the experience better when I do so when I actually enjoy it because I enjoy it. Hell its not work.

music is expression. you want a photocopy copy it.


Posted by Watts on Aug-29-2010 05:56:

Bass and electric guitar. Death metal. Bass is pretty versatile, but in my opinion, electric guitar is mostly good for shred.

But shred is good!


Posted by FuzzQi on Aug-29-2010 06:06:

I play Bas guitar


Posted by EgosXII on Aug-29-2010 06:37:

i played piano for a couple years when i was a kid but hated it at the time and stopped, this is like when i was 8

tried bass for a bit in early teens, but only lasted a few months...

Now i do digital stuff, but wish i could play an actual instrument: Still, i just get in session musicians if i want really instruments now


Posted by Fledz on Aug-29-2010 06:38:

I really want to learn how to play the saxophone. Such a sexy instrument.


Posted by leph555 on Aug-29-2010 06:47:

Wanted to get a drum set when I was 12, didn't have room for it. Then I wanted to get an electric guitar when I was 14, my parents told me to get an acoustic guitar, I told them to go fuck themselves. So I pretty much missed out on the whole "rock" scene.


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-29-2010 06:59:

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Originally posted by leph555
Wanted to get a drum set when I was 12, didn't have room for it. Then I wanted to get an electric guitar when I was 14, my parents told me to get an acoustic guitar, I told them to go fuck themselves. So I pretty much missed out on the whole "rock" scene.


You were born in 1991. Sure, you missed out on the 'rock scene' but it had nothing to do with you not owning an electric guitar or a drum kit


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-29-2010 07:34:

I played the Mandolin for about 10 years and Violin for 3. I know how to play a few (relatively simple) songs on the piano but never had any formal lessons. I've also been meaning to learn how to play guitar, I even bought one but it got stolen.

I haven't played the Mandolin or the Violin in ages, I don't know if I'm still any good. I should get back into it.


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-29-2010 07:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
the Mandolin


That's really cool. I've never met anyone that can play the Mandolin. I don't think I've even seen one played live before. Maybe in a band? I dunno.


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-29-2010 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
That's really cool. I've never met anyone that can play the Mandolin. I don't think I've even seen one played live before. Maybe in a band? I dunno.

Yeah it's not very popular, I don't know anyone who plays Mandolin apart from the kids in my childhood Andalusian band.

Edit: I also play the Arabic drum or 'Derbake', but I think almost every Arab can play that one by default.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-29-2010 09:00:

i like to have a go on any instrument

been meaning to give the banjo and accordion a play need to wait for my hand to fix itself before i can proceed with my piano playing...i had a disagreement with a pallet.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Aug-29-2010 11:40:

4th grade I plated the violin. 5th through 7th grade I played the trumpet and 8th through 9th grade I played the Baritone.

Now I play the Ukulele. I have a keyboard and guitar but I suck at them.


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