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Criticism wanted for an Uplifting Trance track I just finished...(Updated)

A new track I just finished; or so I feel I am. It all sounds pretty good to me, but I like to get some outsiders point of views. Maybe anything that may catch your ear that could be adjusted. Thank you for your time as it is definitely appreciated


Update:
http://soundcloud.com/phobix/they-w...us-original-mix



EDIT: Added an updated link with some fixes I did.... I am not exactly sure if this fixed the issue. But it definitely sounds better.

cool, tune dude apart from that swing percussion at the start of the tune sounds like it doesn't belong and the key change at the end you had some sound clashs but good effort

Thanks... I tried to add some surprises in the track... instead of the same old thing... Was hoping it would make the track stand out a bit more then your typical trance track. Still have lots to learn though. I am glad you liked it

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Originally posted by Aurana Thanks... I tried to add some surprises in the track... instead of the same old thing... Was hoping it would make the track stand out a bit more then your typical trance track. Still have lots to learn though. I am glad you liked it

yeah i can see you tried to put your mark on it you need to post it in the mp forum thoe

The kick sounds funny to me. Make that snare hit harder during the break. I like that surprise at 6:15.

Don't apply so much compression. Also watch your sub level, especially on the kick and bass drop.

Gotcha... I think I need a new set of Monitors... as the ones I am currently running with have minimal low end monitoring and probably shouldn't be used for production at all to begin with. Thanks for the tip

That too much compression you got going on here got nothing to do with good / bad monitors, you will hear that on any system and headphones.

Sorry to say, its a nice tune maybe, I just cant listen to it for longer than a minute before I get ear fatigue of hell.

Well the thing is, is that I never applied a compressor to anything. So maybe the fact that I dont have one applied... it may be causing the problem. Or perhaps another plugin I have running like Soundgoodizer may be the problem. Guess I will have to fiddle around with some settings and see what happens.

Soundgoodizer is a sort of multiband-compressor / limiter and a limited version of maximus with only 4 presets. It might sound good to you in the first place, but to me it ruins more of the actual sound.

In certain parts you can hear how the break-fx, to introduce another part, is letting the music pump way too much. I would recommend to get rid off the that plugin and re-adjust some channel volumnes and if you want a sort of "mastering" on your track, rather track a combination of a some light EQ, compression and a limiter that works more transparent.

At 5:20 it sounds overcompressed.
The break part is actually pretty cool , and I like the mid bass in the song.
The impact at 2:15 really reminds me of those old trance tracks I used to listen.. You could make that impact more massive though.
The buildup to the climax is actually pretty good.. But the compression just doesn't make it sound nice anymore..
The impact at around 6:15 is pretty unique , never heard that one before.
But try to give some 'introduction' to that impact , like low passing of the pads or the percs.


So .. Other than the compression in this song.. Nothing else makes me frown.

Oh and.. Try adding a clap

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Originally posted by IceColdWater At 5:20 it sounds overcompressed.

Serious?

The whole tune is.

Just listen to the mainpart, how the strings are fighting for space as everything gets ducked by the kick.

I missed any new producing tricks or trends that this is common?

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Originally posted by Coyke Soundgoodizer is a sort of multiband-compressor / limiter and a limited version of maximus with only 4 presets. It might sound good to you in the first place, but to me it ruins more of the actual sound. In certain parts you can hear how the break-fx, to introduce another part, is letting the music pump way too much. I would recommend to get rid off the that plugin and re-adjust some channel volumnes and if you want a sort of "mastering" on your track, rather track a combination of a some light EQ, compression and a limiter that works more transparent.

Thanks for the tip... I will definitely put it to good use. Been boggled down with my other job so I havent had time the past 2 weeks to really put some solid time into production. Hopefully with your advice I can really bring out this track.

Sounds good, only one problem: It's too slow. I'd like to see a tempo increase to 145 BPM. Oh, and more variation and depth.

BTW, if you use FL, can you send me the flp? Don't worry about unsupported VSTs, i can replicate the sounds as good as I can.

What do you plan on doing with it?

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Originally posted by Aurana What do you plan on doing with it?

Bring some touch of my style, consider it a remix. Now, can I have the FLP or not? Be sure to bring me all the non-native samples.

PointPI meaning: He hears something that he finds very interesting, but can't do himself, hence he is keen on your file, to find out what it is and then copy it.

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Originally posted by Raphie PointPI meaning: He hears something that he finds very interesting, but can't do himself, hence he is keen on your file, to find out what it is and then copy it.

Just what i was thinking

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Originally posted by Andy28 Just what i was thinking

Me too

kept waiting for a main bass and kick to drop. Rather disappointing. The kick and bass platform just isn't working.

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Originally posted by pointPi Now, can I have the FLP or not?

Say please..

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Originally posted by Raphie PointPI meaning: He hears something that he finds very interesting, but can't do himself, hence he is keen on your file, to find out what it is and then copy it.

Right and wrong, replicating something that has already have been made is part of the learning process.

Although, I won't claim the work as my own, but I take for granted the track and file is shared under Creative Commons, which means I can tweak the file however I want, under the circumstances I give credit to the original author and don't use it for commercial purposes. So copying wasn't my intention, only improving.

The first main problem I have with doing this, is the fact that I don't own any VEC pack, making it hard to make a good, up-to-date drive in my track. In case you wonder, I won't buy any of them, I prefer to take a look how those samples are made.

The other main problem I have is to replicate all the score by ear, so in theory, I'll do fine with a MIDI file.

PM me, Phobix/Aurana.

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Originally posted by pointPi copying wasn't my intention, only improving.

If you feel it can be improved in anyway tell him and explain, dont ask for the guys project, bit cheeky dont you think??

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad kept waiting for a main bass and kick to drop. Rather disappointing. The kick and bass platform just isn't working.

You mean the lower end of the 2 isn't coming through correctly? Or is it something else in my production? Let me know what I you would recommend to do to fix the issue, would love any information I can get. Currently mixing with Sony MDR-V500 head phones, and my monitor set up (M-Audio AV40's) isnt fantastic. So I have a hard time monitoring at the moment. I just do the best with what I have right now.

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Originally posted by Aurana Currently mixing with Sony MDR-V500 head phones

Im using Sony MDR-V150 headphones.. Times are hard man.. Like you say though got to make do with what you got.. Try comparing it to how other tracks sound on that setup and get it as close as you can

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