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Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 12:04:

Beatport's filenames, wtf?

SO

I made my first ever purchases on Beatport today. I was super-excited that everything had gone so well, paying with PayPal and stuff.

I got to the point where I can start downloading the tracks I humbly paid for.

However, downloading the tracks, I noticed the filenames are something similar to what follows here: 48691467943123_-_track_name_original_mix.mp3

And even the ID3-tags were fucked

Artist: Real artist name
Track title: Real track title - Original Mix ('original mix' is supposed to be in brackets imo)

The site even announced it would be better if I made some changes to my Internet Explorer, so I can download the tracks proper? Who designs a web page with not having IE in mind?

And I'm not starting an F2-operation to rename my tracks.

I'm just absolutely so fucking disappointed something as stupid as this can exist at all. If your database consists of gabazazillions of mp3's, I think you should be somewhat dedicated to have the filenames say what they actually are.

I have nothing else in my mind.

This is also my third day on only Nicotinell, which is the first time since age 13. If Beatport ruins this.. (to be exact this was one of my many attempts to quit smoking)

jk it's my first day but still.


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-10-2010 12:15:

Sorry to ruin your day. That's always been the format of Beatport downloads. You can only change it by renaming the files after downloading.

It's quite easy to change a download script so it will present the files with a handy filename, but I guess they choose not to.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 12:21:

It's not completely ruined yet, I'm gonna try mp3tag on them when I get home. The problem is I --- never mind. But still.


The id3 thing was just too much to handle. I could've renamed the filenames.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 12:28:

Behold, my arse.

I may not be the most rational guy on the whole world wide web but c'mon what is this bullshit? Even I could design an uploader that fucking names the tracks correctly, squeezes the hell out of it and remasters it.




first time this much disappoint tecnhology


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-10-2010 12:31:

No you're absolutely right. Editing mp3 tags with scripts is simple as well. It should be rather straightforward but they chose to make it hard. Unforunately.


Posted by ReclusNdangrmnt on Sep-10-2010 14:43:

The Beatport Downloader App they provide allows you to modify how the tracks are named, I believe.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 15:22:

Well that's like making people sick first and then just providing the cure.

First of all I hate the fact that physical albums have sort of disappeared completely. And then when I finally get used to the fact I have to just download the music I like, it's not done properly. There's not really any other good way of getting music anymore. And I get attached to music I own. Albums are a thing that attract me as for their content and the physical form I used to be able to buy them and own them in and not just having them on an external hard drive or some other shit. At least for me getting physical records is difficult, since doing so in the backwoods of Finland can really be a bitch. But that's my problem, I'm an heroes from the countryside.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-10-2010 16:34:

buy vinyl. no id3tag there


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-10-2010 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt
The Beatport Downloader App they provide allows you to modify how the tracks are named, I believe.


yes +1, this is what i do. i don't buy 1 track at a time i usually buy 20+ so having them all correctly named in the format i want(you have a bunch of options) to all the same folder with like 2 clicks is the way it should be.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by nortek
buy vinyl. no id3tag there


As much as I respect you as a human being, I clearly stated that buying records in this part of the world (not too far away from you, where exports are not as nearly as rare as here) buying records is not too easy. Especially considering the place I live in now, there is no possibility to walk in a store and buy a record that I could listen to and enjoy it.

And don't get me wrong, I've got a good ol' pile o' cd's (I think even mentioning cd's will make me stand out in this crowd like a dick) but buying them today must concentrate on bigger labels that have the money to even press cd's or vinyl. That's my main point when considering buying downloadable songs from Beatport. Fucl.kf.

And yeah, I discovered the magical world of the Beatport Downloader. It didn't help much as it seems like it has been designed by a 15 year old Flash advertisement engineer. It did one trick though of which I was happy about.



Another thing is; my friend bought tracks from Beatport and downloaded them twice. And couldn't download them anymore. I don't know what caused this, but if it's a fact they're only downloadable for you for a limited period of time, it's not convenient. And convenient is a keyword when buying and downloading mp3's from the internet instead of going to the store to buy cd or vinyl.

I honestly thought this forum would've been the place for people who have at least some kind of antipathy against music turning to only mp3. It is the future and all, but.. I prefer it physical.

It may sound odd a 21 year old craving back cd's, but even the latest community I was a part of before this one, we had threads to show off our collections. Posting a picture of a folder in Vista ain't that sweet.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-10-2010 18:59:




i'm over it, never cared about the medium, never cared how it felt, or looked or whatever. i buy songs to listen to, i make songs to listen to, i play songs to be listened to. that's it.


lastly how did the beatport downloader not "help much", it does everything you originally asked for?


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-10-2010 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by JEO
I honestly thought this forum would've been the place for people who have at least some kind of antipathy against music turning to only mp3. It is the future and all, but.. I prefer it physical.

It may sound odd a 21 year old craving back cd's, but even the latest community I was a part of before this one, we had threads to show off our collections. Posting a picture of a folder in Vista ain't that sweet.


I am a full on luddite when it comes to this shit and much I love vinyl and hate mp3 as a medium, .wav's are a fine compromise.

Just download them and burn them to cd and make nice little labels to your hearts content. Shit, download the artwork (or your own if you must).

Don't blame beatport - their service is frankly outstanding and none of the other online providers have systems as good as theirs.

Do you have the beatport downloader properly installed? I can download the tracks as many times as I need from that.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Do you have the beatport downloader properly installed? I can download the tracks as many times as I need from that.


It was my friends case, he dl'd them at work once, the second time at home and at the third time they were nowhere visible on the downloader.

It became a movie later.


Posted by JEO on Sep-10-2010 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i'm over it, never cared about the medium, never cared how it felt, or looked or whatever.


Well yeah, I guess I'm on some kind of a transition phase then. It just feels too transparent to me after buying records for several years.

And what goes for blaming Beatport, I apologize. I said it is a way for me to get songs that I could never buy on a physical medium, and it works damn fine with this I guess.

Sorry for the rant. It spiced up my day though. (and hey, without people bitching, there is a chance things never developed as good as they are now. It's a big factor in Finland's welfare; we bitch about everything, even if it's good.)

quote:
Just download them and burn them to cd and make nice little labels to your hearts content. Shit, download the artwork (or your own if you must).


As retarded as it may sound, doing this to an unsigned fellow's songs from the forum, who had done all the artwork by himself was rather heartwarming at the time. Lightscribe made it even more cool.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-10-2010 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by JEO
As retarded as it may sound, doing this to an unsigned fellow's songs from the forum, who had done all the artwork by himself was rather heartwarming at the time. Lightscribe made it even more cool.


You know the crazy thing is, if I hear an old track and can instantly see the record sleeve in my mind, and if I see a record sleeve the tune instantly pops in to my head and I can do it with nearly every single record I own (a few thousand).

I find it way easier to burn my tracks to CD (even a bunch of them and call them something or draw something on the CD - lame as it sounds, it gives me a visual representation of the tracks.

It may not work for a lot of people though ad I really only buy what I know I'm going to play with - A lot of people buy music on a whim or something they'll maybe listen to once or twice so it's not worth it.


Posted by Kris G on Sep-13-2010 05:05:

Yep hated having to rename 50+ MP3s at a time, but the downloader is great to use, fast, and you can choose how your files are named. Well worth installing.


Posted by JEO on Sep-13-2010 06:55:

Yeah, after all I found it good too. The only minor thing was I couldn't get the mix name into brackets. I will make a proposal of adding the possibility though.

There were a lot of plusses, that I tend to ignore usually. I.e. the mp3 format was only available in constant bitrate, which will make sure it plays on nearly every car / mp3 player in the world.. They could have only had variable bit rate which according to my mathematics could save a lot of space and / or money.



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