Rice and wheat should never meet. Right?

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Posted by Lira on Sep-14-2010 02:44:

Rice and wheat should never meet. Right?

WAT

Yeah, people usually make fun of us because they say we eat everything with rice... but apparently there's some truth to this. One night, we were having dinner at Hiroyuki's when someone asked a guest if he didn't want some rice with his lasagna. The guest looked perplexed and even a bit repulsed by the offer asking if he'd really combine both meals. Puzzled and rather offended, Hiroyuki got up and asked everyone else at the table, 'Who the hell doesn't eat lasagna with rice?'. There was a clear division: if you had an unmixed Japanese background, you'd think it was okay; but, if your mother didn't have a Japanese background, you'd think we dirty Japs are all a bunch of heretics tainting the sacredness of the holy lasagna.

When a couple of friends told me that, I must've frowned so bizarrely that they busted out laughing at the face I made. I couldn't believe my ears. Rice... and lasagna? I had always taken it for granted: if you wanted to have beans, then you'd have rice; but, if you wanted wheat, that was it - you don't mix either rice or beans with pasta. And, if you do feel like having both, you don't put them on the same plate!

However, I found out that many friends of mine do actually mix rice and wheat. Mainly, those who had Japanese ancestry (though I could find some outliers among those who had a non-Japanese father), but also many of my friends without an Italian background and didn't take their pasta seriously... and would also, on their part, cook spaghetti in a very peculiar way. I just asked my fiancée, and she confirmed that she used to feel there was something missing in my family's Sunday lunch (when she would usually come over) because there was no rice. There was just spaghetti, frittata, gnocchi, or lasagna for the main course (and salad and other non-grainy things on the side) and that was it. No one ever minded, and she never complained because she noticed people outside her household rarely had these meals with rice, so she never said a word. I was flabbergasted. After all these years, who'd a thunk?

The question here is: Would you have pasta with rice? Or, for that matter, with beans? Would you (as my fiancée does) consider pasta to be the side dish? If you would, what's your family background?

Posted by Sushipunk on Sep-14-2010 02:52:

In order:

I wouldn't have rice with lasagne. Just seems odd, and kind of unnecessary - Lasagne is pretty much a meal in itself, just to have with salad or something light. I think rice might be a bit too heavy or something.

I would have rice with beans, that makes perfect sense.

I don't really consider pasta to be a side dish, it's normally just served with everything else.

I'm Australian, and so are my parents and grandparents. Way back (no idea how many generations) our background is English, Scottish, French and German.

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-14-2010 02:52:

I didn't bother reading most of your post, but I don't mix rice and pasta. Starch on top of starch doesn't make sense. It be like putting french fries in between two slices of bread. If your at a buffet or thanksgiving there is no harm if both rice and pasta found its way on to your dish but I wouldn't make a meal that incorporated the two together.

Posted by Lira on Sep-14-2010 02:53:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
I didn't bother reading most of your post, but I don't mix rice and pasta. Starch on top of starch doesn't make sense. It be like putting french fries in between two slices of bread.

That's exactly how I feel about it, but isn't your family Italian too?

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Originally posted by Sushipunk
I don't really consider pasta to be a side dish, it's normally just served with everything else.

So you also agree with igk about other sorts of pasta?

Posted by Jake Benson on Sep-14-2010 03:01:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
I didn't bother reading most of your post,.

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-14-2010 03:03:

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Originally posted by Lira
That's exactly how I feel about it, but isn't your family Italian too?

So you also agree with igk about other sorts of pasta?

Yes, I'm of Italian decent? I'm told Italians from Italy are different than the American Italian stereo type, with a diet consisting more of seafood. Personally I've been trying to limit my intake of all types of refined starches such as rice, pasta, bread, etc

Posted by Sushipunk on Sep-14-2010 03:05:

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Originally posted by Lira
So you also agree with igk about other sorts of pasta?

Yeah, pretty much. I can't remember ever making a meal, or being served one, that had both rice and pasta in it. Unless, like IGK said, it's a feast/buffet type deal, but in a case like that all the meals are pretty much side dishes, and you just help yourself to whatever you feel like. Though I'm still not sure even then if I'd end up with both rice and pasta at the same time

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-14-2010 03:21:

buffets sicken me for this reason. i can only imagine what its like to work in these places, watching fat ppl getting fatter. I appreciate the Japanese. The way they use chopsticks that slow you down and their small courses.

Posted by Lira on Sep-14-2010 03:33:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
buffets sicken me for this reason. i can only imagine what its like to work in these places, watching fat ppl getting fatter. I appreciate the Japanese. The way they use chopsticks that slow you down and their small courses.

Actually, food is expensive there. You try and pig it out when you have to pay one dollar for a single banana

Eating out there was well frustrating because the meals were tiny! I must've lost a pound or two there, and I drank litres of soft drink every day

Posted by bas on Sep-14-2010 03:44:

That's just way too much starch for one meal.

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-14-2010 03:50:

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Originally posted by Lira
Actually, food is expensive there. You try and pig it out when you have to pay one dollar for a single banana

Eating out there was well frustrating because the meals were tiny! I must've lost a pound or two there, and I drank litres of soft drink every day

most ppl are like dogs. put them in front of a buffet and they can't stop eating. it becomes a mechanical process of shoveling food into their mouthes.

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Sep-14-2010 04:39:

way too many words you mean.. i just saw the picture and thats it.

Posted by IceColdWater on Sep-14-2010 04:42:

The rice totally spoiled the picture.
WAT.

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Sep-14-2010 05:27:

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Originally posted by IceColdWater
The rice totally spoiled the picture.
WAT.

shut up. no one asked your opinion douche.

Posted by Jake Benson on Sep-14-2010 05:33:

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
shut up. no one asked your opinion douche.

Damn, you sound like me during the first half of the day.