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Posted by Dj Nacht on Sep-18-2010 04:13:

Vinyl Not Slipping

Gear = Technics 1200mk2 with Shure M447 and stanton slipmat.

Now some of my vinyl slips nicely without even affecting the strobe lights which is perfect. A lot of my vinyl really doesn't want to slip though! Sometimes the A will slip but not the B side or vice versa! Wtf this is extremely annoying when trying to mix. I don't like having to put pressure on the platter because its probably wearing out my motor. Does anyone else understand whats happening here? Is the vinyl warped and causing that? Is it dirty? Fak!


Posted by djsaekone on Sep-18-2010 04:55:

yeah the vinyl is prob warped. like bent upward on side A, but on Side B its bent downward. That shit sux even worse when your a scratch dj!


Posted by PivotTechno on Sep-18-2010 14:11:

Putting pressure on the platter won't harm the motor of your 1200 - if that was the case, then turntablists would be going through new decks on a monthly basis.

Heavier (and yes, sometimes warped) pressings often won't slip as easily under your fingers. Adjust the weight of your pressure accordingly and you'll be fine.

If it's really an ongoing point of contention, buy a pair of Phonomat Rhythmats - you'll never want for a better pair of slipmats.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Sep-18-2010 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Putting pressure on the platter won't harm the motor of your 1200 - if that was the case, then turntablists would be going through new decks on a monthly basis.

Heavier (and yes, sometimes warped) pressings often won't slip as easily under your fingers. Adjust the weight of your pressure accordingly and you'll be fine.

If it's really an ongoing point of contention, buy a pair of Phonomat Rhythmats - you'll never want for a better pair of slipmats.


funny how you mention them, in the process of having custom mats done by them. Do you think they use the same material for custom as they do rhythmats?


Posted by PivotTechno on Sep-18-2010 19:43:

Do you mean custom, as in custom graphics on the mat? They really only make two kinds afaik - the Phonomat, which is a thicker, audiophile version, and the aforementioned Rhythmat. If you told them it's for DJing, I imagine you'll be getting the latter of the two.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Sep-18-2010 20:23:

It will definately be the DJ'ing ones. Really slow response time from them though


Posted by IL Duce on Sep-18-2010 20:31:

for now you can try using one of the plastic covers that your record comes in...cut it to fit your platter and profit.

it is ok as a temporary solution, but it still won't be as good as a proper slipmat.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Sep-18-2010 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by IL Duce
for now you can try using one of the plastic covers that your record comes in...cut it to fit your platter and profit.

it is ok as a temporary solution, but it still won't be as good as a proper slipmat.


Not really sure if it will help but ill try it. Some vinyl slip like butter and some are just warped to shit I guess.


Posted by IL Duce on Sep-18-2010 21:07:

try it. like i said, it is not a permanent solution but can work....stack 2 records on top of each other for maximum powa


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-18-2010 21:14:

Try checking the center hole as well, some are too tight. Don't bore them out and be careful but the nib of a metal pen can just loosen it slightly.

I've tried em all over the years and I find the best mats are the technics ones (purple logo) with the plastic slip underneath. Perfect balance of grip and slide.....easy to find anywhere as well.


Posted by Stu Cox on Sep-20-2010 06:05:

Even most warped records should be able to slip pretty perfectly on a 1200, unless the motor's getting a bit old and worn out? If so it might not have as much torque.

Might be pointing out the obvious here, but as a general rule to be on the safe side: don't keep your vinyl near a radiator or anything else which can heat them up too much as that's often when they start to warp.

As previously mentioned - check the hole isn't too tight but otherwise try some different slipmats. Thinner slipmats tend to be better... I used to use a pair of pretty plain really thin Technics ones (the ones with the platter design) and they were great.

One trick some people use is cutting out a platter-sized circle from a plastic bag (the very thin cheap polythene kind you get free at supermarkets) and putting that under your slipmat.


Posted by djsaekone on Sep-20-2010 06:47:

SOMETIMES if the hole on the record is too big...try to surround the hole with small pieces of paper to give it a tighter fit, but if your record is warped...i dont think u can really do much.

back in the day i tried a bunch of stuff to get it to 'warp back into shape'....nothing really worked.


Posted by n3lly on Sep-20-2010 17:28:

To tighten the hole up put a few bits of tape over the hole and poke a small hole through it with a pen. Gently squeeze the hole down on the pin which should give a tighter fit.

But we're not trying to achieve this here.

Dj with warped records, it'll make you a better dj when you dj with normal ones in the future.

Even better, dj with warped records on belt drives.

Warped belt drive tuntabling = King!


Posted by Dj Nacht on Sep-21-2010 05:14:

Some cool advice here..

The motor should be fine since some records slip like butter. Ill see if I can find a guide on how to double check that...



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