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universities in england...

alright, quick question, i won't bother really explaining....

i might transfer to a university in england
i have good grades (3.847 GPA on the USA system)
i'm majoring in Computer Science and Information Studies, which for anyone who doesn't know means Programming and Networking
i would like to go to a GOOD school (thats good in computers too), but quite frankly i don't know shit about english universities
london area would be prefered i guess
i'm entering my second year now here in the USA, and i have 45 hours out of the way (one semester ahead already)

now, i figure i would ask here because i have no idea where to look online, a lot of TA's are also computer people so they might be at some of these schools and can give me some inside info

any info, any reply, any link in a right direction is greatly appricated! thank you!

You could try www.ucas.com

UCAS is England's national university service type people. Virtually everyone goes through UCAS, so I'm sure they could answer your questions.

England is a good place to study because education here is completely free, unlike the US. Students just need to pay for their accommodation and living costs out of their own pocket, most people get a bank loan, which for students gives a decent rate.

Scotland however is even better for studying. In Scotland, like it was in England for many years until a couple of years ago, not only is University free, but you get a grant of about �3000 - 4000, which you never have to pay back. It's yours. Most students get a loan on top of this anyway.

Coming from the US you might not get a grant if you were to study somewhere like Scotland, and you might have to pay. I'm not sure what the deal is, maybe you will get free education if you're living in the UK and paying taxes I guess.

UCAS is a good place to start looking though.

Re: universities in england...

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin london area would be prefered i guess

just a word of warning about going to a london university. Its probably the most expensive part of england to live in. So if you hav a lot of cash behind you then great, if not then just keep in mind its rather pricey.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike just a word of warning about going to a london university. Its probably the most expensive part of england to live in. So if you hav a lot of cash behind you then great, if not then just keep in mind its rather pricey.

well there is another option...my girl will be studying in london starting oct 2003, so if we lived together that would cut down the costs

but the university is more important to me than the money or location, just as long as its not TOO far from london



btw alex, the ucas site keeps throwing me in circles...the only real ratings i was able to find on schools where from 1994, and i think i need a bit more recent to decide which school i should go to for computers...i just don't really understand your education system, so i'm really confused, but thanks anyway...i'm going to call my girl tomorrow and talk to her about it, she probably knows some good info

Newcastle!

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Originally posted by evil_bastard You could try www.ucas.com UCAS is England's national university service type people. Virtually everyone goes through UCAS, so I'm sure they could answer your questions. England is a good place to study because education here is completely free, unlike the US. Students just need to pay for their accommodation and living costs out of their own pocket, most people get a bank loan, which for students gives a decent rate. Scotland however is even better for studying. In Scotland, like it was in England for many years until a couple of years ago, not only is University free, but you get a grant of about �3000 - 4000, which you never have to pay back. It's yours. Most students get a loan on top of this anyway. Coming from the US you might not get a grant if you were to study somewhere like Scotland, and you might have to pay. I'm not sure what the deal is, maybe you will get free education if you're living in the UK and paying taxes I guess. UCAS is a good place to start looking though.

Education here IS NOT completely free. We have to pay tuition fees of just over �1000 ($1400) EACH year.

Anbd thats for UK students.

For higher profile courses, eg Medicine, Law, Architecture, Finance, the fees are INCREASED for foreign students. and guess what? They're a fucking joke.

we're talking approximately �20,000 PER YEAR! (almost $30,000)

and thats for almost evey university. I don't know about the charges for programming, but they'd be very similar.

good uniniversity's for Computing and stuff are:

Imperial College
UCL (University College of London)
London University

Good luck persuading your parents to pay the fees...

Or u could apply for a scholarship... That will let you bypass the tuition fees.

Cost of living in London is only high if you're are looking to live privately i.e rent a house out that is not owned by the university.

If u rent a room/apartment that is owned by the Uni, the price ranges from �75 - 110 per week, and thats the same, wherever u go. Cos the prices are set by Ucas, or the government, I think.

For scores etc on Uni's You can request Last years results from ucas. I think there's an address or something where u can ask for one to be sent to u.

thanks for the info! i'll request those scores (lets just hope i can find it on the site)

about the money, i hope i can get a scholarship! dunno, we'll see what happens....first step, find out which schools i would even be intrested in

again, major thanks

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Originally posted by dj_mdma If u rent a room/apartment that is owned by the Uni, the price ranges from �75 - 110 per week, and thats the same, wherever u go. Cos the prices are set by Ucas, or the government, I think.

my halls at leeds uni was only something like �30 a week and liven privatley is costing me �48.50 a week, there are some statistics somewhere showing cost of student living compared from town to town (and city to city!)

but whatever u do, don't rent privately in London! the students next door to me are currently paying...

�1300 PER MONTH for a 3 bedroom terrace house in Twickenham!

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Originally posted by dj_mdma but whatever u do, don't rent privately in London! the students next door to me are currently paying... �1300 PER MONTH for a 3 bedroom terrace house in Twickenham!

thats like half a years rent for me.......

i never knew london was that expensive

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Originally posted by dj_mdma but whatever u do, don't rent privately in London! the students next door to me are currently paying... �1300 PER MONTH for a 3 bedroom terrace house in Twickenham!

lol...no no, if i were to live in london it would DEFINANTLY be with the uni...internet connection

try Amsterdam you dufess

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus try Amsterdam you dufess

you see...i would, i really would love to live in holland, but there is a very special girl who i happen to be in love with who lives in england

but if i transfer to england, then i'll still be closer to holland than before

Go to scotland maybe the schools are cheaper over there


for my schooling studying graphic design I was considering either :
usa ( to expensive )
japan ( not fluent enough to pass the governement 3000 kanji character test )
France ( only 20 seats available per 500 or so demands )
Belgium ( still thinking about it )
UK ( pretty prestigious schools but murdering prices )
and last which I'm gonna do
Switzerland ( cheap school, great level , love the country and billions of other reasons)

university is so annoying to find the right one at the right place right now right cost etc etc


I know I'm gonna sound like a bit of a wanker, but search your info online a little better before making a move ... which I'm sure you are doing ....


KEEP COURAGE

see the main reason why i want to move to england is because of a special girl...and even if it doesn't work out, i'll still have a kickass education to fall back on

i love england anyway, so its just an added bonus that i get to be there, money sucks, but hopefully i'm smart and poor enough to get scholarships and financial aid

yeah, i've been killing myself looking for info online, but it'll all be worth it

And then we can PARTY TOGETHER!!

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Originally posted by dj_mdma And then we can PARTY TOGETHER!!

hell yeah!!!

i'm going to be doing a semester abroad in london for the summer of 2003, well just for 4 weeks because its the cheapest, plus that means i can spend more time with my girl! and it'll be from the beginning of may to the beginning of june, which means i'll have another 3 more months off! and my plan is to definantly make another trip to berlin in july

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Originally posted by dj_mdma Education here IS NOT completely free.

Heh, yeah I forgot, it is for me though My brother is at Cambridge University and he isn't paying a penny. All he pays is accommodation

For most people though it's still a lot cheaper than some of Europe and most of the US.

Come to the North of England, more parties than the South of England and Scotland, and it is twenty times cheaper than in London (and that's not an exaggeration!).

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Originally posted by evil_bastard Come to the North of England, more parties than the South of England and Scotland, and it is twenty times cheaper than in London (and that's not an exaggeration!).

so i've heard from several people, but going to north england would be almost as pointless as transfering to germany or holland or somewhere we'll see what happens, i've got a year

If your bird is in London and you need to be near there, you could try one of the Unis not so far away. As far as I know, there are quite a few places 50 miles or so from London, where the cost of living is a lot less.

All British University and College websites end in .ac.uk not .co.uk so you can try trawling through some sites by guessing their address. Also, you could try checking out www.push.co.uk which gives some details, as well as a list of all the Unis.

how does admission look like. Im refering to tests grades etc.? Will the TOEFL test do it? or do i need SAT tests as well..like in the USA. Ive contacted a few universities and havent recieved any application material yet..

We'll see

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Originally posted by TranceGiant how does admission look like. Im refering to tests grades etc.? Will the TOEFL test do it? or do i need SAT tests as well..like in the USA. Ive contacted a few universities and havent recieved any application material yet.. We'll see

you and me need to talk more often! looks like you know what you're doing! help me out

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