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Kid Cudi rips off Robert Miles

You would think he would try to make this slightly less obvious. Why do so many artists insist on blatantly stealing great music?

The Deadmau5 Event Horizon - the point an artist reaches where success becomes so self-propagating that one no longer has to try to maintain it and actually stops trying beyond their fundamental skill level.

Yeah I've heard this before at work. I started laughing my ass off.

It's just on a mixtape, not off an album, as far as I remember. All the songs on it were just him rapping over other instrumentals.

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Originally posted by Lews It's just on a mixtape, not off an album, as far as I remember. All the songs on it were just him rapping over other instrumentals.

I see, that makes more sense. I just heard it being like

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Originally posted by Lews Yeah I've heard this before at work. I started laughing my ass off. It's just on a mixtape, not off an album, as far as I remember. All the songs on it were just him rapping over other instrumentals.

That's awful. It reminds me of some guy who tried to rap to "Ghosts n Stuff" - truly unlistenable. Danger Mouse really had magic in a bottle with the Grey Album. That was high art - what should be done in both homage to the original material and recognition of a new music form.

When you have assholes who run through the complete chorus of Joni Mitchel's "Big Yellow Taxi", preempting that song's musicality with drivel, you're bound to get shit like this, too.

He's not the first rapper to sample Children, and this isn't the worst I've ever heard.

I don't see the problem, anyway. Everyone samples, especially in hip-hop. Does it suddenly become unacceptable when it's one of your childhood favourites being looped?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't see the problem, anyway. Everyone samples, especially in hip-hop. Does it suddenly become unacceptable when it's one of your childhood favourites being looped?

Just speaking for myself - it's not my favorite song and wasn't, when it first came out. I liked it, but it's not anything that's being trampled on. My problem is with the reliance on excessive looping. It just sounds cheap, but a lot of that is my own ego super-imposing a standard for production value.

I've tried to like songs which use wholesale looping and I can't. When I can hear the lyrics put to better music in my head, I don't think it will ever do to just hear them set to something against which they just sound atypical.

Hip-hop is based on looping. The whole thing started when DJs began looping the bars of funk drums that made people dance the most. If you don't like a looped sample then you don't like hip-hop.

This is not the greatest piece of sampling in the world, but the language of "ripping off" and "blatantly stealing" suggests that Kid Cudi has done something unacceptable or immoral, as opposed to a slightly shoddy job.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Hip-hop is based on looping. The whole thing started when DJs began looping the bars of funk drums that made people dance the most. If you don't like a looped sample then you don't like hip-hop. This is not the greatest piece of sampling in the world, but the language of "ripping off" and "blatantly stealing" suggests that Kid Cudi has done something unacceptable or immoral, as opposed to a slightly shoddy job.

Initially I thought this was an album production where the beat was a bad reproduction of Children passed off as their own work, not a standard beat with Children's melody being looped. I didn't know it was just a mixtape track among various other looped instrumentals. My mistake.

not really a ripoff, theres this same exact preset in sylenth..

wow, not much in music I hate as much as lyrics like these

and I'm not even anti-drugs

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Originally posted by sako487 not really a ripoff, theres this same exact preset in sylenth..

The same melody and chords must be a pure coincidence too.

join the club.

lol @ jackie chain

Re: Kid Cudi rips off Robert Miles

no offense homie but hiphop producers sample a lot from electronica. I dont consider it a ripoff like elec messing with tronica

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Originally posted by Mattinsanity no offense homie but hiphop producers sample a lot from electronica. I dont consider it a ripoff like elec messing with tronica

no offense nig, but this was already stated

I was under the impression Children was considered the worst sin against trance music (I still like it). And more on topic, I would take more offense with this if Children was the focus of the song, but as it is, it's more in the background, with all the attention on the vocals. So, not a big deal to me.

oh for fucks sake. everyone uses their influences in one way or another when they're artists. every damn artist from the past to today works off influences, some incorporate it into their music in a very obvious way

we can't all reinvent the fucking wheel of music and be prodigies that are just at the pinnacle of originality. everyone works off of others ideas

also go to your record store, listen to some records, i'm pretty sure you'll hear hip hop sampled 90% of the music you've heard in your life. but just because its robert miles a thread pops up.

i'll make a version of this thread:

omfg i can't believe these ******s would use something as awesome as ramsey lewis 'if loving you is wrong, i don't want to be right'. how fucking dare them! how dare hip hop artists sample music! OMGGGG. i'm a huge fan of ramsey lewis so now i'll be angry!!!!



ARGH!

god this forum has fallen off the map of even a decent amount of respect for music. MUSIC. now it's just people bitching and bitching. i have a hard time believing many here actually understands the definition of music. i like you zip, i apologizing for coming off heated but, it just angers me. love you :* x0x0

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Originally posted by jupiterone

Woah, bro. Easy there, tiger. Read what I wrote in response to Jack's post, I retract my statement about "ripping Robert Miles off". It was obviously a harmless sampling of his track, not stealing. I'm well aware that people reuse and sample other artists work, but I mistook the track in the OP as a shameless copy of Children's melody.

"Good artists borrow, great artists steal", right?

okay i admit that was kind of heated

but you can't blame me, i was watching rocky 1 when i posted that...

i don't think cudi did it that blatantly though, theres far worse out there

As it's just off a mixtape I really have no problem with it. Not the best in the world, but it makes me laugh since it's fucking Children lol.

lol kid cudi was one of two headliners (the other was some emo band) at my uni's annual fall semester kickoff festival.


And to be fair, Robert Miles being "great" is debatable.

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Originally posted by Scrittah I was under the impression Children was considered the worst sin against trance music (I still like it). And more on topic, I would take more offense with this if Children was the focus of the song, but as it is, it's more in the background, with all the attention on the vocals. So, not a big deal to me.

i will rip off a hit and then i'll add some crap vocals and earn around 1 million. I'll try too to rip one of the most famous tracks so all the people can now that i suck.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i will rip off a hit and then i'll add some crap vocals and earn around 1 million. I'll try too to rip one of the most famous tracks so all the people can now that i suck.

Yeah, you do that...

now everybody knows i feel better

This is one song when I dj hip-hop I tend to avoid.

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