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had to post this news story.

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A 19-year-old former Palmetto High School student who was left a quadriplegic after a botched home invasion robbery last year, was transported from a Miami care facility to the Manatee County jail Tuesday for his first-degree murder trial. Ta Heem Blake, who was 17-year-old foster child at the time of the slaying, was left paralyzed after one of the residents fired back. The bullet tore through his spine. Unable to move from the neck down, he was left at the scene with an assault-style SKS rifle lying next to him, according to authorities. Bradenton Police Department investigators say Blake shot and killed Maria Lerma, 55, after he and another former Palmetto High student, Marquis Sanders, broke into her Bradenton home in the 900 block of 25th Street East through a sliding glass door.

read the rest here. including pics.


http://www.bradenton.com/2010/09/29...ransported.html

I was going to ask what the point of posting this was, but I guess it will make some interesting discussion.

He broke into some peoples house, and shot a person. He was shot by a resident of the house, through the spine, and now he's a State Grown Vegetable.

Probably about time for our quarterly "COR gun-control debate"

Should the perpetrator have had the right to own an "assault-style SKS rifle"? Should one of the residents have the right to own a handgun to fire back?

You decide

And keep the racist shit to a minimum, please.

Anyon

If the country had laws against guns, chances are extremely high that neither of them would have had a gun. Had they not had, not just a gun but a fucking assault rifle, they probably wouldn't have broken into the home while someone was there.

Was the person right to defend themselves and shoot back? Yes.
Does that warrant the need for guns? Absolutely not. Anyone who doesn't agree needs to go read previous threads because the evidence is stacked way against them.

Oh and Karma doesn't exist.

nah he did the right thing. shoot em up.

The worst part about this is the residents of the state of Florida are going to have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, and likely into the millions, for this crippled retard's special needs treatment in a penitentiary.

Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by Fledz If the country had laws against guns, chances are extremely high that neither of them would have had a gun.

That.

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Originally posted by UWM The worst part about this is the residents of the state of Florida are going to have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, and likely into the millions, for this crippled retard's special needs treatment in a penitentiary.

do you expect anything less from Florida....

the most ass-backwards state in the nation

Bradenton might just be the worst place in the continental US.

Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by Fledz If the country had laws against guns, chances are extremely high that neither of them would have had a gun.

do you think the 17 year old foster child legally got an assault rifle in the first place?

karma at its best

Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by Fledz Oh and Karma doesn't exist.

moron

Re: Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by JD8180 do you think the 17 year old foster child legally got an assault rifle in the first place?

Precisely. Had guns been outlawed, it would be way harder for this kid to get it. This is the problem with the US (and Brazil, for that matter). It's an arms race. People arm themselves to their teeth because they're afraid they may be attacked, they get mugged (yeah, not everyone is a superhero and dodges assaults simply because they carry a gun) and their super doper gun is nicked by criminals who are then better prepared to approach people who hold guns...

I would have seriously had to contemplate not putting a bullet in the guy's head after hitting him in the spine. "Tell me why I shouldn't blow your brains out?"

Re: Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by JD8180 do you think the 17 year old foster child legally got an assault rifle in the first place?

You're missing the point completely, son.
The rifle was more than likely stolen from someone who had purchased it legally. Do you think America is filled with weapon dealers that sit around on youtube watching "how to make your own ak"-videos?

There might be weapons that are smuggled in, but they are far outnumbered by weapons that have once been owned legally.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin I would have seriously had to contemplate not putting a bullet in the guy's head after hitting him in the spine. "Tell me why I shouldn't blow your brains out?"

Because that first shot would be in self defence, the second one would probably get you jail time since you are basically executing the bastard. Stupid i know but thats how the law works over there i hear.

It's not jail rape, when you can't feel your ass.

"Blake requires a certified nursing assistant to care for him 24 hours a day. The sheriff�s office has contracted nursing services for Blake that cost on an average about $25 per hour, said Carmen Van Leeuwen, director of nursing at the jail."

Hey at least that nursing assistant is making bank...gotta keep the Florida economy going somehow...

Re: Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by JD8180 do you think the 17 year old foster child legally got an assault rifle in the first place?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi You're missing the point completely, son. The rifle was more than likely stolen from someone who had purchased it legally. Do you think America is filled with weapon dealers that sit around on youtube watching "how to make your own ak"-videos? There might be weapons that are smuggled in, but they are far outnumbered by weapons that have once been owned legally.

Precisely.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi moron

Yes, let's all believe in something fabricated by the human mind.

Re: Re: Re: Anyon

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Originally posted by dj_alfi You're missing the point completely, son. The rifle was more than likely stolen from someone who had purchased it legally. Do you think America is filled with weapon dealers that sit around on youtube watching "how to make your own ak"-videos? There might be weapons that are smuggled in, but they are far outnumbered by weapons that have once been owned legally.

you're probably right, I'm just trying to stir up some topics that come to my head. I really don't know any facts/statistics in gun-related crimes between countries that allow guns opposed to those that don't.

but what if guns are outlawed? I know this kid most likely isn't part of any sort of organized crime ring dealing with smuggling in weapons and all of that, but don't you think this same kid (who is obviously willing enough to rob a house and shoot innocent people) wouldn't mind somehow (illegally) obtaining a gun?

sure, it may be a bit harder, but I'm sure it's nowhere near impossible. (again, I have no idea how things are, say in countries that have had guns outlawed before)

The point being if you stop the supply of guns it will be harder for everyone to get their hands on them...including criminals.

prisoner's dilemma.

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Originally posted by JD8180 you're probably right, I'm just trying to stir up some topics that come to my head. I really don't know any facts/statistics in gun-related crimes between countries that allow guns opposed to those that don't. but what if guns are outlawed? I know this kid most likely isn't part of any sort of organized crime ring dealing with smuggling in weapons and all of that, but don't you think this same kid (who is obviously willing enough to rob a house and shoot innocent people) wouldn't mind somehow (illegally) obtaining a gun? sure, it may be a bit harder, but I'm sure it's nowhere near impossible. (again, I have no idea how things are, say in countries that have had guns outlawed before)

There's a tonne of statistics which support the prohibition of guns.

From a practical view using Sydney as an example, unless you knew the right people to go through and then had enough money to actually pay for a gun, chances are that one of the first people you'd come across while asking would be an undercover Federal Police agent.

Kind of off-putting for most of the population.

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Originally posted by Fledz There's a tonne of statistics which support the prohibition of guns. From a practical view using Sydney as an example, unless you knew the right people to go through and then had enough money to actually pay for a gun, chances are that one of the first people you'd come across while asking would be an undercover Federal Police agent. Kind of off-putting for most of the population.

In America, gun prohibition is politically impossible. Here, a large proportion of people believe in a constitutional, non-negotiable right to own a gun. And if the government ever tried to outlaw guns, they'd have to confiscate over 200 million guns by the FBI's own estimates. It would essentially reverse over 200 years of legal precedent. It would be political suicide. That's not happening.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin In America, gun prohibition is politically impossible. Here, a large proportion of people believe in a constitutional, non-negotiable right to own a gun. And if the government ever tried to outlaw guns, they'd have to confiscate over 200 million guns by the FBI's own estimates. It would essentially reverse over 200 years of legal precedent. It would be political suicide. That's not happening.

And that's why democracy is far from perfect

It's sad that there probably isn't a better form of government...

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