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If we seek Equality, why do Men/Women Compete Seperately in the Olympics?

I'm writing a 450-600 page on this subject. It will get me my doctorate in sociology.

Why do we bother with this alt?

bullshit

please explain your positions in more detail.

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Originally posted by Beats and Beeps please explain your positions in more detail.

Please get run over by a pack of bewildered elephants.

mean thoughts are not healthy.

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Re: If we seek Equality, why do Men/Women Compete Seperately in the Olympics?

If women want equality, then why do they enjoy getting in for free at clubs? I never hear them complain when something is in their favor.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson If women want equality, then why do they enjoy getting in for free at clubs? I never hear them complain when something is in their favor.

I once heard a feminist say that in the interests of equality, 60% of people in a particular role (think it was the board of directors of a large company or something) should be female.

Because they'd want to copy the guys & take their shirts off after scoring a goal in football.

Troll!

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Originally posted by Beats and Beeps mean thoughts are not healthy.

Have your doctoral studies in Sociology taught you this?

Because most men, unlike you, are physically stronger than most women.

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Originally posted by DancingMonkey Because most men, unlike you, are physically stronger than most women.

This.

Equality doesn't mean everything has to be the same for everyone. It would be completely moronic to ignore the obvious differences between men and women, both physically and mentally.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson If women want equality, then why do they enjoy getting in for free at clubs? I never hear them complain when something is in their favor.

Men don't complain when they get paid more than women. They don't complain when they can get ready in 15 minutes because it's socially acceptable. Men don't complain etc. etc. etc.

Of course people aren't going to complain when things are in their favor. It's stupid to even suggest that they should. Should they refuse to go to that bar/club etc. because they will get in free?

Oh, and need I remind you that the brains behind those marketing schemes are almost always men... so if you're the ones handing out the privilege, don't complain about it. It's like giving an extra cookie to someone and then whining that they got an extra cookie.

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Originally posted by Theresa This. Equality doesn't mean everything has to be the same for everyone. It would be completely moronic to ignore the obvious differences between men and women, both physically and mentally.

You can just as well have a separate marathon for etheopians because they have more stamina. Separate chess leagues for Russians and so on. Where does it end?

You can just as well say that because there are obvious differences between Federer and the rest of the world, he should get his own tennis league just to give others a shot. Why is gender so significantly different?

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Men don't complain when they get paid more than women. They don't complain when they can get ready in 15 minutes because it's socially acceptable. Men don't complain etc. etc. etc.

A lot of them do, and none of them will say that this makes things some-how 'fair'.

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Of course people aren't going to complain when things are in their favor. It's stupid to even suggest that they should. Should they refuse to go to that bar/club etc. because they will get in free?

The issue is more that at those points, the debate on aequality suddenly ends.

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Oh, and need I remind you that the brains behind those marketing schemes are almost always men... so if you're the ones handing out the privilege, don't complain about it. It's like giving an extra cookie to someone and then whining that they got an extra cookie.

Doesn't be so schizmatic. I am not responsible for the acts of other people who just happen to also be men if I didn't commit those acts. Each man, like each woman, is an individual being and individually responsible.

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Originally posted by kuollutrunkkau5 You can just as well have a separate marathon for etheopians because they have more stamina. Separate chess leagues for Russians and so on. Where does it end? You can just as well say that because there are obvious differences between Federer and the rest of the world, he should get his own tennis league just to give others a shot. Why is gender so significantly different?

This is the most idiotic thing I've read all week. Congratulations on either being a successful troll or having the intelligence of a stack of bricks.

im with fledz, that's a pretty dumb comment.

Re: If we seek Equality, why do Men/Women Compete Seperately in the Olympics?

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Originally posted by Beats and Beeps I'm writing a 450-600 page on this subject. It will get me my doctorate in sociology.

Is this really an original work?

Interesting topic but I'm wondering what you angle on this is, and how it opposes feminist, chauvanist, PC and traditionalist views and presents a new idea.

Hey if you love it more the power to you on that.

Personally it is clear cut that men have a higher capacity for muscle strength (thus are better atheletes at the highest levels)

Due to this women can't qualify for mens events at that level, and so would't be in the Olympics, it is a pretty clear issue here, in that the Olympics is there to promote friendly competetion for both men and women, not just men.

All you would have is like some skaters and syncronized swimmers and gymnasts.

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Originally posted by Theresa Equality doesn't mean everything has to be the same for everyone. It would be completely moronic to ignore the obvious differences between men and women, both physically and mentally.

some pearlers from Theresa, who used to argue the complete opposite and ignore the obvious differneces between men and women, both physically and mentally:

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Originally posted by Theresa You are making the assumption that women are slower and weaker physically

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Originally posted by Theresa women are equally able to be stronger and faster than men, as men are to women

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Originally posted by Theresa The fact remains that women are equally abled physically.

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Originally posted by Theresa So this whole "men are physically superior" thing is bullshit.

The reason (apparently) why women can't compete at the same level as male athletes

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Originally posted by Theresa The ONLY reason why women are not typically high competition when it comes to physicality is simply because it has only been more recently that women have even been socially accepted to do these things, and is still seen as "unladylike". When trained, women can do just as much as men.

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Originally posted by Theresa I don't think the training they get is necessarily worse in all cases, (however, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't as good,) but the problem lies, I think, more in the availabilty and opportunity for women to get further training.

Drugs and genetic engineering are the great equalizers

She actually said that before?

In a general sense, men are physically superior than women. That's evolutionary fact. Hell, I can't remember the last time I heard someone argue that because it's nothing to do with any superiority complex or patriarchal upbringing, it's just evident from a biological viewpoint that we're built differently to suit a purpose.

Wow, they just hand out doctorates to anyone over there, huh?

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Originally posted by Chimney Wow, they just hand out doctorates to anyone over there, huh?

Pretty sure that guy is not a PhD candidate but a shitty troll. Didn't he also make this thread some days ago where he claimed to be an astrophysicist and was too stupid to input a simple logarithm into his calculator?

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