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was in TO this past weekend.. back at work now, figured I'd fill everyone in on my weekend.

*fukhouse* on friday was pretty decent even though Morgan Page put me to sleep, but the rest was good. Finally found the back room at systems (after 2 years of looking for it.. guess its not always opened). The place was full of techno heads it was great.

for saturday night, the plan was originally to check out the Dose party at the warehouse, instead of buying tickets, we did the mistake of relying on a friend who knows a DJ that spins at the Acid Lounge who was suppost to get us on the guestlist for the dose party. obviously that didnt' work out.

Keeping it short, I figured that Nic's friend must of put us on Guv's list instead, so we walked a few feet to the guv lineup and sure enough there was no problem there.

The weirdness starts here, me and and my 3 friends from TO get in fine, but the bouncer stops my friend from mtl saying, sorry you can't get in, we have a dress code here........ WTF, I've been to guv litterally dozens of time, and never ONCE has teh bouncer ever said that to me or anyone I was with.

fyi, my friend was dressed with proper runners, an italian team soccer jersy and (nice) track pants, he's an mtl afterhour regular and looks like he belongs. Personally, I had dirty runners, a tee shirt and very wrinkled nylon pants (no problem there).. other 3 people were dressed slightly more casual

All along the bouncer was very polite about all this, he said to my friend to get a change of pants and come see him directly, usually that wouldnt be a problem, but when your a guy and on a road trip, you don't necessarly think of these things and pack very lightly, so that was the end of the night. (ended up playnig capcom vs. snk2 on ps2 until the wee hours)

finally, I dont what the fuck was going on, but HOLY SHIT were the women hot at guv.. and hell we didn't even make it inside.. I'm not in TO very much in the summer, but quite honnestly the quality was on par to Montreal and NYC women (note: refering to women in the lines to the drink and charlies)..

-s

You see we've always known that there are very hot chicks in the scene here in Toronto, but we don't talk about it. Why? well the less we talk the less guys will invade the city and the more girls for us..

?

does anyone here feel that girls in the city seem to be more paranoid talking to strangers or sensitive when someone makes convo at a club/lounge as an attempt to hit on .. ?

just wondering .. :]

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Originally posted by dEsidEL does anyone here feel that girls in the city seem to be more paranoid talking to strangers or sensitive when someone makes convo at a club/lounge as an attempt to hit on .. ? just wondering .. :]

no... check your BO

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fyi, my friend was dressed with proper runners, an italian team soccer jersy and (nice) track pants, he's an mtl afterhour regular


Nice chice in team jersey!!!! Although I would never be so dressed-down in TO.

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Originally posted by sylphin fyi, my friend was dressed with proper runners, an italian team soccer jersy and (nice) track pants,

maybe he looked like a gino...j/k

nah, it's the track pants, they've always had a policy about that. I've seen lots of people not let in because of track pants. The funniest thing I ever saw in line at Guv was on a Saturday when one of the bouncers didn't let someone in because the person had rolled his baggy jeans up and was wearing a bandana. The reason the bouncer gave was "sorry, no r n b style here" <--------LOL!! WTF IS THAT???

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Originally posted by sylphin finally, I dont what the fuck was going on, but HOLY SHIT were the women hot at guv..

... tourists

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ... tourists

ahhaha =)

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf no... check your BO

I hope he was kidding...

but anyways Desidel...don't listen to that shit

Honestly..some girls at clubs are just tight/stuckup

i'm an azn guy and when I go with my gino friends to places like money/palazzo/plastique I get that sometimes....some of the "ginas" or european girls just like to stick to their own kind and they probably don't expect guys like me trying to make some conversation

but then again...sometimes I get real nice outgoing girls were just shoot the shit no prob

regardless of everything above, some girls are just tight cuz they think they're all THAT!!! then my friends just takes care of them by making them feel like SHIT!!!!!! hahaha then he says to me "bro, i'll bet she'll never be stuck up again to anyone!"

Whoa.....kinda got offtrack

yeah......."ginas"/girls at guv are DAMN HOT!! But I rarely see one with an asian dude, kinda pisses me off, what's wrong with white girls and chinese guys???

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Originally posted by Maverick I hope he was kidding... but anyways Desidel...don't listen to that shit Honestly..some girls at clubs are just tight/stuckup i'm an azn guy and when I go with my gino friends to places like money/palazzo/plastique I get that sometimes....some of the "ginas" or european girls just like to stick to their own kind and they probably don't expect guys like me trying to make some conversation but then again...sometimes I get real nice outgoing girls were just shoot the shit no prob regardless of everything above, some girls are just tight cuz they think they're all THAT!!! then my friends just takes care of them by making them feel like SHIT!!!!!! hahaha then he says to me "bro, i'll bet she'll never be stuck up again to anyone!" Whoa.....kinda got offtrack yeah......."ginas"/girls at guv are DAMN HOT!! But I rarely see one with an asian dude, kinda pisses me off, what's wrong with white girls and chinese guys???

man talk about hostile puns on TA these days .. what's with the edgy vibe ?? lotta ppl here seem like they wanna own others these days can't even have a serious discussion anymore without someone trying to be funny with a smartass remark all the time.. :P

anyways yea tru say .. if u ever see any interracial dating between whites and Asians itz most commonly a white dude with an Asian woman .. Asian chicks seem to be a commodity these days , seein how almost every news chan has an Asian anchor woman. and as for white chicks/gina'z yea they rarely go for Asian guys ... who knows

again .. i'm only basing this stuff on observation. if anyone wants to do some indepth research feel free to prove me wrong..

dieseld, maverick =), to awnser your question (after serious research).. =) (I just had to)

(from Bryans's Rice-Boy Page..)

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Oh joy that the World Wide Web is quickly becoming indispensable to our existence for I've forever had the urge to vent my annoyances on an international scale about those so-called Rice Boys, of which there are tons and tons and tons here in southern California and, so I am told, throughout North America, unfortunately. Vroom vrrrooom! Now, I offer a uniquely Asian female viewpoint on this ever growing subculture of eraser-headed losers, so listen up! After reading this you will no longer wonder why so many of us jump ship and go for white guys.

I speak on behalf of all attractive, intelligent, goal-oriented Asian women out there when I say I have way, way, way better things to do than sit in the passenger seat alongside a wanna-be-hard Rice Boy and his 30-plus entourage of like-minded friends on a Friday or Saturday night. Just who do you think you are zipping around in those slammed Japanese sportsters and trying, though failing miserably, to look and be cool, all the meanwhile disturbing the peace and quiet in the process? Do you honestly think your machismo front is fooling the public? No, seriously? Do you? Well, think again!

The truth is, the lengths you Rice Boys go to slam your base-model Civics, Sentras, Integras, and Eclipses, then conceitedly showcase them to the public, are so ridiculous that I, and numerous others as fellow Asians, feel positively embarrassed for you! Just what do those tacky white racing stripes, oversized spoilers, booming sound systems, and pitch black windows, among the many, many, many other annoying, pointless additions, do to enhance your value as a person? Your expensive toy will prove utterly useless just a few years from now when suddenly you are forced to say hello to the real world and finally abandon your meaningless little hobby. Wake up, people!

What fun it will be to watch you get left in the dust as other, more respectable Asians successfully brave the ugly world as adults, leaving you to wish you were involved in somewhat less idiotic activities as youths. Yeah, that's right. You will at some point be forced to get real lives and part with your pathetic Rice Boy existence, but by then it will likely be too late to redeem what could have been. I suppose those of us with real aspirations should be grateful for this only further opens the doors of opportunity for us. For shame though, isn't it, that those long hours you spent carefully perfecting speedracer-mobile will be all for naught! Well, don't come crying to us once reality gives you a cold slap in the face. All well have to offer to little loser you is a smug "I told you so."

Now bring on dem white boys!

Uh......I can rebut to this pretty easily.

I ain't a RiceBoy, not even close to being one

And don't get me get started on ginos with their golfs and ludes...

But I see what your saying....I guess when white girls look at an asian guy, they automatically "categorize" the guy into some group and right away is not interested, cuz she think she knows what he's about.

I think that's what I'm mad about cuz I ain't like that. I know that I and so many other dudes are NOT LIKE THAT. So ladies...don't be tight to people you DON'T KNOW! OR THINK YOU KNOW!

No matter how a person dresses or wears his/her hair, what that person is or does can't be stereotyped...sometimes it can but alot of us gets screwed cuz of it.

hahaha Desidel...."asian girls have become commodities" so true... I was just at the tennis master series and all I saw were old asian woman with white guys...hahaha. it's cool...not a problem, I just wanna BALANCE the field alittle

:P

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Originally posted by sylphin dieseld, maverick =), to awnser your question (after serious research).. =) (I just had to) (from Bryans's Rice-Boy Page..) ----

Ed.. you know i ain't a Rice Boy nor do i own a rice car. and who ever took the time to write that long rant obviously had way too much to think about. I guess she can also explain the large existence of hoochie mama Asian import models then .. :P

i juss think in the end guys are less picky than chicks as to the race of the person they're dating. i'm sure most guys here would indulge in hot booty if it came their way regardless of the girl's nationality. Chick on the other hand seem to be a bit more picky with the type of guy they hook up with..

I was convinced the other day by a friend to hit up the Puffy Ami Yumi concert at Opera House (yes.. i actually went, too bad i didn't scalp my tickets for 60 bux at the door). Anyways, the entire place was PACKED with white dudes and Asian fetishes. More than half the Asian chicks i saw there were dating some white guy. And how many white chicks did i see that nite dating an Asian guy.. zero haha. most of you are prolly like so what? well i'm already seeing someone now but again yea just an observation .. ;P

i posted that mearly as a joke, but obviously as mav

I totally agree about white dudes with asian fetishes.. i know of several myself, they almost claims to be asian.. there is something totally wrong with that, in fact its worse I find than a white guy pretending to be black.

Actually, what you guys are saying not only applies to chinese.
I'm Russian myself, and know many other Russians well. What I've noticed is that Russian girls don't mind going out with non Russian guys, however Russian guys only want to go out with Russian girls.
Strange world.

Very interesting topic guys. Maverick, I'm sorry you had such bad experiences with white girls but in general I don't think white girls are stuck up at all. But then again, I've never been to Money/Palazzo so I can't comment on those clubs.

You guys are right about your observation that more white guys (or afro americans) date asian chicks than white girls dating asian guys. I have friends who are white and black who would strictly date only asian chicks.
It's odd because I'm asian and I'm generally not attracted to asian girls because I find them to be more stuck up than any other race I know (true) Or Maybe it's just me...

I guess I'm one of the few asian guys who's been with more white girls than asian chicks. I find them to be so friendly and nice as hell. I've nothing but positive experiences with white girls. I notice when I hit clubs I always mingle with the white folks moreso than the asians. I don't deliberately do that, it just happens that way.
It's weird you guys said you havn't seen as much asian guys with white girls because I've never had a problem finding a "white" girl to be with and many of my asian friends have gone out with many white chicks as well. I know of lots of asian guys who are attracted to white girls.
Maybe it's all about your attitude. Just be yourself. I'm pretty shy when it comes to chatting up with girls at clubs
but for me it's always been the white girls who would come and start a conversation with me than the asian girls (or maybe it's because I don't pay as much attention to the asian girls as much) Don't really know, but I've always find white girls so much nicer.

Anyways, Bring on em Whities!!!

hehe I'm glad that we were able to discuss this matter in a "mature" fashion....I was afraid that one guy was gonna get offended and start cussing someone else..

yeah..I see all your points..

haha I gotta meet you trancewave..I'm actually just like you, I guess I might seem to be "white washed" and I did only like white girls for a point in my life but now I think i've matured and opened my mind to any and all race...

bottom line, it don't matter on the race, just the girl and waht's she's like

peace all

Quite frankly, to be honest, meeting girl in a club is a big no no. They are usually stuck up/drunk and only do what their friends tell them too. A girl might like you but then their friends say "oh no he's ugly.. bla bla bla" type of shit. I've seen it all the time. You have better chance of meeting a GOOD Girl in school (college, uni, HS, etc.) than you do in a club. Plus, I think Meat Markets died in the early 90s I think lol

more interracial stuff...

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Originally posted by Trancewave You guys are right about your observation that more white guys (or afro americans) date asian chicks than white girls dating asian guys. I have friends who are white and black who would strictly date only asian chicks. It's odd because I'm asian and I'm generally not attracted to asian girls because I find them to be more stuck up than any other race I know (true) Or Maybe it's just me... I guess I'm one of the few asian guys who's been with more white girls than asian chicks. I find them to be so friendly and nice as hell. I've nothing but positive experiences with white girls. I notice when I hit clubs I always mingle with the white folks moreso than the asians. I don't deliberately do that, it just happens that way. It's weird you guys said you havn't seen as much asian guys with white girls because I've never had a problem finding a "white" girl to be with and many of my asian friends have gone out with many white chicks as well. I know of lots of asian guys who are attracted to white girls. Maybe it's all about your attitude. Just be yourself. I'm pretty shy when it comes to chatting up with girls at clubs but for me it's always been the white girls who would come and start a conversation with me than the asian girls (or maybe it's because I don't pay as much attention to the asian girls as much) Don't really know, but I've always find white girls so much nicer.

If any of you guys are ever downtown just walk around the Eaton center and count how many White-guy & Asian girl couples and compare them to the number of Asian-guy & White-girl couples.. :]

I always find the Eaton center an interesting place to observe interracial dating. and since i go to school around there I pretty much see this stuff on a daily basis. The vast majority of these couples i see always tend to be a white-guy with an Asian girl. If i see some white girl with a guy it's usually 4/5 with a white guy or 1/5 with a black guy. very rarely do i see a white girl dating an Asian guy. I have no idea why this is ?? Any white girls out there wanna comment ?? hehe..

and Trancewave I agree with you on a lot of points. When i was back in highschool I used to find the Asian girls like super bitchy and stuck up. So hard to hav convos with them, white girls always seemed to be a lot more down to earth and easy going and (imho) less materialistic. not to say none of them are bitchy but again juss from my observation. over time that's changed i guess things are a lot different in university everyone seems to be a lot more down to earth regardless of race. i guess ppl are just more concerned about life and grades and less about trivial things like popularity and bling.

and I agree with you that a lotta Asian guys are attracted to white girls but most white girls i know seem seldomly interested in Asian guys. Like i would go out with a white girl but most of the chicks i;ve gone out with in my lifetime (including my own girlfriend) is Asian. But my girlfriend on the other hand has gone out with more white guys than Asian guys. So again it's stuff like this that brings me back to the point that most guys are pretty carefree as to the kinda girl they date, but chicks on the other hand seem to prefer certain types of guys (usually ones their own colour) & a lot more picky. Unless of course the girl is Asian then she'll date a white guy .. maybe except a Korean girl :P

(ps. if ur a white guy and dating a Korea girl.. props, ur REAL good :] )

(*** WARNING, MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME - IF SO, TAKE IT EASY ***)

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Originally posted by Maverick I just wanna BALANCE the field alittle

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Originally posted by Trancewave Anyways, Bring on em Whities!!!

Maybe if you weren't so obsessed with sex...

OK I'm going to be as frank as possible.

What kind of "white" women are you looking for? I find that white women tend to be more "in demand" (oh god that sounds so bad) than other women. This is a mere issue of personal taste and opinion, but white women tend to be more attractive to the male population as a whole. SO if you're looking for sex with a white woman, and you're asian (I told you I'd be frank), there are a few problems.

Let me warn you, this is going to sound really bad and VERY racist but I do not harbour racist feelings; these are just observations I have made on this subject matter. Now, SINCE we are obviously (see quotes above) talking about the "sex-oriented" fields of relationships (which is what 99.9% of people who go hitting on members of the opposite sex in clubs are looking for - if not, then what the hell are you doing in a club looking for a more fruitful relationship?!) - I say, since we are talking about the sex, there are some issues that stand in the way. Namely: (***winces as this is typed***) when looking for sex women are looking for large penises and in this regard there is a basic human subconscious perception/belief - [taller men = larger penises = better sex] while the opposite holds true: [shorter men = smaller penises = worse sex]. Now, since many asians are veritably shorter than their white women "targets", this deals a great blow to their aspirations. Another issue, (perhaps even MORE racist sounding than the last one) is that unfortunately many non-asians (whites, blacks, doesn't matter) find that asians are very similar-looking and for a woman looking for sex this doesn't cut it. She wants some muscle-bound, hot dude and not some generic male.

So if you're asian and looking for a white woman to get laid with, keep those two unfortunate issues in mind. Of course, there are exceptions etc. but let me just stop talking about this subject matter because I am VERY much against this kind of relationship. So if you were offended by the above just calm down and start looking for things other than sex instead. All of your problems in this issue will then be solved.

NOW, there is ANOTHER kind of relationship in which sex is NOT the DOMINANT FACTOR. And in THIS kind of relationship, "anything goes" as is the popular saying. There is one caveat though - when looking for true love, you don't "focus in" on a specific "type" of man/woman. In fact you shouldn't be looking at all. If you claim you're "looking for true love" (or your mind claims that) then what you are really (consciously or not) looking for is the sex.

As far as real love is concerned, it just happens. There is no search, no demand, no club nights hitting on men/women. It just happens when you least expect it. Key point here: it won't matter what race of man/woman you fall in love with is, you will love them for other reasons!!! In the end, "race" is a term I feel we should abolish. We are all people and belong to one COMMON "race" - humanity.

So I think that men in general should stop trying to "focus in" on women, whether they are white or not. In fact you shouldn't even be trying to focus on women at all, relationship-wise. You should just let it happen. Lead your life normally, and it will happen, love will happen. Then it will be the most beautiful thing in the world. If you consciously look for it, and you "find" it, then it will not be love, not true love.

Of course, if you are just looking for the sex, let me just add in one more thing. For those who are "looking for white women": it actually doesn't matter if you're asian or not. "Hot" white women who are preoccupied with sex are usually VERY selective. It doesn't matter if you're white or asian or black. If you don't fit their criteria (physical characteristics, temporal possessions etc.) then you're out of luck. This may sound very discriminatory as far as women are concerned, but most women who go clubbing to "find relationships" and are generally viewed upon as "hot" tend to think this way.

I hope everyone who reads this is not offended. If you are then it was not my intention and there really is no reason you should be offended. I just felt I would like to clarify this matter a bit, I hope I've helped. Cheers!

... i'd just like to add that if you're only looking for sex, and say you really wanted some, you can always look for the nearest fat/ugly girl at a club and pick her up, provided you're an average guy (not fat/ugly as well), her (hot) friends will give the ugly friend the nod (and then laugh at her behind her her) and you'll be set, just serve a couple drinks and bring her home

(btw, i do NOT speak of experience)

hope I didn't offend anyone here... but honnestly its true, when looking at a group of girls, they'll always be the one that tries (really hard) to fit in, but cant

-s

oh my god Sylphin...haha...that's mean but I can't say it's not true....but I really have never considered that cuz I wouldn't do something like that

as for bodhichitta, I see what you're saying, I'm a reasonable man and not gonna be offended/pissed but yeah..I guess girls who just want sex would select people for her own pleasure

but I don't know why you guys jumped to sex all of a sudden, I wasn't really tlaking about that, I think that I was talking about relationships more than sex...

but yeah...no matter....like you said, just live your life and let it flow

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Originally posted by Maverick but I don't know why you guys jumped to sex all of a sudden, I wasn't really tlaking about that, I think that I was talking about relationships more than sex...

Yeah man I'm sorry I misunderstood you. A few hours after I wrote my previous reply I looked back at it and thought "WOAH that's pretty harsh there dude." You have to understand I wrote it at 7:00 a.m. (after getting up at 5:00) Usually I don't meddle in this sort of thing - everyone has a right to their own sex life and their own relationships.

I hope I didn't sound too "preachy" or hateful or anything.

whoa contreversy !!

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Originally posted by bodhichitta Yeah man I'm sorry I misunderstood you. A few hours after I wrote my previous reply I looked back at it and thought "WOAH that's pretty harsh there dude." You have to understand I wrote it at 7:00 a.m. (after getting up at 5:00) Usually I don't meddle in this sort of thing - everyone has a right to their own sex life and their own relationships. I hope I didn't sound too "preachy" or hateful or anything.

oh man .. i'm not even gonna start on all the stuff u said up there. i know u weren't trying to offend anyone but like u just openned up a huge can of worms and i wouldn't be surprised if someone came out flamming like crazy.

anyways, i'm a reasonable guy so i'm gonna comment with some restraint. tru with what Maverick said, not all of our comments were directed about sex. when i talked about walking around the Eaton center and noticing these trends i really meant that stuff. now weather or not those couples were dating for the sex of the other so called 'race' i don't know. but a lot of what you said up there is really subjective. i know you're generalizing things so that's fine but none of that stuff is 100% proven. I myself am Asian and I'm about 6 feet tall. Just from hitting up various parties and meeting TA's at various places I stand taller than most of you so what does this say? And if SWAMPER is reading this i don't think he'd be too happy about what you had to say either heh :P Besides ask a woman how much dick size actually affects how good it is .. they can't feel a thing past an inch into their hole unless u plan to penetrate thru some poor girl's back !

anyways yea see how did we get to sex here ?? no one said anything about that from the start..

so let's get more to some GENERALIZING here .. this is what i've observed at the Eaton center which is probably the Mecca of Toronto Interracial dating. And I agree with bodhichitta 100% that 'race' is a human-made thing. I once took antropology and my prof told us that "biological races" do not exist. It's something that's created by people since less than 2% of your genetic makeup determines your skin colour and such. Unfortunately skin colour is what people see first and look how much of an impact is has in this world, from entertainment, employment, income, to war and religion... and especially beauty. Almost everything is based on it.

anyways this is what i tend to notice the most when i walk around the mall afterschool:

the most COMMON 'interracial' couples i see at Eaton Center:
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Black guy - white girl
White guy - asian girl


the most UNCOMMON 'interracial' couples i see at Eaton Center:
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Black guy - asian girl (unless she'z a hoochie mama, but conservative asian... no.)
White guy - brown/arab/indian and black girl
Asian guy - brown/arab/indian, black, and white girl
Brown guy - asian, black, and white girl.


Conclusion:

Women: white girls and asian girls seem to be the ones that have the most 'interracial' appeal. if you don't believe just check out the entertainment and TV industry. MOST of the news anchor women on every channel is either WHITE or ASIAN. how many BROWN or BLACK anchor women do you see ??? and i mean North American news here too... not to say there aren't any just not a LOT as the others.

Men: black guys seem to have a lot of interracial appeal as well but most conservative non-black women will probably avoid them due to 'stereotypes' about their lifestyle. The more liberal and open minded women definately seem to seek them.

the white guy has a LOT of interracial appeal. i honestly believe that if you asked most women if they had to date someone outside of their own race they would probably choose a white guy unless the girl was white herself. Why is this?? Well look at the whole world.. it's run by WHITE MEN !! heh :P

Asian men still make & drive better cars tho ! hahaha .. sorry i just had to get that one in :]

ps. i'm not saying this cuz i'm complaining about the stereotype that white women don't date anyone except for black guys and white guys. what i've said are based on my own observations in public with regards to responses to comments stated above.

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