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Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-22-2010 21:56:

Some upcoming Black Out Events....

Friday November 5th
CREATOR ALL NIGHT EXTENDED SET

Friday December 3rd
For the first time in North America
MONOLOC (CLR, GERMANY)

MONOLOC LIVE @ BERGHAIN 3 HRS SET
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


and...

BLACK OUT NYE, Saturday January 1st!
with a special never seen before live act that will be revealed this week!

So spend your NYE with family and friends, and come party out ON Saturday! That's a freakin good plan ;-)




Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-22-2010 22:10:

All pre-sale tickets for any BLACK OUT are ONLY 15$...

www.circusafterhours.com


Posted by zeKsg on Oct-22-2010 22:16:



Hearing Monoloc's last CLR podcast, his set will bring a new sound to blackout, pretty intense stuff for sure. I never used to appreciate that specific kind of dark until I heard him doing it.


Posted by corjay9 on Oct-23-2010 17:26:

Fuck I should definitely get my ass to a Black Out event..


Posted by taface on Oct-24-2010 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by corjay9
Fuck I should definitely get my ass to a Black Out event..



Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-26-2010 17:30:

quote:
Fuck I should definitely get my ass to a Black Out event..


If you ask Erphun, Alex Bau, Brian Sanhaji and more... they will tell you that Black Out is one of their favorite event to play in the world, if not THE favorite.

We built something really unique, a true underground sound. Everybody is complaining that Montreal has the same guests over and over again when actually Black Out is bringing guests that have never played in Canada, even in North America.

So yes, if you still didn't experience a Black Out event, what are you waiting for?


Posted by KrinKer on Oct-26-2010 20:52:

waiting to be able to take nights off work when Black Out happens :P


Posted by Fran666 on Oct-26-2010 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
waiting to be able to take nights off work when Black Out happens :P


saturday january 1st... bo


Posted by corjay9 on Oct-27-2010 00:23:

I'm a stereo head, I guess that's why I haven't been to a Black Out night. Although I did thoroughly enjoy the Henry Saiz night at Circus a few weeks ago...

I wanna hear dark driving techno at 130bpm, who should I check out? any suggestions?


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-27-2010 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by corjay9
I'm a stereo head, I guess that's why I haven't been to a Black Out night. Although I did thoroughly enjoy the Henry Saiz night at Circus a few weeks ago...

I wanna hear dark driving techno at 130bpm, who should I check out? any suggestions?


I wouldnt be suprised if the Dj's at black out peak at 130bpm in their sets. I could be totally wrong though because supposedly 130 is considered too fast now.


Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-27-2010 01:36:

We don't play 130 bpm, I don't like it.

I never go over 127 bpm.

But it doesn't get darker than what I do. or Monoloc.


Posted by KrinKer on Oct-27-2010 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Fran666
saturday january 1st... bo


I work on saturdays, and sundays and friday nights ...

so yeah :P

good try tho

and are u paying the hotel ?


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-27-2010 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
We don't play 130 bpm, I don't like it.

I never go over 127 bpm.

But it doesn't get darker than what I do. or Monoloc.


Just curious, what don't you like about 128 - 135 bpm?


Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-27-2010 02:05:

When you go on an 8 hours ride and you play as dark as I do, with some sounds that are distorted and raw, 130 bpm feels like 135.

By experience, 125-127 is the sweet spot for me to take people anywhere without burning them out. You stay sexy no matter how hard you play. You can just bop your head instead of feeling like your feet or your brain can't follow.

In Montreal, you can easily find yourself with an empty room at 6 am if you are not careful about making your crowd conformtable, and they are very sensitive to music that drains too much energy.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-27-2010 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
When you go on an 8 hours ride and you play as dark as I do, with some sounds that are distorted and raw, 130 bpm feels like 135.

By experience, 125-127 is the sweet spot for me to take people anywhere without burning them out. You stay sexy no matter how hard you play.

In Montreal, you can easily find yourself with an empty room at 6 am if you are not careful about making your crowd conformtable, and they are very sensitive to music that drains too much energy.


I do find myself giving a higher bpm to techno songs that I hear and always pretty suprised when I find out what it actually is. I wonder what aspects of a song creates this audio "illusion"?

Why do you think the crowd can't handle higher bpm now? Is it really because they will be tired? I kind of doubt it because why are people tired now and not 5-6 years ago? Must be deeper than that but I don't know how how to explain it


Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-27-2010 02:24:

It is easily explainable by the fact that 10 or 15 years ago we were ALL a young crowd. Today, even if we manage to convert a few young kids, the crowd can range 18-35. The old ones have already a lot of years in this scene. They are tired. If you lose the older ones, or the girls by playing too fast and relentlessly, you end up with an empty room.

Also, techno music was energy driven because it was bad music. Today, production level is much higher and much more enjoyable at lower bpm


Posted by Dj Nacht on Oct-27-2010 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
It is easily explainable by the fact that 10 or 15 years ago we were ALL a young crowd. Today, even if we manage to convert a few young kids, the crowd can range 18-35. The old ones have already a lot of years in this scene. They are tired. If you lose the older ones, or the girls by playing too fast and relentlessly, you end up with an empty room.

Also, techno music was energy driven because it was bad music. Today, production level is much higher and much more enjoyable at lower bpm


Production level has definately gone up but has also led to a abundance of redundant music. I think the chance of pulling out a gem 10 years ago and pulling one out now has not changed for the better. It should be the opposite since there is more access to production software and much more easier to distribute music. The quality of the music might be lacking compared to todays standards but the creativity is what made it stand out. Either way I don't think it will be making a comeback anytime soon. Atleast the old school are still around and have adapted to the new sound without losing touch with their roots. CLR harbours a lot of those guys


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Oct-27-2010 04:02:

steve, the drug of choice has changed and the music has followed suit.

the "i'm going to rave so fucking hard" mentality has been over for a long time, and the kids replacing us on the dance floors are used to slower music.

music is getting slower in other genres too...not just electronic music.


Posted by corjay9 on Oct-27-2010 04:38:

I love slower stuff, most of the tracks I have are 122-126.. because tracks at that speed have a groove, sexiness like you said...130's too fast for me for every day listening, but I had a hell of a lot of fun at Yoji in Toronto, even the opener Deko-Ze was playing some hard techno and it was a lot more fun then I thought it'd be, in an afterhours kinda setting. He was at 132-135 the whole night, maybe a little higher? But yeah, slower music is my thing.

Maybe I'll go see Creator.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Oct-27-2010 04:41:

deko needs to slow down and put a shirt on

go see creator. he is a good dj. he knows how to set a mood, and even though i might not be into his sound right now, you don't build a night on a local guy in 3 different clubs (yes he invites internationals, but you get my point) without him having a clue

when he sucked (sorry) the website carried him, but the website is gone, he is still going strong, it most likely means he is doing something right.

don't think i'm kissing ass martin, you need moar cowbell.


Posted by zeKsg on Oct-27-2010 05:24:

A lot of tracks on huge labels like ostgut ton, clr, sonic groove(my favourite) sound pretty crazy at 126-127.... when some of them are originally 130.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Oct-27-2010 05:33:

5 bpms in a club is nowhere near as noticeable as when you listen at home.

in a club you are there to get down, you aren't tapping your foot and looking at your watch

due hast mich du frag.

sven was one of the best aria nights ever...and to be honest the pills were the only thing that made his shoddy mixing bearable.

in a club you don't notice shit, you just fist pump like a jersey shore cast member on paycheck day.


Posted by zeKsg on Oct-27-2010 12:06:

lol what are you talking about, most people can notice a difference of 1 bpm as long as they have a general understanding of electronic music.


Posted by acronym on Oct-27-2010 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
5 bpms in a club is nowhere near as noticeable as when you listen at home.

in a club you don't notice shit, you just fist pump like a jersey shore cast member on paycheck day.


Maybe you don't, I pay a lot of attention in clubs. I've definitely noticed BPM shifts before, and 5 bpm is pretty significant. Changes the whole vibe of a party.


Posted by Ravemontreal on Oct-27-2010 14:28:

Of course, I can feel the difference of what one single BPM can do to a crowd


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