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Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2010 01:53:

Album - Superstition [Breakbeat] - Now with singles

Full Album:

Deep Eddie Zilker - Superstition by EddieZilker

& here's two singles extracted from the end:

Superstition Excerpts by EddieZilker

Here's the back-story:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
I'm thinking about starting another album. I just want it to be one big jam-session, kind of feeding it one theme and relating it to the next, rather than making separate songs. It's got a huge hour+ long wank-fest potential, but it could be cool.


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=4



Posted by kevin shawn on Oct-28-2010 04:15:

Downloaded. Will give this a proper listen


Posted by Owsey on Oct-28-2010 11:14:

Awesome! I'm in.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2010 15:07:

Thanks, guys. I hope you like it.


Posted by tehlord on Oct-28-2010 22:03:

Dunno what to say but kudos!

This belongs in bars all over the world. Get the ****** licensed and make some money dude


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-28-2010 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Dunno what to say but kudos!

This belongs in bars all over the world. Get the ****** licensed and make some money dude


Thank you, sir! That is, indeed, a kudos.


Posted by tehlord on Oct-29-2010 09:52:

I really don't know where you find the patience!

I struggle finishing a 5 minute track


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-29-2010 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I really don't know where you find the patience!

I struggle finishing a 5 minute track


I'm not sure patience has much to do with it. I get to points where I get frustrated but that's when I just stop working on music and go listen to other people's work or take an entire day off from it, altogether, and that usually jogs the creative gears into play, again. This was just something I started casually that really drew me into it the further things progressed.

Time wasters, like posting on line, weren't something I had to "discipline" myself away from. I just stopped going on-line because my attention was diverted and/or hyper-focused elsewhere. There were rows of days where I didn't even turn on the browser to check e-mail. For me to say I had to have patience to persevere through it woefully discounts the addictive nature of whatever groove I was in.

Of course, I still think it helps that we didn't get Fallout - New Vegas until October 26th.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-30-2010 18:30:

I have updated it and now included some free bonus party favors. Thanks to everyone who gave it a listen and downloaded draft 1.


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-31-2010 19:31:

I'm planning having this on in the background at work this week, as what I heard so far is real nice.


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-31-2010 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I'm planning having this on in the background at work this week, as what I heard so far is real nice.


Thanks!










I do hope that you heard from 33:06 - 34:30 or so, as some might think it prurient for some work environments.


Posted by tehlord on Oct-31-2010 20:16:

I had another listen and it seems the kick is way more prominent now? Saying that I was listening on cans last time.

I think in the context of having a really cool backgroung sound on the kick kills it a bit.

I really can see you doing well uot of this with the right level of doof.

I remain most impressed


Posted by EddieZilker on Oct-31-2010 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I had another listen and it seems the kick is way more prominent now? Saying that I was listening on cans last time.

I think in the context of having a really cool backgroung sound on the kick kills it a bit.

I really can see you doing well uot of this with the right level of doof.

I remain most impressed


I tweaked the mix a little last night but actually turned down some bus EQ I had on the kick along with the gain on the master limiter (which was never really triggered regularly by the kick but...). I did nudge the bass line a little to take care of some thin-ness I didn't want for it in the mix.



EDIT: Just quickly comparing the mix on phones and speakers... Something to consider. I don't think I was quashing any regular dynamics with the limiter in the first draft but I'm wondering if I could lower the kicks a little to get some more space for the back-ground. I hear much more back-ground with less kick through my phones than I do on my speakers so I'm going to have to think about it. Definitely value your input on this.


Posted by theterran on Nov-01-2010 09:35:

damn, need to keep more up on things, shoulda poked me or something...

65 minutes of zilker eh? Sounds tasty. Chucking this on the ipod for the drive tommorow. Will give some feedback lata.


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-02-2010 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by theterran
damn, need to keep more up on things, shoulda poked me or something...

65 minutes of zilker eh? Sounds tasty. Chucking this on the ipod for the drive tommorow. Will give some feedback lata.


Thanks, man. Let me know how it sounded. I did put it one my facebook.


Posted by Owsey on Nov-02-2010 20:07:

I still haven't had the free time to sit content for an hour, so tomorrow I'm going to put it on my mp3 and play it while cycling. It's probably not the best place to listen for the first time, but I really want to hear what you've created


Posted by Unique2701 on Nov-02-2010 21:54:

Right, I don't produce or know anything about that, so I can't share any thoughts on the technical part. Anyways, I liked this a lot, the last ~25minutes really stand out to me. I listened to this a couple of times now, the first/middle part starts to make more sense now. I really dig that last but one track, it's so lush and dreamy. Well done.


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-02-2010 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
Right, I don't produce or know anything about that, so I can't share any thoughts on the technical part. Anyways, I liked this a lot, the last ~25minutes really stand out to me. I listened to this a couple of times now, the first/middle part starts to make more sense now. I really dig that last but one track, it's so lush and dreamy. Well done.


Sweet! That last part is my favorite, too. Glad you liked it.

@Owen: Now I wish I had a bicycle. Some of your stuff would be awesome to ride to. BTW, to your credit, I referred someone who critiqued this album to your material.


Posted by theterran on Nov-03-2010 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker I did put it one my facebook.


What's facebook again? Oh yeah...:S

Might give it a few extra listens before I post any thoughts...and I really like the idea of trying for an hour start to finish on a project...Might have to give this a go someday.


Posted by Unique2701 on Nov-03-2010 20:11:

Are you going to share the tracks seperately? I'm not really a fan of mixed albums


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-03-2010 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by theterran
What's facebook again? Oh yeah...:S

Might give it a few extra listens before I post any thoughts...and I really like the idea of trying for an hour start to finish on a project...Might have to give this a go someday.


My only advice is to think about what's ahead, in the loosest of terms, but still keep the future of the song, in mind, and recycle your instruments by stacking and tweaking. I've got a lot of sounds that played two or more different parts.


And don't get me started on my dismal failure of a facebook page. It's horrid. My girlfriend's is well over a thousand.


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-03-2010 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
perhaps but I am just surprised how inept some people are. For example, your little album , I could bear about 20 seconds. It sounded like you just put a drum machine with a random beat and sounds , then jammed for 1 hour. The mixing is horrible, everything is muffled and it sort of saddens me that people's s standards are so damn low. I mean even my girlfriend laughed while it was playing wondering what the fuck I was listening to. It isn't just me. I just think most people here only listen to EDM and as a result their compass for what sucks and what doesnt ain't exactly calibrated properly.


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=74&s=

Clearly I pushed someone's button, here.




Have your temper-tantrum with me, in my thread but I'm not going to trash someone else's while you toss over the lack of merit in my work.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-03-2010 21:26:

no temper here. I just thought perhaps you could of made 3 minutes of something that was more interesting and developed than the 1 hour of boring uninteresting poorly crafted work you made here. It sounds like you've been making music for about 1 month. I just don't get how you can talk rather maturely about music but then make something so poor in craftsmanship.


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-03-2010 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
no temper here. I just thought perhaps you could of made 3 minutes of something that was more interesting and developed than the 1 hour of boring uninteresting poorly crafted work you made here. It sounds like you've been making music for about 1 month. I just don't get how you can talk rather maturely about music but then make something so poor in craftsmanship.


You listened to twenty seconds, or are you implying that 20 seconds ended the grace for your ears and you suffered additionally as you perused the index on the sound-cloud player? And then came to the conclusion that my drum programming was spewing out random and unrelated patterns. What can I say? The factory presets I was using just weren't that coherent? You may not have liked the inclinations to house music I tried to accomplish or even the progression of the drum patterns; the sounds I have chosen, the opacity of my mix, or my overall style for this particular piece of work, but your analysis shows precious little insight into my strategy, goals, and ethos I employed. There is even less of what I would consider helpful which almost seems to imply that it is beyond any sort of help you could offer.

That said, If I'm accusing you of being upset, it's because the hallmarks of hostility are couched in the language you're using. It's the haughty, dismissive attitude and your clinical tone of eviscerating condescension; completely devoid of any empathy, what-so-ever. The inevitable conclusion one should come to, being so addressed by an industry professional, would seem to be that all is lost and that one ought to pack it in or at least have the decency to refrain from displaying home-made digital swill.

What would you have me think of what you post, if it is, in actuality, not meant to cause harm? That it is some inevitable truth I (or we, as the case may be) ought to come to grips with which, in the end, would serve me (us) in some way? That you're not casting aspersions but, instead, just tossing out your nuggets of unvarnished truth and letting the chips fall where they may?

I'm all for being honest, in particular because I've seen and heard where white-washing glaring issues actually poses a disservice to those such a treatment was meant to protect. I'm also not suggesting that there's nothing I could do for the work this thread pertains to which would improve it or, for that matter, that it has no mistakes: That which plainly should be corrected in order to improve it. Personally, however, I think your brand of honesty has very little to do with being helpful.

Really, it just seems more designed to suck the fun out of the process with all the loving tenderness of a fuel-air-bomb. And that really is the only reason I do what I do - because it's fun.


Posted by EddieZilker on Nov-03-2010 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
Are you going to share the tracks seperately? I'm not really a fan of mixed albums


I am actually considering pulling out all the salient themes from the beginning of their introduction to their end and putting them into singles. It could be a tedious process, however, kind of like un-knitting a sweater to make socks from all the colors of its yarn.



Thanks, again.


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