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Posted by LeVouS on Jul-31-2002 00:41:

Which Mixer is the worth to buy .. Numark, Stanton, Behringer, or Vestax

Hi Guys .. i am looking for a good mixer around $150-200 which have 3 channel and i really need opinions from you guyz who already have the mixer


1. Vestax PMC-17A
2. Vestax PMC-27MKII
http://store.yahoo.com/hollywooddj/vestax.html

3. Numark Pro SM-3
4. Numark DM-3002X
http://store.yahoo.com/hollywooddj/numark.html

5. Stanton RM-3S
http://store.yahoo.com/hollywooddj/stantonrm3s.html

6. Behringer VMX300
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/djgear/behvm3chanvc.html


Plizz tell me Which one is best to get with my budget. My only hope is only you guyz heheheE~

Thx, LeVouS


Posted by Hybrid Junkie on Jul-31-2002 00:50:

not too familiar with some of the other mixers, and too lazy to go check on them but my opinion (biased) is for the numark dm-3002x.

I've got a 2002x which is nice and the features are all good, it doesn't load on heaps of useless crap you ain't gonna use; just the basics plus some bonuses. The cue split it prob. the best function, the vu meters (lights) work well. Overall I like it esp. for the price, but keep in mind I don't know all the others.

just my 2 cents, good luck mate


Posted by Veldrid on Jul-31-2002 02:26:

I have heard some great things about the Stanton RM-3S's, but I can't give ya a personally opinion on them cause I havent ever used one. Vestax is an awesome manufacturer tho. I myself have a Vestax 275.


Posted by u4ea on Jul-31-2002 02:30:

I'll put in another vote for Numark.

I'm using the DM-3001X, I love it.

3 Channel mixer with 3 phono inputs & 3 line inputs, split/blend cue, 3-band EQ/kills, master/monitor out...that's all that I need


Posted by LeVouS on Jul-31-2002 03:13:

Hei Guyz .. Thx for the reply and btw is that true that Numark does not have long life fader cycle ? i read somewhere else in this forum that their fader are bad

btw i just checked that Numark Pro SM3 is way to expensive .. hahhaaA~ i thought it will cost me near DM3002x so i am going to exclude it from my option

Thx LeVouS


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-31-2002 03:40:

I'm starting to feel like a record on repeat, but here ya go:

Stanton RM3 Don't get this, i have heard from many people it is crap

Behringer VMX300 Just came out recently, not sure if it will last, cheap price. I have heard of a few breaking down, and with the price, i am not surprised.

Numark SM3 this mixer is aiight, a couple people reccomended it. numark has a TON of mixers in this range, including the fusion series, all would be OK. I have heard bad things about the faders though, they tend to wear out.

Vestax PMC. both those mixer that you listed have PMC faders. these are not as good as the PCV ones, and will not last nearly as long. you will be buying new faders soon, not just crossfader.

the PMC170A is a PCV version of the PCV170. one thing to know about this mixer is that the EQ does not work in the headphones which i think is pretty lame.

the vestaxPCV275 is a PCV version of the PMC-270 and the extra money for the PCV faders is worth every penny in my opinion.

it's more than you want to spend, but trust me, this mixer rocks.

go look at the post pics of your setup thread, and take a look how many tranceaddicts have this mixer, and you will see that it's the one to get.

but, if you really can't afford it, then i say get the numark, stay away from behringer and the rm3.


Posted by bkim00 on Jul-31-2002 03:42:

You're absolutely right. My experience with Numark crossfaders is that they wear out really fast. I had a Numark and the crossfader went bad is less than 6 months. My friend has the 3001x. I love the set up on it. It is simple, but has everything you need. His crossfader needs replacement though. My other DJ friend has the 3002x, but his crossfader is still good.

I myself have the Stanton rm3s. It is an alright mixer. I wish the setup had the Numark feel. The Stanton is almost like a clone of the vestax 270. If you're a bedroom DJ, then you shuold go with the Numark 3002x. Great setup and does not have unecessary features whish the rm3s has. As long as you take care of your equipment, it should be all good.


Posted by LeVouS on Jul-31-2002 07:26:

Whh000tt .. Great info JohnSmith ... i really grateful

btw since PMC series have shorter fader and have to replace if its wear out ... so if PMC compares to Numark DM3002x, Which one is better since Numark tend to have shorter fader lifetime

Thx, LeVouS


Posted by groove department on Jul-31-2002 12:33:

behringer... the quality is incredible..


Posted by bodhichitta on Jul-31-2002 15:59:

As JohnSmith said, yes, the Vestax PCV-275 is "the way to go" (barring Allen & Heath, etc.).

However, with your listed budget, I'd recommend you go with the Behringer VMX-300. The quality is very good - I find nothing wrong with it, and it serves me excellently. I find the EQ's to be particularly nice, with a high degree of attenuation. The faders feel solid and smooth, lacking the general "cheap-feel" that many mixers in the VMX-300's price range tend to have.


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Jul-31-2002 17:14:

Behringer are known to break right out of the box.

My numark 3001X is great.


Posted by Dmatrox on Jul-31-2002 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
Behringer are known to break right out of the box.

My numark 3001X is great.


Behringers break right out of the box Dude you are just talking outa your ass no offense.

I owned a behringer mixer for almost a year and sold it to a doofus for 10 bucks less than i bought it for. The quality is good, but the eqs are not as accurate as other mixers. I owned the cheapest behringer dx100 mixer and it was good but didnt have enough features, so i bought i vestax mixer.


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Jul-31-2002 18:29:

Not from my ass at all. They are known for it. And how can the EQ's not work as well as other mixers??


Posted by JohnSmith on Jul-31-2002 19:25:

Well, i have never seen a behringer mixer in real life, nor used one, so my opinion means jack shit.

BUT, i have heard from many people on this site that they fall apart quickly, that the distortion is too much, that the EQs suck, the faders wear out.

and i know that the mixers have not been out that long.

on the other hand, i have used vestax and numark, and they have both been great, especially the vestax.

so, in my OPINION, i would stay away from behringer.


Posted by LeVouS on Jul-31-2002 22:43:

hey JohnSmith ... I notice that in PMC 170 there aren't 3 kill switch button next to fader while i read it in the description .. there are kill switch features .

http://store.yahoo.com/hollywooddj/vespmc170ane.html


So which one is correct ??


Peace, LeVouS


Posted by bkim00 on Jul-31-2002 23:03:

Read the PM i sent you levous. Hopefully it'll help you out


Posted by LeVouS on Aug-01-2002 12:01:

Hey guyz .. i need to ask u guyz one more thing( u guyz might start to realize that i am annoying) Is Numark Matrix 3 good enough ? coz i just find that mixer only cost me $229 .... which means my headache become worse coz i am confused which mixer i should get. I find it very good but the model is quite weird compare to standard Mixer.

This is my following option :

Vestax PCV-175 :$249
Vestax PMC-170A :$205
Numark DM3002X :$189
Numark Matrix 3 :$229


Peace, LeVouS


Posted by bkim00 on Aug-01-2002 18:26:

Cross that Matrix off of your list. It is a plastic piece of junk. That thing will probably break down after a month. You're better off getting the Vestax.

I actually heard that they had to recall the Matrix when they were first released. So DO NOT get the matrix. Get the 3002x or the vestax


Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-01-2002 18:33:

and if you are going to get a vestax, i would get the 275 instead of the 175.

it's a little bit more dough, but it's worth it for hearing EQ in the headphones, and all the other extras you get.


Posted by quddha on Aug-01-2002 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by bkim00
Cross that Matrix off of your list. It is a plastic piece of junk. That thing will probably break down after a month. You're better off getting the Vestax.

I actually heard that they had to recall the Matrix when they were first released. So DO NOT get the matrix. Get the 3002x or the vestax


Really? Have you actually used a matrix3?

Well, I have. Been using it rigorously well over a month now, approaching a year, and its still going strong. The matrix3 has voltage control faders, so they don't wear out as fast. They have level meters for all 3 channels, split/pan cue-ing, slope control, kill switches, etc. etc.

So actually, if you want to get the matrix3, I've been using it for almost a year now, no problems here. I only speak from experience.


Posted by Sinonick on Aug-01-2002 21:53:

pcv 275 is a bit more expensive. go for the pcv175 instead.

As for the matrix 3 i don't think it'll break soon, it has optical faders (means faders don't wear out). unless you use it in any building construction areas or something it will remain in one piece.

so what if they recalled it? that should be a plus not a minus, besides they have a guarantee don't they ???

i think if you're going for a numark go for the matrix 3, not the 3002X...

i know a guy that bought matrix 3, he said it was much more solid than what he expected. sure is no plastic piece of junk.


if i were you i'd go straight for the PCV 175, it might not be great, but it sure is A GUARANTEED *QUALITY* MIXER.

you got my point...


Posted by LeVouS on Aug-01-2002 22:46:

quote:
and if you are going to get a vestax, i would get the 275 instead of the 175.

it's a little bit more dough, but it's worth it for hearing EQ in the headphones, and all the other extras you get.



Its too expensive for me JohnSmith .. ofcoz if i have that budget i would not give further thought to buy that mixer


hahahhahaaA~ oh man .. this is going to be exciting ... i still cant decide which mixer i should get

i know that vestax is a quality mixer but too bad i had limited budget ( last option will be PVC-175) and also too bad PCV-175 doesnt have kill switch next to fader otherwise i would not give further thought

while Matrix 3 have all the good features ( kill switch next to fader and optical fader )

however PMC175 and DM3002X has cheaper prices (for the price DM3002X has all the good features except the fader quality which i dont really care.... i guess :P)


Btw Thx for all tranceaddicter who spend their time and have given me alot of info about the mixer



Peace, LeVouS


Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-02-2002 00:21:

well, get the 175 if you have to, imo it's the best of those mixers.

just know that you can't hear the EQ in the cans.


Posted by LeVouS on Aug-02-2002 01:50:

quote:
just know that you can't hear the EQ in the cans.



what does that mean ? u mean headphones ?


Peace, LeVouS


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Aug-02-2002 08:39:

The RM-3 is built on the same line as the PMC-17A so there is absolutely no difference between the two except maybe better quality parts in the Vestax and the price being lower for the Stanton. Both are quite good mixers.

And the PCV-175 isnt under $200 so i dont think its in this guy's budget. The numark mixers arent all that good for their price. Behringer's VMX-300 for $190 is quite a good mixer, kills are amazing and has quite a bit of features. This is a good choice.


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