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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 15:44:

work while you watch TV

I tend to watch the daily show , the colbert report, family guy and south park and I tend to do my piano work out in the morning. Find it is a good way to do mundane work while being entertained.

Was thinking you could do alot of things relating to dance while watching shows that don't have music. Things like synthesis, organizing your track �.

Find it works well if the TV doesn't really have music and it isn't that hard to follow. I find comedy and standup the best choice. I don't think I have watched TV in years without actually doing something while it is playing. Except for Family guy and south park. Those are my two shows I will give my full attention.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 16:13:

i listen to music, watch tv, posting on TA, chatting on msn, talking in the phone, make dinner, clean the house and study at the same time. next year im trading studying for music-production (as my master is finished). really effective but i dont remember any of it afterwards. oh and the quality is shit but who cares, nothing gets measured anymore anyway, i love socialism. when im at work though, i cant do shit else but program PLC, full concentration is needed. i agree though that family guy deserves more attention. finally a good thread btw, this place has been terrible lately.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 16:40:

I used to do 4 hours of finger exercises for piano and I needed some entertainment as it was just too boring. I suppose when you are learning a technique, you should be paying attention, but that muscle memory part. I often feel it is better to just let your subconscious take it in.

sometimes i do a trill with two fingers on peoples head and they don't particularly enjoy it.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 16:42:

btw i recently started listening to classical music again while studying, works like a charm and keeps me focused, could you recommend me some mad? listening to a classic radio on iTunes, have no idea what i really listen to.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 16:51:

do you prefer classical or romantic ?

this is classical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io1TLkvQEHQ


this would be romantic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgwr3wrenkQ

there is also alot of other types but those are the two main periods.


Posted by Morvan on Nov-09-2010 16:58:

I like to improvise on the piano to movies I watch.
Enjoyable, especially with movies that feature a well-composed soundtrack.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 17:00:

i like the happy, major ones. maybe you could make a spotify playlist and share. infact it doesnt have to be from those periods at all, but i have no idea whether or not anyone compose new music like this today? i have a few best of cds with bach and vivaldi and all that but its rather cheese. i do not like huge delta volume (crescendos?), but the simpler ones. something that sounds like money and class you know? pianosessions are welcome too. oh and it doesnt have to be true orchestra, synthesized stuff works too, like movie/game-soundtracks etc.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 17:02:

check out Haydn


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Morvan
I like to improvise on the piano to movies I watch.
Enjoyable, especially with movies that feature a well-composed soundtrack.


try that out with a steiner flick!


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 17:04:

help me fill this one up with classical stuff:
http://open.spotify.com/user/djpalm...IDBD7zFI107nJkC


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 17:06:

fuck off


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 17:10:

lol what? dont you have spotify? its a great prog for streaming music, but might not be avaliable everywhere yet.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 17:13:

i download all my music as i'm quite particular as to who is the conductor and the year of the recording and if it is a concerto, who the soloist is. For example. anything Bernstein conducts is just awful as far as i'm concerned. It makes a huge difference who is conducting as in a way , he is the mixing engineer. Some conductors also fix mistakes in scores or do their own
"remixes" for example Stakowsky.

Classical music isn't perfect and often the conductor has to make alterations so certain instruments cut. This is why you see many editions of works as the composers themselves never really nailed it perfect the first time. Some changes can be drastic like doubling a line with a particular instrument because the original script does not project that melody enough. Lets just say conductors do alot of work that involves more than gay baton tricks.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 17:27:

yeah ive found 20+ versions of tracks, its really not easy finding the "right" one. some are organ versions of stuff, some are harpsichord stuff and some are even vocal (barf). would be cool to arrange some classical synthetic stuff in logic, i see it has a full orchestra soundset option when starting up. add a little reverb and maybe it works.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 17:42:

not really. To get something realistic, it takes a lot of time. But for composition, sibelius is great as you don't really need a realistic sound. Just a reference as you can imagine how it would sound in real life. OF course it is alot more complicated than that as there are all kinds of conventions regarding orchestration and voice leading but ya, I would suggest a notation program over logic.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-09-2010 17:46:

think ill stick to monophonic edm for now


Posted by JEO on Nov-09-2010 18:22:

M4B! Got that book borrowed you recommended (Harmony and voice leading). Now it's just that I need to learn a heap of note-stuff, and would like an app in which I could just place notes on the staff and take a listen to it, maybe export a midi to be opened in my daw. Any good ones (free, beginner friendly, windows)?

I'm dazed of all the new information I've tried to feed myself in a couple of days. That book is daunting. TV won't help.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 18:28:

ya actual cognitive learning requires your full attention. I would use sibelius. Also be sure to go over all the paradigms with a piano so you really get the progressions in your head.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-09-2010 18:32:

Re: work while you watch TV

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I tend to watch the daily show , the colbert report, family guy and south park....


Hey, watch your own damn country's shows! Don't you guys have "Canadian Idol, Eh", or "Dancing with the Bears, Eh", or some other lame American ripoff? If not, what about Red Green - is he still alive?

I don't have a TV in the studio, but I've been tempted to get one so I can watch football and hockey while making music - they're the only two things on TV that really get in the way of my studio time. I Tivo Stewart & Colbert so my wife and I can FF through the commercials and see both of them in about 40 minutes every night. I wouldn't want anything else occupying my attention during those two shows anyway.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-09-2010 18:42:

I've actually wondered quite a bit if people do this because I have a crazy habit of shutting the tv off/turning it on like 20-30 times throughout the course of sequencing w/e project I'm working on.

I usually first turn it on because I'll have down time where I'm more or less setting up something, or thinking/experimenting/clicking on random shit w/out actually playing any sounds. But it will get quiet in my room and I'll turn the tv on.
Then eventually I get everything set up the way I want and go back into loop mode, playing a loop and slowly adding/adjusting sounds. At this point the tv gets lowered. But then if I wind up playing that loop for a long time, like 20-30 mins straight I shut the tv off to save on energy lol.

I wind up finishing one part of the track, say the clap, then go back to setting up for a new sound or opening/arranging things the way I want so I can do another part. Then it gets quiet again, I turn the tv on, lower it once I start looping, then shut it off all together if the loop is taking too long.

In a way it honestly drives me crazy because I'm never fully into whatever is on tv, except when theres quiet time. Then when I'm ready to start playing again, my focus goes right back to the track. Most of the initial setting up for new parts is all done on autopilot. But I'm persistently switching my focus to the tv during boring/quiet parts of production, and turning it off once I have to loop all the new sounds together and make a new change or progression in the track.

I didn't really read most the response in this thread, just the first, but I thought it was interesting the topic of tv was brought up when in fact it can sometimes drive me out of my mind going back in forth. But I always need some sort of form of stimulation which I think is the real issue. If it goes quiet for too long I get ancy and bored as fuck. If theres too much going on I lose focus, so I'm always going back and forth.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-09-2010 18:43:

well I have a mac so I can just browse the net and not worry about anything. Actually I have 2 macs now so one can watch TV while the other one does work. I don't actually own a TV/.



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