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SOme compter Help OSX - Backing up

Well I bought another mac pro as you know and it has the same hardrive configuration with the same samples 4 drives in all. What I want to do is make sure each hardrive is the same for each computer. Is there a software that will do this ? THey are currently networked. I just want to keep them both the same in case one crashes. I have backup drives for the root drive but I don't feel like buying 6 more hardrives for backup.

Clone the drives to a disk image or use time machine that comes installed on OSX to backup your data.

Clone - http://www.macinstruct.com/node/147

Time Machine - http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1427

Use Time Machine... easy peasy.

both drives are in use. time machine isn't an option. I need a cloning tool that can wok over lan.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad both drives are in use. time machine isn't an option. I need a cloning tool that can wok over lan.

Ah, my apologies... read it a bit too quickly

Another question

i've had my first mac pro for 2 years almost and I've never reinstalled the OS. I run all the appropriate maintenance stuff and I'm wondering if a new install is sometimes a good thing. It feels a little sluggish lately but perhaps that is because my new mac pro is damn fast.

Also, if I reinstall the oss, is there a step by step process somewhere on the net where I can just copy over my preference files and apps so I don't have to reinstall everything. I know it is much simpler than windows but haven't tried it myself.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad Another question i've had my first mac pro for 2 years almost and I've never reinstalled the OS. I run all the appropriate maintenance stuff and I'm wondering if a new install is sometimes a good thing. It feels a little sluggish lately but perhaps that is because my new mac pro is damn fast. Also, if I reinstall the oss, is there a step by step process somewhere on the net where I can just copy over my preference files and apps so I don't have to reinstall everything. I know it is much simpler than windows but haven't tried it myself.

Short answer is yes. Macs need an OS install far less regularly that PC, but still I do it about every two years and you see a nice performance reset. Also, whatever you do, make sure you have the latest OSX disk, not an older version and the update disk, otherwise you'll lose about 3 completely uneccessary hours of your life.

As for verbatim cloning, we use:

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDu...escription.html

how about my apps and preferences. Is it rather simple to move them back ? I know it is rather simple but I would like an idiot proof guide just in case. I remember you posting a thread years ago about how you reinstalled the OS and transferred your apps.

By the way, my workflow is incredible now!! I didn't think another mac pro would make much of a difference but it just makes things so much more simple.

SuperDuper is indeed a great tool to make exact copies of your drive. Should anything happen to your main drive, just boot from one of the backups and continue where you left of as if nothing happend. Been using it for a few years and never had to use it fortunately, but gives you a lot of reassurance. Sometimes I boot from the backups just to test and it never failed on me.

On the same league as SuperDuper is Carbon Copy Cloner. I think it has most of the same functions, but free of charge.

but I need to actually copy , would prefer a smart copy option, the drive from computer A to computer B via lan. I like superduper but I am not sure the networking feature works well. It makes an image which you then have to load. I just want the program to add any files to my B computer I might of added to A.

ive reinstalled OSX a few times, it sure is easy. i didnt backup anything else than my music files first though so it was pretty straight forward. with loads of software and settings i bet its abit more job, i think timemachine is your best bet for that. btw cant u use the two internal discs in raid redundancy-mode?

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad how about my apps and preferences. Is it rather simple to move them back ? I know it is rather simple but I would like an idiot proof guide just in case. I remember you posting a thread years ago about how you reinstalled the OS and transferred your apps.

If you use superduper, it will create a complete bootable exact copy of your drive(S) - everything as it exactly is.

You can then clone that superduper backup drive back to the internal drive(s) to restore your computer. So the simple way to do this is to have a external drive with the superduper clone image on it and just whip it out when you need to restore.

I'm not aware of any software that will allow a selective backup across LAN.

Te clever way to work with superduper however, is to create an imagef your computer now, then put that drive in a fireproof safe.

Now, format your internal(s), install OSX all your apps from fresh, sort your preferences, THEN use superduper to create a "fresh" install image on another external drive. This means you will have an image of your mac, in it's perfect state. Next time you want to format it, just wipe the internals and clone the fresh image on to the internals, run software update and you're job is done, all in about an hour.

We do this at the studio and I can't tell you how many hours it saves us on maintenance.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad By the way, my workflow is incredible now!! I didn't think another mac pro would make much of a difference but it just makes things so much more simple.

Glad to hear it!! - It was a revelation the first time I did it. You know you'll never be able to go back to one mac now though?

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Originally posted by farris SuperDuper is indeed a great tool to make exact copies of your drive. Should anything happen to your main drive, just boot from one of the backups and continue where you left of as if nothing happend. Been using it for a few years and never had to use it fortunately, but gives you a lot of reassurance. Sometimes I boot from the backups just to test and it never failed on me. On the same league as SuperDuper is Carbon Copy Cloner. I think it has most of the same functions, but free of charge.

Hmmmm.....Farris, do you know if CCC needs a completely blank drive or can it use the free space on a drive to create the backup?

i think i'm using the wrong terminology. I should of said I want my hardrives to be the same. A tool that will transfer any new data that isn't on the new machines drives to the respective drive.

I have proper backups of the boot drives for each but for the samples. I think having duplicates on 2 different computers is as good as it is going to get as I don't feel like buying more hardrives at this point. I have 12 right now.

sounds like you want raid 10 over a network? have no idea how that can work.

lol jesus guys

I want a program that looks at drive A , then checks drive B at lets say 192.168.01.33

the program notices that drive B is missing some files that drive B has. The program then transfers those files so that the drives have the same info. I don't want to ghost the drive each time I get a new library.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad lol jesus guys I want a program that looks at drive A , then checks drive B at lets say 192.168.01.33 the program notices that drive B is missing some files that drive B has. The program then transfers those files so that the drives have the same info. I don't want to ghost the drive each time I get a new library.

Oh, OK then I now know what you mean. You want comparative snyc software. Why didn't you just say so

You've got a couple of options then:


http://www.econtechnologies.com/pag...o_overview.html

http://www.decimus.net/synk_professional.php


Both of these will do folders but just read the FAQ to make sure they can do they can do the entire drive.

cool well i'm reinstalling OSX. Lets see if I can reinstall it and put back all my programs in under 2 hours.



go!

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad i think i'm using the wrong terminology. I should of said I want my hardrives to be the same. A tool that will transfer any new data that isn't on the new machines drives to the respective drive. I have proper backups of the boot drives for each but for the samples. I think having duplicates on 2 different computers is as good as it is going to get as I don't feel like buying more hardrives at this point. I have 12 right now.

OMG 12! ha just curious, what do you store in them?

Sorry . i'm in reinstalling my os and the password is on this program that enters it for me and I can't remember.

well each computer has

500 root
1.5 sample
1.0 samples
1.0 samples

do 8

plus 2 more 500 drives for root backup.

Plus 2 more for general storage like movies and stuff that I don't really need on my computer. THey are basically just mirrors of each other.

I also have one 500 gig drive for my pc backup and this old 80 gig drive i'm using as a installer for osx so it goes faster than the cdv

so 14 in all

they are all about half full which is probably what you want so access time doesn't get too bogged down.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Hmmmm.....Farris, do you know if CCC needs a completely blank drive or can it use the free space on a drive to create the backup?

I think your safest bet is when the drive is partitioned.

Edit: Dedicate the free space to a new partition on the drive.

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Originally posted by farris I think your safest bet is when the drive is partitioned. Edit: Dedicate the free space to a new partition on the drive.

Thanks - that what i thought, but I was wondering if you could just back to a designated folder rather than the partition etc.

Richie - how to the install go?

lol not as easy as i thought it would be. Just reverted back to my old setup as I had to do stuff today. I think actually it would of worked what I had learned in the hours about privileges groups and owners.

I wasn't very thorough. Just copied all application support and libraries stuff but I had the acl issue which I didn't know how to fix at the time. Then restarted and thought everything would work like my old setup but not the case. Will have to try again but be more diligent. Not really a priority as my computer runs fine but I enjoy tinkering on a friday night if the girlfriend is away. I suppose it was thursday. I watched the sorcerer's apprentice. The lead is so freaking annoying. I know they were trying to cast a vulnerable guy like harry potter but you just want to take this guys lunch money. And Nicholas Cage, well I suppose I just can't forget his role from that prison airplane movie. But hey , how many actors go from blockbuster to direct to dvd then back again. He was in kick-ass too. Rabin's score was well for rabin I suppose good in that he tends to do really bad orchestral stuff but overall, it was rather cliche. When ever I hear the start of a movie and it has those arpegiatted strings from the batman soundtrack, I take a deep breath and try to remain calm. He also had alot of music he could of drawn from the original work. I'm actually a little confused why they hired him but I suppose Bruckheimer always hires the same guys and the first 2 on the list were already booked.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Thanks - that what i thought, but I was wondering if you could just back to a designated folder rather than the partition etc.

Maybe this is of any help:
http://help.bombich.com/faqs/advanc...egies/subfolder

You won't be able to boot from it though, as is confirmed in the above article.

I didn't read all the replies here... but the absolute fastest way to do this would be with SUPER DUPER.

I'd boot machine 2 into Target Disc Mode and plug it into machine 1 that you want to clone. You can instruct Super Duper to make bit for bit bootable clones on machine 2.

It also has scripts you can write (really easy) to sync drives after the fact. check it out, or not

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