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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-20-2010 17:22:

Kids and Music

A few on here are at that age. I've always wondered if the second you have kids, you kinda stop caring about music in terms of striving for perfection and it becomes alot less stress as you are obviously passing the torch to your smarter better looking kids. I worry that I would not have time but then I think, why would I even want to put that time in when I don't really care as much about being the absolute best I can be.

I'm not having any anytime soon but It is a concern. Not that they will cut into my work but rather they remind me of myself and as a result I just sort of neglect them.


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-20-2010 17:54:

I wouldn't say you stop caring about music, for me anyway's I just found it hard to find time to make music after the first two years my son was born. But then again its just a hobby for me, its not my profession. I do get more time these days, my biggest problem now though is the wife


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-20-2010 18:09:

Re: Kids and Music

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
Not that they will cut into my work but rather they remind me of myself and as a result I just sort of neglect them.

With thoughts like that it might be better if you don't have kids.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-20-2010 18:12:

it thought the humour was obvious.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-20-2010 18:26:

Me too.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-20-2010 18:53:

My son is 3, but my interest in music was in a state of steady decline for about 10 years before he was born. I had already transitioned from music being my primary source of income to having a completely different career in aquatic sciences. I was very happy to make that transition - my career is much more secure, income is much greater, etc. So, I'm definitely in a different situation than the OP. But, I can say that I made some pretty big changes in my "real job" when my son was born.

I was a pretty serious workaholic for the first 6 or 7 years of my new career and was motivated to climb to the top of my firm as fast as possible and make a name for myself, but once my son was born, that changed quite a bit. My job takes a (very close) back seat to my family and one of my biggest struggles is maintaining that family/career balance. I've got to put food on the table and think about the future, retirement, my son's education, etc., but not work so hard that I don't have time to spend with my family and still find time for some selfish "me time" (trust me, it becomes far more important, yet much more difficult to come by than you might expect).

So, yeah, having kids will change everything - your perspectives on life, your priorities, your calendar, your bank account, your relationship with your spouse, your sleep, etc. etc. etc. I'm definitely one of those people who said, "naw that won't happen to me" (as evidenced by the fact that I waited until I was 40 to have a kid), but here I am, enjoying everything that everybody ever told me would happen. And, I don't regret one aspect of it. Playing in front of 10,000 people doesn't come close to the satisfaction I get out of watching my 3-yo drag all of his percussion toys out on the studio floor, bashing the hell out of them for a half hour, and singing "Wheels on the Bus".

Here he is when was just over a year old:


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-20-2010 19:57:

so awesome!!! kids are swell. Pretty good looking chap. WHen did you adopt?


Posted by J.L. on Nov-20-2010 20:00:

That's awesome cryo... glad to see that


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-20-2010 20:44:

at first i bet time is a bit problematic but that will be under control after some years id imagine. lack of time (because your life will be pretty different, at least im told) always goes out on music first as it demands alot of focus, concentration and inspiration. but if you cut out alcohol, tv and friends its amazing what you can find time and energy for. i dont think its a problem, but u might find out that other things than music are more important. but if youd like to constribute anything to the world, dont reproduce your american ass. (just in case)


Posted by Notle on Nov-20-2010 20:58:

I have also one 3 year old son and second child coming next month Glad i have my own room. hehe. And after work ,feeding and playing and brushing teeth and stuff i still have my couple of hours after my wife and kid is sleeping. And i still think i got enough time to make music and other stuff.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-20-2010 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
WHen did you adopt?


Funny you mention that, because we get asked that a lot - my wife has long jet black hair and I have dark brown hair. People always have this suspicious tone in their voice when they ask us where he got the blonde hair from.

But, the funny part is that I actually WAS adopted when I was about the same age (13 months) and he looks almost exactly like I did at that age, blonde hair and all.

quote:
Originally posted by Notle
I have also one 3 year old son and second child coming next month


Congrats! I can't imagine chasing more than one of them around!


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-20-2010 21:33:

I had white blonde hair till the age of 3 and then it went all sour brown. According to my parents, I was a rather ugly baby as I was like 5 months premature and looked like a reptile. Maybe it was one month. I don't like small spaces so it makes sense that I wanted out.


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-20-2010 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
So, yeah, having kids will change everything - your perspectives on life, your priorities, your calendar, your bank account, your relationship with your spouse, your sleep, etc. etc. etc. I'm definitely one of those people who said, "naw that won't happen to me" (as evidenced by the fact that I waited until I was 40 to have a kid), but here I am, enjoying everything that everybody ever told me would happen. And, I don't regret one aspect of it. Playing in front of 10,000 people doesn't come close to the satisfaction I get out of watching my 3-yo drag all of his percussion toys out on the studio floor, bashing the hell out of them for a half hour, and singing "Wheels on the Bus".


This is so true. Seeing your children writing their name for the first time, or more recently, riding a bike with no stabilizers will give you a bigger buzz than any drug could ever give you. As cryo mentioned, just the random silly things that they do is so great and gives you so much satisfaction, nothing can beat it. I used to hate babys and children, I never seen myself as a dad until it happened, but I'm so glad it did and wouldn't change it for the world.


Posted by music2dance2 on Nov-21-2010 20:09:

Its natural to feel things get harder with kids, I thought that to. And now I have a child its is. But its not impossible, infact its far from that. You just find time, like anything. Someone mentioned cutting out/down drinking party, tv and other things like and you free up loads of time, thats if you dont have kids but I guess applies to everyone.

When you have less time to produce you tend to focus more because time is precious. You find a routine and it works.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Nov-21-2010 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
so awesome!!! kids are swell. Pretty good looking chap. WHen did you adopt?


honestly, i'm a fan of your humour.


Posted by Notle on Nov-22-2010 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik

Congrats! I can't imagine chasing more than one of them around!


Thanks much. Me either, but my wife thinks different just joking...

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2

When you have less time to produce you tend to focus more because time is precious. You find a routine and it works.



This is absolutely right, you dont spend so much time reading these forums because your time is so limited.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-22-2010 12:08:

I think there's some kind of strange paradox at work when it comes to my music hobby and my child. I didn't start really making music until he was born 2 1/2 years ago, i'm not sure what the connection is.

On the one hand he saps all the time and energy required to create, but on the other hand his imminent arrival was a catalyst in me doing something i'd planned to do for 20 years, but never got round to due to other more hedonistic pastimes.

Luckily for me I don't define myself by whatever lashed together creations happen this week and it's all a bit of fun.

It's easy to think of children as an end of something, but until you have them you'll never understand. I always wonder what the fuck I was doing with my life until the man arrived.


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2010 14:36:

I fit studio time in fine, either after 9 when they go to bed or at weekends when they're on the wii. This weekend I stripped and decorated the lounge, spent good time with them and got my most satisfying track yet made - so it can be done.

It struck me how many big name producers now are like middle aged Bankers - it really is a pro business if you like.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-22-2010 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
like middle aged Bankers



That's exactly how I think of you and Dave


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2010 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
That's exactly how I think of you and Dave


Damn you Sir, if your'e not the worst kind of swine (said in an olde English tone)


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-22-2010 16:24:

Nobody would ever trust me around that much money.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-22-2010 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Nobody would ever trust me around that much money.



Another failure to translate.



Cockney rhyming slang


Banker = ?


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-22-2010 17:30:



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