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Posted by jupiterone on Nov-23-2010 06:13:

downsides of making money off music

last minute request to mix an album by thanksgiving.

that is all.


Posted by MSZ on Nov-23-2010 10:14:

cool thread bro


Posted by Xilver on Nov-23-2010 13:12:

hidden brag?


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-23-2010 13:15:

I'd say it's rather obvious. At least he's happy with it so it seems.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-23-2010 13:20:

no dental


Posted by Rodri Santos on Nov-23-2010 13:54:

i'm wandering in the realm of ignorance here.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-23-2010 14:03:

@TS and your point is?!?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-23-2010 15:40:

Re: downsides of making money off music

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
last minute request to mix an album by thanksgiving.

that is all.


outsource. I've found that you should always have someone that can do your job just incase your swamped or you are recovering from a 4 day meth fuelled gay romp. I suppose it could be a straight romp but where is the danger in that ? From what Rann tells me, barebacking with a sizeable chance of getting the AIDS is like skydiving. The rush is just incredible. Apparently.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-23-2010 15:59:

the downside is loosing integrity.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-23-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
the downside is loosing integrity.

Try tightening it back.


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-23-2010 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Try tightening it back.


Tighten the downside?


Posted by jupiterone on Nov-23-2010 16:54:

the meth binges are the worst. and a loose downside.


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-23-2010 16:55:

Re: downsides of making money off music

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
last minute request to mix an album by thanksgiving.

that is all.


I actually got a similar thing today. A pretty large feature packed website that should supposedly should be done within 7 or so working days. I told them I could finish it in time if they would have sent it about a month ago and would have tripled the budget.

Sometimes saying no makes you more pro.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-23-2010 17:05:

I disagree. Saying no kills that bridge. They will never come back. That is why you need people that can do your work if you are swamped. PAss the work to a colleague. You don't even have to keep it a secret. You're answer should never be no. Not in the music business, not in the internet business. Even if your friend does the website, they will remember you making it happen and you will get the future business.

Saying no does not make you look pro, it makes you look like an asshole. Of course there are limits but if it is a respectable client, then the answer is yes. The yes part is that I can help you get this done. how it happens, well that is up to you and your connections. You have nothing to gain by saying no.


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-23-2010 17:06:

I've never really lost a client thus far. Just some independent jobs. They just put the job somewhere else and come back later because they're unhappy about the others.

This includes small time developers as well as multi million $ worldwide companies and local governments.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-23-2010 17:08:

Develop a network of equally talented people. You send them work when they are not busy, they send you work. That is how the world works.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-23-2010 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Tighten the downside?

I guess that works too.


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-23-2010 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
Develop a network of equally talented people. You send them work when they are not busy, they send you work. That is how the world works.


I agree. Unfortunately I don't come across them too often. I'd rather say no than not live up to the job or pass it on to someone I don't trust. The clients usually know exactly why I have to decline on a job. This time the moot point is actually incompetence of the clients. Unrealistic deadlines (because of the design phase took weeks too long) and actually a concept that is doomed to fail even before it is ever launched. I'll pass and let someone else take the fall on this.

Also, I think the working culture in America is quite different than the european working morale. Same applies for music vs internet industry, right?


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Nov-24-2010 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
cool thread bro


Haha.


Posted by alexlosy on Nov-25-2010 11:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I disagree. Saying no kills that bridge. They will never come back. That is why you need people that can do your work if you are swamped. PAss the work to a colleague. You don't even have to keep it a secret. You're answer should never be no. Not in the music business, not in the internet business. Even if your friend does the website, they will remember you making it happen and you will get the future business.

Saying no does not make you look pro, it makes you look like an asshole. Of course there are limits but if it is a respectable client, then the answer is yes. The yes part is that I can help you get this done. how it happens, well that is up to you and your connections. You have nothing to gain by saying no.


I've learned the slightly harder way that if you cannot honour a promise, despite your best intentions, you should ALWAYS say no!



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