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Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 10:55:

Fl Studio Limitations

Could someone please explain the limitation's regarding sound quality output compared to a program like cubase for example, what makes a program better than the other?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Nov-29-2010 11:02:

Re: Fl Studio Limitations

quote:
Originally posted by cabledigital
what makes a program better than the other?

The person using it.


Posted by JEO on Nov-29-2010 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
8. What sequencer should I use?
Which car should you drive? Which cell phone plan should you pick? Should you BBQ that hot dog or nuke it?

Who cares? All cars get you from point A to point B, assuming you know how to drive. All cell plans will allow you to call your friends, assuming you pay your bills. And as long as that meat is cooked, it doesn't really matter how. They're all tools, and although everybody has their personal preferences, they all get the job done. Sure - some cost a fraction of the price that others cost because they're less sophisticated. At the same time, if you're just beginning to produce, then you're shooting yourself in the foot if you automatically dive into the most complex programs available.

Most software vendors will make a trial version of their program(s) available. The best way to find out which sequencer you should use is to try all of them out and see which one suits you best.

Unless you're trying to incite another forum war, you don't want to ask this question. You don't even want to tiptoe around it. People argue enough about this topic *without* being prompted for their opinions.



+1

Try them all out (demos), and choose the one that you feel suits you best. As said, I think they all get the job done.

Edit.Audio Myths & DAW wars

If there's a difference in sound qualities, your ears can't really tell. Get the settings right, and the output should be the same as in any DAW imo..


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 20:25:

im not convinced. sorry.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-29-2010 20:32:

bit depth and samplerate.... summing is identical. there are several threads on Gearslutz explaining this into depth.


Posted by -FSP- on Nov-29-2010 20:46:

If it can support samples, vsts, has multi tracks, fx, and automation, then your sequencer can pretty much do anything.


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
bit depth and samplerate.... summing is identical. there are several threads on Gearslutz explaining this into depth.


Thankyou so much you have helped me by just showing me this

Appreciate it heaps thanks guys!!


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 21:31:

Rasta

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
If it can support samples, vsts, has multi tracks, fx, and automation, then your sequencer can pretty much do anything.


Thanks


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by JEO
+1

Try them all out (demos), and choose the one that you feel suits you best. As said, I think they all get the job done.

Edit.Audio Myths & DAW wars

If there's a difference in sound qualities, your ears can't really tell. Get the settings right, and the output should be the same as in any DAW imo..


Yeah i'm about to invest heavily, but just seeing if i can save $$$ anywhere.. appreciate your help


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 21:34:

Re: Re: Fl Studio Limitations

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The person using it.


Fair call bro, i agree!! But when i bump into hardcore software guru's in my local town they load me up with false info


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-29-2010 23:23:

If you plan on going out and buying a shitton of hardware to use alongside FL that may not be your best bet as FL does not integrate hardware as wisely as some other programs do (or so I'm told but I've also had issues integrating my virus the way I'd prefer, there are definitely limitations are far as hardware goes but not software).

Still though, FL is a wonderful program and on its own its very intuitive and clearly laid out. I've been using it since 2002 and although I've been tempted to go to Logic theres no real reason unless I decide to go splurge on some more hardsynths. Also by rewiring reason you get the benefits of reasons low use cpu software and I find myself rewiring now all the time. Its a great way to get more sounds on cpu restricted computers... although this will be changing in 2 days when my 6 core AMD gets here.


Posted by owien on Nov-29-2010 23:44:

a good soundcard and moniters is the most important thing what daw you use is not really that important


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-29-2010 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
If you plan on going out and buying a shitton of hardware to use alongside FL that may not be your best bet as FL does not integrate hardware as wisely as some other programs do (or so I'm told but I've also had issues integrating my virus the way I'd prefer, there are definitely limitations are far as hardware goes but not software).

Still though, FL is a wonderful program and on its own its very intuitive and clearly laid out. I've been using it since 2002 and although I've been tempted to go to Logic theres no real reason unless I decide to go splurge on some more hardsynths. Also by rewiring reason you get the benefits of reasons low use cpu software and I find myself rewiring now all the time. Its a great way to get more sounds on cpu restricted computers... although this will be changing in 2 days when my 6 core AMD gets here.


Hell's yeah thats great advice... hmmm i still have more research to do by reading your comment.. thanks again


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-30-2010 10:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Also by rewiring reason you get the benefits of reasons low use cpu software and I find myself rewiring now all the time. Its a great way to get more sounds on cpu restricted computers..


Are you sure about this? Surely running two sequencers at the same time will use more cpu and ram. When I first made the jump to using live from reason, I still rewired so a could use redrum. Live would max out quicker with the two running, so I finaly got rid of reason and now use drumrack or simpler and not as much cpu.

Reason is pretty cool though, and I do miss using it now and then, but advice to the op would be to stay away from rewiring if your just starting out, pick a daw and stick with it. You will learn it much quicker than trying to learn two via rewire.


Posted by itsamemario on Nov-30-2010 16:24:

lol sean spence? isn't that the guy from Psych (which is by far better than the *gag* mentalist)


Posted by cabledigital on Nov-30-2010 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
lol sean spence? isn't that the guy from Psych (which is by far better than the *gag* mentalist)


sean spence is not a psychic, he enjoys rockclimbing and ice sorting.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Dec-01-2010 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Are you sure about this? Surely running two sequencers at the same time will use more cpu and ram. When I first made the jump to using live from reason, I still rewired so a could use redrum. Live would max out quicker with the two running, so I finaly got rid of reason and now use drumrack or simpler and not as much cpu.

Reason is pretty cool though, and I do miss using it now and then, but advice to the op would be to stay away from rewiring if your just starting out, pick a daw and stick with it. You will learn it much quicker than trying to learn two via rewire.


On my CPU with Fl open by itself its not even 1% cpu, and 74mb ram.
With Reason and FL open its 2% cpu and 156mb ram.

So yes it will use a tiny tiny bit more ram/cpu.
But, if you are using Reason for its instruments (not sure why else you'd be rewiring really), you're going to compensate by using less vsts in FL studio, which for me results in a large overall drop of CPU.
If I open z3ta in FL Studio, CPU often jumps to 6-10%, if I route subtractor through FL's mixer, my cpu doesn't even go up 1%. So the more synths from Reason that I can use in place of my gotos for FL, the lower my cpu always winds up being.
I think even if you're using a CPU efficient synth like sylenth or albino that Reason still trumps in terms of cpu no matter what. I do know though just by rewiring reason I always can get another 8-10 vsts in a project and by using FL alone thats not happening. So I find it rather weird you're computer is maxing out quicker with reason open.
The only way I see that happening is if Live uses less CPU than reason and I definitely don't think thats true. But maybe another live users would know better than me. I've used it before and never noticed much difference at all in terms of CPU, just never rewired reason with it.


Posted by Andy28 on Dec-01-2010 07:24:

You can't compere z3ta to a single instance of subtractor, for that matter does fl not have its own synth that could probably do the same job more efficiently?


Posted by JEO on Dec-01-2010 07:59:

Definitely. IMO Sytrus can do anything you want, if you have the will to put on some effort. It doesn't have "trance saw waveform x2", or "trance gate" in it, but I coped. I'm running a 3,2 ghz dual-core from say 2005-2006.

If it's intentional just to test it's cpu-efficiency, ok. It lacks in some areas.



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