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Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 11:43:

G-CAM Synth squad as an insert effect - how to?

I've just discovered using GCAM synths as insert FX and find the filter options very useful for bringing toms to life.

However I want to render them to audio using an export or by freezing the channel. I do this to save cpu even though I have a fairly powerful set up. I have other fx on the channel too so the cpu load can get quite big.

Ok, so here's the problem; To make sure GCAM stays 'on' you have to turn on the 'hold' button on the synth. I had a gut feel this would not work as I find code writers often do not think ahead as to how users will actualy want to work. Sure enough it doesn't work. When you come to render to audio the whole lane stays silent as the synth doesn't 'remember' it's on hold and supposed to stay that way.

In other words it only works when a lane is not frozen or when your not trying to export.

Anyone have a work around?

At the mo I have to re-record back thru the monitors using a mic!!


Posted by tehlord on Nov-29-2010 11:52:

Weird

Are you using Cubase?


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Weird

Are you using Cubase?


Yeah.

FX Pansion should nhave prgrammed it so that it just remains open when used as an insert and not rely on thier clunky 'hold' button which is tempramanetal (sp) - even when just doing a routine project save whilst carrying on working, gcam forgets it's on hold and so shuts off any sound routed through it.

I have emailed them but I wont hold my breath.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-29-2010 12:38:

I assume you've tried a realtime export (which is supposed to be more selective about how it reads plugin states?)

Alternatively you could try running the solo'd channel through ASIO4ALL and recording it into Audacity?


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-29-2010 16:27:

It works with DCAM. Maybe try that one instead.


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
It works with DCAM. Maybe try that one instead.



Sorry mate, I'm not following you?

You said 'it works with DCAM' but this is the synth I am talking about - DCAM.

FX Pansion who makew DCAM, just replied and said I have to make a midi track?

Not sure what this means (I know what a midi track is) - how will that allow me to use dcam as an insert?


Posted by tehlord on Nov-29-2010 16:49:

Doesn't make sense to me. A midi channel just sends note and change data afaik.

Have you tried creating an FX channel and using it as a send instead?

You're using it as a simple filter right?


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sorry mate, I'm not following you?

You said 'it works with DCAM' but this is the synth I am talking about - DCAM.

FX Pansion who makew DCAM, just replied and said I have to make a midi track?

Not sure what this means (I know what a midi track is) - how will that allow me to use dcam as an insert effect on another synth?


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Doesn't make sense to me. A midi channel just sends note and change data afaik.

Have you tried creating an FX channel and using it as a send instead?

You're using it as a simple filter right?


Tried this, but does not work as you cannot tell the stupid synth to stay open, so it self shuts and wont allow anything through unitl a note is pressed - thats the problem.

Somehow I have to be able to trigger and sustain a note to make the synth open, and then play another synth through it (so it acts like an effect), which works fine until you come to export or freeze a track. When trying to render to audio the synth does not open to allow a sound through it!

I think there must be a way of rounting various things together, but have not figured it yet.


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-29-2010 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sorry mate, I'm not following you?

You said 'it works with DCAM' but this is the synth I am talking about - DCAM.



Rich your original post say's "G" CAM not "D".

Are they the same? Not familiar with them or was it just a typo?


Posted by Subtle on Nov-29-2010 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
It works with DCAM. Maybe try that one instead.


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-29-2010 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Rich your original post say's "G" CAM not "D".

Are they the same? Not familiar with them or was it just a typo?


Ha!

I meant D-Cam Synth Squad by FX Pansion. Stoopid name if you ask me!


Posted by Raphie on Nov-29-2010 20:52:

Load Dcam in VST instruments driven via a midi ch, rather than an instrument ch.


Posted by Andy28 on Nov-29-2010 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Ha!

I meant D-Cam Synth Squad by FX Pansion. Stoopid name if you ask me!


D'oh

Can't you automate its power button to stay on??



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