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Posted by corjay9 on Dec-02-2010 04:39:

Carlo Lio @ UN Dec 16

Awesome booking, I've been looking forward to his return to Montreal. I missed him at Circus last time, was going to Stereo that weekend. Anyone go? How was his set? He was awesome opening for Dubfire last April. He's my favorite producer at the moment, his tracks and remixes always have such a sexy vibe, thick bass lines and crisp percussion.. he's always experimenting with drum kits too, as his tracks are all different yet he still has his own "sound." There was a really good article on beatport about him last month, lately he's mixing on Traktor with 2 X1s these days...

I've yet to go to UN, we're always talking about it but even my non-house music loving friends LOVE going to Daome so we always end up there. I've heard the soundsystem is great, and so's the crowd. I'm guessing there's no tickets, just show up early? What's cover?

PUMPED!

Posted by DarknessBrotha on Dec-02-2010 04:47:

AGREED. Pumped as well. Saw the confirmation saturday morning.
I've been waiting for his return for a while. I went for Dubfire, but Missed his opener though. Caught him at the Gaya Fest and had the chance to chat with him a bit. He's been a favorite of mine for the last year and bit, his tracks are spot on, really get its and has that signature sound. Deep, Sexy, Chuggy...UN's the perfect spot for the evening. Looking forward to this one.

Attached is a recent Mix: Enjoy

Carlo Lio: Sept 2010

Posted by corjay9 on Dec-02-2010 05:00:

Awesome! Listening now.. also here's the beatportal article, I thought it was very interesting. Great questions asked.

http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item...rade-carlo-lio/

Posted by OkiDokie on Dec-02-2010 15:17:

The day after my last final. Perfect timing

Posted by Knox on Dec-02-2010 16:27:

Awesome. Have fun guys!

Such a great DJ... and person as well.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...478&forumid=12&

Posted by Spin Laden on Dec-02-2010 16:39:

caught him on a boat cruise and Skybar but something like an afters would be proper instead of UN, imo

Posted by Spin Laden on Dec-02-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
Awesome. Have fun guys!

Such a great DJ... and person as well.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...478&forumid=12&

read every single post and yeah, much more deserving than that other Ontario dj

Posted by Knox on Dec-02-2010 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
caught him on a boat cruise and Skybar but something like an afters would be proper instead of UN, imo

haha... Zone....

for my bachelor party fest last year, we caught him in Gallary for a 5 hour and then followed him to zone the next night for a 4 hour set...

Posted by brancatella on Dec-02-2010 17:51:

i heard his set wasn't very good at circus, same kind of tracks over and over. also his productions are pretty repetitive, and his kick drum is always the same just tuned differently with different variations of the same percussion and timbre detail. either take a break from releasing or just release your best stuff. I honestly do not get the hype about this guy. I guess anyone warming up for Dubfire will get this much of attention.

and does anyone else think watching djs with just a laptop and controllers is boring? might as well make the mix in a studio, press play, sit back and have a drink. i know some of you guys will fire back about looping and all that shit, but its just not appealing to me...i like to see djs mix and beatmatch and not just stare at their laptop screen.

Posted by DarknessBrotha on Dec-02-2010 18:16:

You're right he does have a lot of Productions that have very similar sounds and I know what you mean by that. For example,
His tracks Back Spin & Je Taime are very close to each other.
One of the few haven't had the chance to see, that's why I'm looking forward to catching him and then seeing for myself.

I agree with you on the whole Laptop DJ set up....Its not appealing to me either, especially if they're not reading the crowd and especially the enviroment. I understand working with one and what it does enable one to do, giving you more tools to put on a better show, but when its strictly a laptop...its pretty dull imo.

In the summer, we went to check Calderone at Gaya fest...the entire time, he was staring into his laptop completley zoned out and paying no attention to how the crowd was receving it. For all we knew, it was from a previous set the night before cause it did not blend at all with the setting. Since then I completely lost interest and I was a die hard Victor Fan since 02.

Before that we saw Audio Fly, with a Pair of Decks and Mixer.
Wasn't my first choice of tunes...but they were really working it,
experimenting with the crowd & their music, reading and seeing what moved the crowd. They had a lot of showmanship and took chances.
For that I'd go see them again.

Posted by Spin Laden on Dec-02-2010 18:52:

read the interview in the link that Knox posted.. Lio misses playing vinyls too.

Posted by Spin Laden on Dec-02-2010 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
[color=red]haha... Zone....

been there once.. I think they had free doughnuts there even.. or was that Mavericks in Ottawa?

Posted by princesultan on Dec-02-2010 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by brancatella
i heard his set wasn't very good at circus, same kind of tracks over and over. also his productions are pretty repetitive, and his kick drum is always the same just tuned differently with different variations of the same percussion and timbre detail. either take a break from releasing or just release your best stuff. I honestly do not get the hype about this guy. I guess anyone warming up for Dubfire will get this much of attention.

and does anyone else think watching djs with just a laptop and controllers is boring? might as well make the mix in a studio, press play, sit back and have a drink. i know some of you guys will fire back about looping and all that shit, but its just not appealing to me...i like to see djs mix and beatmatch and not just stare at their laptop screen.

i agree with you to an extent.

first off, i'm a big carlo lio fan. i love the shit he puts out.

second off, i also like to see a dj work for his mixes, ie. beatmatching and all that, but let's face it, beatmatching isn't going to stick around. it's quite clear that everything is moving to 100% digital, and that's cool with me. as long as it sounds good, i'm down.

what i don't get is mixing 4 decks just for the sake of mixing 4 decks. if you can do something REALLY interesting with 4 decks, loops, effects, etc., then go for it and autosync. but if you're just syncing for the sake of syncing, and just mixing 4 decks just because you can, and not really adding anything to the mix, that's the kind of thing i don't get.

Posted by corjay9 on Dec-02-2010 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by brancatella
i heard his set wasn't very good at circus, same kind of tracks over and over. also his productions are pretty repetitive, and his kick drum is always the same just tuned differently with different variations of the same percussion and timbre detail. either take a break from releasing or just release your best stuff. I honestly do not get the hype about this guy. I guess anyone warming up for Dubfire will get this much of attention.

and does anyone else think watching djs with just a laptop and controllers is boring? might as well make the mix in a studio, press play, sit back and have a drink. i know some of you guys will fire back about looping and all that shit, but its just not appealing to me...i like to see djs mix and beatmatch and not just stare at their laptop screen.

The formula to his tracks are repetitive, but I've yet to discover an artist who makes tech house sound so sexy. 124 BPM, deep thick basslines, looped vocals chopped up, and just massive drops. I'd prefer to see him in an afterhours because I think thats more his style, guess I'll see what kind of set he spins at UN. As far as I'm concerned what you're complaining about that his drum kits are just varients of eachother, well.. thats 'his' sound, isn't that what that is? It's not like Deadmau5 where he's still using the exact same Faxing Berlin kick or anything hahaha..

And to be honest, I'm more a hardware guy myself. I prefer using actual decks and CDs, but when I'm at Stereo or Circus I'm very rarely even looking at the DJ, I like to look at the crowd, look at my friends, my surroundings and soak it all up. As long as the DJ is playing the crowd well and the vibe is great, I could care less what the DJ is doing up there.. only exception is Daome where I'll watch whats going on in the mirror all the time hahaha.. I get what you're saying, but Lio's experimenting just like all the greats. Sasha pioneered laptop DJing on ableton, and now he's back to spinning on CDJs.

Posted by brancatella on Dec-03-2010 02:12:

His tracks are definitely produced well, i just think too many of them sound the same. Probably cause he's had a lot of requests to do EPs/remixes and i wouldn't blame him for accepting them.

And my problem with full digital setups is just personal, I was just seeing what you guys think of that topic. Personally, i do tend to look at the dj sometimes, to see what they're doing, especially if i paid money to see them and if they're staring at their laptop for the entire set it becomes pretty boring. if you're just using it as a tool to select tracks I can understand that. But you're right that the whole party aspect is not just watching the dj play, definitely not.

Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-03-2010 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by princesultan
what i don't get is mixing 4 decks just for the sake of mixing 4 decks. if you can do something REALLY interesting with 4 decks, loops, effects, etc., then go for it and autosync. but if you're just syncing for the sake of syncing, and just mixing 4 decks just because you can, and not really adding anything to the mix, that's the kind of thing i don't get.

+1

Personally I don't get why anyone would want to mix 4 decks worth of anything, but I put that down largely to genre preference. I think this approach doesn't fit for most house but it does for techno. Some people think the more a DJ is doing, the better they must be. I think the better they sound, by whatever means, the better job they're doing.

Posted by zeKsg on Dec-03-2010 06:11:

Posted by corjay9 on Dec-03-2010 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by brancatella
And my problem with full digital setups is just personal, I was just seeing what you guys think of that topic. Personally, i do tend to look at the dj sometimes, to see what they're doing, especially if i paid money to see them and if they're staring at their laptop for the entire set it becomes pretty boring. if you're just using it as a tool to select tracks I can understand that. But you're right that the whole party aspect is not just watching the dj play, definitely not.

I'll agree with you that if the DJ is just staring blankly at his laptop for 3 hours it is a bit boring, I like to see the DJ enjoying his music and nodding his head and having a good time while reading the crowd, it does seem that laptop DJs don't have time to do this as they are so focused on the screen. I've even heard that quite a few DJs who don't use laptops don't even like the CDJ-2000s cuz the screen is just too big and distracting, go figure.

Posted by Spin Laden on Dec-03-2010 15:00:

they should all be like Prydz and Digweed

Posted by Marcus007 on Dec-03-2010 17:48:

im with bran on this one... but it's really case to case... some djs use laptop djing in a really creative way instead of just linking two tracks together... yet others dont... so technology is what you make of it

Posted by Ravemontreal on Dec-03-2010 18:04:

The same debate over and over again, always come down to the same conclusion:

It as to FEEL GOOD.

Mixtapes, vinyls, CDs, Traktor, Ableton, 2 decks, 4 decks, 8 decks,...

It's all about personality and what you have in your head. Technology can't replace that.

Posted by Marcus007 on Dec-03-2010 18:07:

are you excited for tonight martin?

Posted by brancatella on Dec-03-2010 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by zeKsg
Bran I have to disagree, and I am not even gonna mention looping... Being able to load tracks and play them instantly is key... Take the djs who play 3-4 decks constantly having 2 tracks going, this is impossible to do as efficiently with decks... You can really create MORE with that laptop and controller...

Lots of djs just don't use the possibilities...

I think the rule of mixing more then 2 decks if you think a sound is extra and just clusters the mix it shouldn't be there....

I think my issue is djs not using decks. people like carola or loco dice do stuff you're talking about, like having three channels going constantly, and they use delay pedals and effects over the tracks but they still use turntables and beatmatch. Something about just a laptop and a mixer turns me off, like watching chris liebing videos is the most boring shit I've ever seen. but it's just my opinion, some people love it and thats cool too.

another issue I have is with traktor's sound card: if you're playing mp3's through your laptop then through your soundcard to the mixer, it will not sound as good as playing the same mp3 from a cd or usb connected to a cdj. it just won't. the more connections that are made will reduce sound quality. I talked to Tobi Neumann this summer when I randomly saw him at inbeat and that's what he said too, and he's heard djs play all over the world in some of the best sounding clubs. maybe when they improve the sound quality, ill take some time to try the software or at least have a less negative view of it.

Posted by brancatella on Dec-03-2010 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
The same debate over and over again, always come down to the same conclusion:

It as to FEEL GOOD.

Mixtapes, vinyls, CDs, Traktor, Ableton, 2 decks, 4 decks, 8 decks,...

It's all about personality and what you have in your head. Technology can't replace that.

i agree. but like i said my issue was personal and nothing more really.

Posted by zeKsg on Dec-03-2010 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by brancatella
I think my issue is djs not using decks. people like carola or loco dice do stuff you're talking about, like having three channels going constantly, and they use delay pedals and effects over the tracks but they still use turntables and beatmatch. Something about just a laptop and a mixer turns me off, like watching chris liebing videos is the most boring shit I've ever seen. but it's just my opinion, some people love it and thats cool too.

another issue I have is with traktor's sound card: if you're playing mp3's through your laptop then through your soundcard to the mixer, it will not sound as good as playing the same mp3 from a cd or usb connected to a cdj. it just won't. the more connections that are made will reduce sound quality. I talked to Tobi Neumann this summer when I randomly saw him at inbeat and that's what he said too, and he's heard djs play all over the world in some of the best sounding clubs. maybe when they improve the sound quality, ill take some time to try the software or at least have a less negative view of it.

Go see T47... bran, you can't do what he does with cdjs, he doesn't use any efx in his CLR podcasts and it already sounds crazy... When you see him live this guy uses the most unorthodox effects to make the craziest shit I have ever seen...

I don't know whats boring about Liebing man, maybe you just don't enjoy what he plays...

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