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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-02-2010 18:36:

Tom Flanagan is for assassination of Assange



I'm sure Harper has learned a lot from this idiot.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-02-2010 18:57:

Yeah lets just kill everyone that is speaking up. Killing him will clearly solve this and we will never have any leaks on this kind... does Tom Flanagan not understand that killing Assange will not stop these leaks to surface?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-02-2010 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Yeah lets just kill everyone that is speaking up. Killing him will clearly solve this and we will never have any leaks on this kind... does Tom Flanagan not understand that killing Assange will not stop these leaks to surface?


I'm sure he was joking....which in my opinion is even worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Assange is assassinated though.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-02-2010 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I wouldn't be surprised if Assange is assassinated though.


Same here. If Assange goes down there will be more and more people coming out like him leaking out the information to the public. I believe that he has started a revolution and killing him will not end what he has already started.


Posted by Scoops on Dec-02-2010 20:06:

Assange kinda looks like


Posted by VDub on Dec-02-2010 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I'm sure he was joking....which in my opinion is even worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Assange is assassinated though.


I'll bet anything that he immediately regretted that comment...


Posted by Magnetonium on Dec-02-2010 23:55:


Wikileaks will be shut down or castrated sooner or later, it is only a matter of time. You just can't fight big government, especially when you take on both USA AND Russia.

Those rape charges are clearly false, DDOS attacks are by Americans, and Amazon dropped the hosting for Wikileaks because of American government pressure. Just read the signs, the writing's on the wall.


Posted by VDub on Dec-03-2010 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium

Wikileaks will be shut down or castrated sooner or later, it is only a matter of time. You just can't fight big government, especially when you take on both USA AND Russia.

Those rape charges are clearly false, DDOS attacks are by Americans, and Amazon dropped the hosting for Wikileaks because of American government pressure. Just read the signs, the writing's on the wall.


The thing is that now that they've started it, they will be replaced if shut down...

The gov is just going to have to ramp up security...


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-03-2010 00:37:

Assange should be tried for High Treason.


Posted by devnull on Dec-03-2010 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Assange should be tried for High Treason.


tried by who? hes not subject to USA...hes not a US citizen AFAIK


I think what he's doing is great. Too much shaddy business happening around the world and hes revealing some of it.


Posted by jad on Dec-03-2010 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
I think what he's doing is great. Too much shaddy business happening around the world and hes revealing some of it.


+1


Posted by jester on Dec-03-2010 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
tried by who? hes not subject to USA...hes not a US citizen AFAIK

I think what he's doing is great. Too much shaddy business happening around the world and hes revealing some of it.


True, but the US does some sketchy shit to get people. They can probably charge Assange under some bill or act they have in place for people outside of the country.

As for Assange, we all saw it coming that people would want him dead. I wish him the best of luck not getting his head chopped off by any western country.

He's like Salman Rushdie but instead the Americans and its allies want him dead.

Plus Amazon now being boycotted by Americans for hosting wikileaks.

What I find interesting... this all happens when Obama in power.


Posted by devnull on Dec-03-2010 03:20:

@jester I don't think having obama in office has any linkage to revealing this data now

I'm pretty sure most of the cables relates to stuff that occured in the bush era.

I think I need to start reading some more on wikileaks


Posted by jester on Dec-03-2010 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
@jester I don't think having obama in office has any linkage to revealing this data now

I'm pretty sure most of the cables relates to stuff that occured in the bush era.

I think I need to start reading some more on wikileaks


I think all are from the Bush era, but they came out now when Obama is power. It would have been interesting if it happened when Bush was in power. I can just imagine Dick Cheney getting his shotgun ready and calling up his palls at Blackwater to go duck hunting (i.e Assange hunting)


Posted by Magnetonium on Dec-03-2010 05:51:



I don't think they will kill Assange, that will only do Wikileaks even more publicity and more credibility. Americans will play their favourite and most successful political trick - undermining the enemy, portraying them as evil. They got the media on their side, it will not be hard. Plenty of ways to get it done. They will take the leaks and show how bad it is for the world and for the people, it's not that hard to achieve.

The global cloak of secrecy will remain in place, whats worse is that Wikileaks are making it worse. The lid will be tightened even more. They should have concentrated in releasing crucial WHISTLEBLOWER data, not massive 250,000-volume embassy transcripts. Isn't thats what Wikileaks was created to be originally? They did a great job with Iraq, by proving that Americans intentionally downgraded the number of civilian casualties. Bravo. Personally we don't need to know about retinal scan requests, thats embarrassing and humiliating. Its not the VOLUME of data that matters, but QUALITY. Sometimes I feel like Wikileaks are on a vendetta mission, publicity stunt. Thats not a very good long-term strategy.


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-03-2010 05:56:

amazing how everyone is targeting the US for "dirty shit" when the real dirty player right now is china. If people got a grip and opened their eyes they would see who the real problem is right now. Chinese imperialism will be unprecedented if we dont wake up soon. Id even say that the chinese are crafty enough to even be behind wikileaks to act as a distraction from the shit that they are up to!


Posted by The Potter on Dec-03-2010 08:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
amazing how everyone is targeting the US for "dirty shit" when the real dirty player right now is china. If people got a grip and opened their eyes they would see who the real problem is right now. Chinese imperialism will be unprecedented if we dont wake up soon. Id even say that the chinese are crafty enough to even be behind wikileaks to act as a distraction from the shit that they are up to!


But the Chinese don't go around trying to police the world and claiming to be the beacon of democracy, promoting good governance and transparency, hence why the hypocrisy of the US is all the more galling. Their long history of supporting and propping up dictatorships is a prime example. Ultimately, the principle that underlies their actions is of universal freedoms and rights, but with the huge proviso of only when it is in America's interest. Now, not only is this duplicity immoral, but the really ironic thing is that it may help in the short-term; however, in the long-run you tend to piss other countries/people off with your double standards, and give them a reason to hate you, which in fact makes Americans less safe.

Also, they are not just trying to hoodwink the rest of the world, but their own citizens. Whilst I accept that these releases should not happen in real-time, there is still room for improvement in the current system. Information releases should occur on a more regular basis (say, thrice a year) than currently occurs through freedom of information requests (many years later). This would prevent significant time lags between the government acting, and the servants of the people being held accountable for their behaviour. If only Wikileaks had been around to inform US citizens of the backroom lies that were being concocted to invade Iraq.



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