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Canada in TOP 10 of least corrupt nations in the world

I think that this is one of the most important markers in nation's prosperity and standing. Doesn't that make you proud? You don't have to worry about being pulled over and police officer demanding a bribe for a fake charge.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_...pi/2010/results

1. Denmark (SCORE: 9.3/10)
1. New Zealand
1. Singapore
4. Finland
4. Sweden
6. CANADA (SCORE: 9.1/10)
7. Netherlands
8. Australia
9. Switzerland
10. Norway
11. Iceland
12. Luxembourg
13. Hong Kong
14. Ireland
15. Austria
16. Germany
17. Barbados
18. Japan
19. Qatar
20. United Kingdom (SCORE: 7.6/10)

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175. Iraq (1.5/10)
176. Afghanistan (1.4/10)
176. Myanmar (1.4/10)
178. Somalia (1.1/10)

Full results and assessment, click the link.

Re: Canada in TOP 10 of least corrupt nations in the world

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Originally posted by Magnetonium 1. Singapoure 13. Honk Kong

who the fuck typed out this list?

I think Canada is in the top 10 of countries who are best able to hide corruption. Trust me, corruption is rampant in canada. But instead of being obvious about it, we bury it into mounds of regulation and red tape. Our system is built to serve politicians and hide it from the public. What do you think the real reason is that you need a permit to fart in this country for example? In other countries they would just say "if u want to continue farting you must give me an envelope full of 100s)" LOL


More rules, regulations, red tape = more reliance on government = more power and ability to get what you want from people.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I think Canada is in the top 10 of countries who are best able to hide corruption. Trust me, corruption is rampant in canada. But instead of being obvious about it, we bury it into mounds of regulation and red tape. Our system is built to serve politicians and hide it from the public. What do you think the real reason is that you need a permit to fart in this country for example? In other countries they would just say "if u want to continue farting you must give me an envelope full of 100s)" LOL More rules, regulations, red tape = more reliance on government = more power and ability to get what you want from people.

compared to what i've witnessed living in eastern europe, canada is complete 180 in terms of corruption and bribery.

it's a sad list if Canada is in top ten. our serious corruption is less serious compared to elsewhere. not very heartening.

I'd suggest people read through the methodology section of the report, while also keeping in mind what is actually being measured here, before simply accepting the conclusion in the thread title.

I wonder who we paid off to get in the top 10?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I think Canada is in the top 10 of countries who are best able to hide corruption. Trust me, corruption is rampant in canada. But instead of being obvious about it, we bury it into mounds of regulation and red tape. Our system is built to serve politicians and hide it from the public. What do you think the real reason is that you need a permit to fart in this country for example? In other countries they would just say "if u want to continue farting you must give me an envelope full of 100s)" LOL More rules, regulations, red tape = more reliance on government = more power and ability to get what you want from people.

Ye, and corporate redtape is so much cleaner. corruption is not only to do with governments man.

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Originally posted by MarkT I'd suggest people read through the methodology section of the report, while also keeping in mind what is actually being measured here, before simply accepting the conclusion in the thread title.

It's interesting how big this report is, and how little it shows. Asking someone in business in another country would net more useful info.

Re: Canada in TOP 10 of least corrupt nations in the world

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Originally posted by Magnetonium 178. Somalia (1.1/10)

Holy fuck

Anyone who says Canada shouldnt be in the top 10 obviously has never been outside of canada.

Also, im surprised Russia scored so well....

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Originally posted by MarkT I'd suggest people read through the methodology section of the report, while also keeping in mind what is actually being measured here, before simply accepting the conclusion in the thread title.

Yes indeed, I took the term "transparency" and made it into "least corrupt", without much explanation or comment. A lot of factors are measured in the report.

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Originally posted by kamil Anyone who says Canada shouldnt be in the top 10 obviously has never been outside of canada. Also, im surprised Russia scored so well....

I lived/been in dozens of countries, I can tell you firsthand that this report bears much validity, apart from some things that are hard to measure - for example, American government isn't as transparent as the rankings go, I'd say.

Russia's not so high in the list, what are you talking about, LOL ... they are ranked 150-something, thats just above Kyrgyzstan and just below Iran. Not a good place to be in comparison.

Probably not 100% accurate report, as some things are impossible to measure - especially when it comes to government transparency and corruption. Overall though its generally accurate, provides a very good overview.

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Originally posted by OkiDokie Holy fuck

Somalia hasn't had a functional government since 1991 or so. Lawlessness mostly, although in northern part of the country its much better (outside of Islamist control).

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You don't have to worry about being pulled over and police officer demanding a bribe for a fake charge.

Well, who's giving him that bribe? YOU!
People in ex-CCCP always break rules while driving, and when they get caught, they'll just say, Oh, I'll just pay a dude, instead of following regular procedure.
It's all starts with us, regular people, all this corruption and bribery, it's acceptable for YOU to give bribe to get something.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Russia's not so high in the list, what are you talking about, LOL ... they are ranked 150-something, thats just above Kyrgyzstan and just below Iran. Not a good place to be in comparison.

I was being facetious.

as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

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Originally posted by pozz Ye, and corporate redtape is so much cleaner. corruption is not only to do with governments man.

not saying it does. But corporate corruption (by a single company) is nowhere near as encompassing as government corruption.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

You sound just like my parents, its very scary actually

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Originally posted by Magnetonium You sound just like my parents, its very scary actually

lol! well they understand the system like i do i guess.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

And do Canadians ever care about what the government does? No. Theyre passive pussies.

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Originally posted by geroin compared to what i've witnessed living in eastern europe, canada is complete 180 in terms of corruption and bribery.

+ a lot

Re: Re: Canada in TOP 10 of least corrupt nations in the world

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Originally posted by chinamon who the fuck typed out this list?

The same who typed out Koreon.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

I blame parliamentary democracy. makes lobbying so much easier. corruption isnt just institutionalized -- its generated by business and government. its the underside of the official functioning, not some aberration or appropriated anomaly. you cant even separate government from business anymore -- and you cant separate either of these from the "business" of corruption. it include both the underhanded shit done by legal channels and all the stuff that is done by unofficial channels, all the networks of communication and exchange that are not officially recognized or dealt with. corruption is a way to deal with the enormous structures of control, ones so pervasive that they include all of business and all of government.

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Originally posted by exraver Well, who's giving him that bribe? YOU! People in ex-CCCP always break rules while driving, and when they get caught, they'll just say, Oh, I'll just pay a dude, instead of following regular procedure. It's all starts with us, regular people, all this corruption and bribery, it's acceptable for YOU to give bribe to get something.

not really man. cops dont get paid enough, and even becoming a cop in Russia is a much more stable job than working in another industry. In Belorus i heard they have set up a secondary police force that monitors regular police, and these new guys are kept honest by giving them enormous paychecks.

Remember this joke :

Three prizes were awarded for the successes in Socialist competition of police dept. #18. The third prize is the Complete Works of Vladimir Lenin. The second prize is 100 roubles and a ticket to Sochi... The first prize is a portable stop sign.

(stolen from wikipedia btw)

edit: stealth spell check

Re: Re: Canada in TOP 10 of least corrupt nations in the world

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Originally posted by chinamon who the fuck typed out this list?

genuine LOL

and now on to Jayx1's reply

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Originally posted by pozz not really man. cops dont get paid enough, and even becoming a cop in Russia is a much more stable job than working in another industry. In Belorus i heard they have set up a secondary police force that monitors regular police, and to keep these new guys are kept honest by gaving them enormous paychecks. Remember this joke : Three prizes were awarded for the successes in Socialist competition of police dept. #18. The third prize is the Complete Works of Vladimir Lenin. The second prize is 100 roubles and a ticket to Sochi... The first prize is a portable stop sign. (stolen from wikipedia btw)

Hahaha, very nice. You have very informative posts! Couldn't agree more! Becoming a 'чиновник' or member of UVD/police in Russia opens you to any and all opportunities in life there.

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