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Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:06:

Question Hating on Americans

Why is it? It seems pretty hard for me to think of any possible explanation for hating 300 million people simply for living in the same geographical area.

I completely understand hatred towards the government, or various individuals in the government or public sector, but it's getting pretty fucking annoying constantly seeing people hating on other people simply for the fact that they are American.

What you're doing is literally no different at all from people that hate black people because they're black.

Somebody please enlighten me as to when 300 million people all became the exact same type of person.

Is hating Americans the fashionable thing to do? Do you really have nothing more clever to say than to insult a person based on the country they live in (like they had any choice where they were born anyway)? I really don't understand it.


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-15-2010 17:10:

Shut up, you stupid fat American.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-15-2010 17:13:

Well this thread looks promising.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:21:

Regardless, when Bush was elected the first time, Gore won the Popular vote. So if over 50% of Americans did NOT vote for him...then.....


That's my whole point, and you're proving it right now. You can't generalize an entire population of a country because of what you know about less than half of them.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Dec-15-2010 17:26:

It's just jealousy.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
u allowed it to happen, the only thing needed for evil win is good doing nothing. if less than 50% of US wanted him why the hell didnt you storm the white house? pussys allowing shit to happen. that and your healthcare. btw i can generalize anything i want. maybe its time you have more than just two partys?


I think you're missing the point entirely...


Posted by Saka on Dec-15-2010 17:29:

I already like this thread.


Posted by Domesticated on Dec-15-2010 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Regardless, when Bush was elected the first time, Gore won the Popular vote. So if over 50% of Americans did NOT vote for him...then.....


That's my whole point, and you're proving it right now. You can't generalize an entire population of a country because of what you know about less than half of them.


That's your problem in the first place - believing that's people's dislike of your nation has anything to do with the current government or foreign policy. Foreigners couldn't care less about who runs your country.

Well, I just realised that I made a mistake above. People in poor countries hate you for your foreign policy. People in rich countries just hate you.

The problem with these threads is that the person asking this very question will invariably tell the people answering truthfully that they're wrong, ignorant, jealous or making generalisations. Thus, I'm not going to bother. The last time this shit went down I failed to explain myself adequately and looked like a bigot, rather than the person saying what everyone else thinks but is too nice to say.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:34:

I don't think it necessarily is based on the government running the country. I was responding to what Kenny said because it seemed like he was saying that it was based on who has been elected to run the country.

If what you're saying is true, and it's not the government, then what is it?


Yes, I am American, but I'm not just going to sit here and refute anything anyone says negatively about Americans.

I think to be as clear as possible, the thread is to discuss why people hate AmericaNS not America as a country.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
what is your point? that all americans are individuals and each and everyone is special? lol.


And what is yours? That all Americans are just mindless drones who follow the terrible hivemind of America? Please.


Posted by igottaknow on Dec-15-2010 17:40:

I hate Canadians but that's only because they remind me of Americans


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 17:42:

I'm saying that during the Holocaust, not all Germans were evil or stupid or hateful people. Your example is a pretty good one, and seems to fit pretty well here, but it still doesn't justify it at all.

The statement of anyone who watches evil and doesn't do anything isn't really valid however. Yes, the public elects the President, Congress, etc. but once they're in power, nobody votes on going to war, or not going to war. So, no, the average American had no power to stop whatever happened in the third world.

Besides, I'm not really sure what you're getting at by implying that anything that happens in the third world is solely Americans' faults.

Also, I'm 23.

Edit: My point is that when you make a list of why you hate Americans, you must first lump every single American into the same group, which is completely illogical. Any subjective hatred you have of "Americans" would have to be directed towards each individual American, or at least the majority of Americans for it to be valid at all. So, find me 150 million Americans that you have met, and hate for one reason or another, and then you can tell me the reasons why you hate AmericanS.


Posted by Domesticated on Dec-15-2010 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Edit: My point is that when you make a list of why you hate Americans, you must first lump every single American into the same group, which is completely illogical. Any subjective hatred you have of "Americans" would have to be directed towards each individual American, or at least the majority of Americans for it to be valid at all. So, find me 150 million Americans that you have met, and hate for one reason or another, and then you can tell me the reasons why you hate AmericanS.


I wish I had enough self-control to stay out of this.

If someone told you they hate horror movies, would you ask them to see at least 50% of all horror movies ever made before accepting their statement?


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-15-2010 18:03:

I'm American, and I agree with you.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Dec-15-2010 18:11:

boo hoo people hate on canadians all the time... people can't take us seriously and make all kinds of generalizations. truth hurts! I've been on a dog sled, built igloos in my front yard durring winter, consumed too much tim hortons, cross country skiied competitively i have plaid shirts, i come from a long line of lumberjacks and i sound funny when i talk. embrace it.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Dec-15-2010 18:13:

fries & gravy, man.

/thread


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
I wish I had enough self-control to stay out of this.

If someone told you they hate horror movies, would you ask them to see at least 50% of all horror movies ever made before accepting their statement?


Okay, so you're comparing Americans to a genre of movie. There are so many things wrong with what you're saying I don't know where to begin, but first off, comparing a person to a genre of movie is idiotic at best. Granted, meeting half of the US population is an exaggeration, but I was just trying to make a point. If someone said "I hate horror movies" and you asked "why" and their reason was "because I saw a couple and I didn't like them" that does not justify hating ALL horror movies.

I really feel like most of the people who have posted so far have missed the point. I don't care in the slightest bit what anyone thinks about the US Government's policies or actions or lack thereof. That topic is completely irrelevant to this thread.

What makes it even worse is that the majority of people around the world who hate Americans have never even met one. I simply don't understand how anyone here could possibly even try justifying hating someone that they've never met simply for the fact that they come from a certain country.


Posted by Ian on Dec-15-2010 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
boo hoo people hate on canadians all the time... people can't take us seriously and make all kinds of generalizations. truth hurts! I've been on a dog sled, built igloos in my front yard durring winter, consumed too much tim hortons, cross country skiied competitively i have plaid shirts, i come from a long line of lumberjacks and i sound funny when i talk. embrace it.


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Seriously, call you before xmas sometime next week ?


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
boo hoo people hate on canadians all the time... people can't take us seriously and make all kinds of generalizations. truth hurts! I've been on a dog sled, built igloos in my front yard durring winter, consumed too much tim hortons, cross country skiied competitively i have plaid shirts, i come from a long line of lumberjacks and i sound funny when i talk. embrace it.


Yeah but all of those activities sound quite fun to me They're certainly no reason to hate an entire country.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
i think i see your problem though. u think its unfair that someone hates you when you havent done anything wrong towards them. it makes you sad that someone who doesnt even know you, or have ever met you can hate you personally, on a personal level. in that case i think u think too high of yourself. no one in the world cares about you besides your friends and family. no one gives shit about you outside your country for the very same reason you wonder how someone could. no one hates you personally man, get a grip you emo. but when you have 400 millions of people without a will, without an act, or the knowledge to see the difference you have a really dangerous mobb. perfect example of this is islam. and fotball. fucking hooligans. people hate what they fear. and the world fear americans because their lack of acting right. thats where the hate come from - a reaction to fear.


I really don't know how to respond to anything you say. I think you may be a psychopath.

Edit: My only response is that I wholeheartedly disagree with pretty much everything you say, but that's fine. Other people are bringing up interesting points.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Dec-15-2010 18:19:


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
shit you are dumb. read my latest post. the world isnt about your feelings man, u are a maggot, ur a worm, a worthless peace of dust. u are nothing but water and coal and you couldnt make a single difference. nobody hates you personally - they hate your church.


This is going to be my last response to you, because I fear you're really not understanding anything I say. I'm not talking about ME as a person. Yes, I am an American. No, I don't really care if anyone in the world hates America, or hates me because I'm an American.

MY POINT, is that I'm curious as to the reasoning for people hating every single person of a certain country, regardless of whether they know them or not, simply for the fact that they are for that country.


Posted by Domesticated on Dec-15-2010 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Okay, so you're comparing Americans to a genre of movie. There are so many things wrong with what you're saying I don't know where to begin, but first off, comparing a person to a genre of movie is idiotic at best. Granted, meeting half of the US population is an exaggeration, but I was just trying to make a point. If someone said "I hate horror movies" and you asked "why" and their reason was "because I saw a couple and I didn't like them" that does not justify hating ALL horror movies.

I really feel like most of the people who have posted so far have missed the point. I don't care in the slightest bit what anyone thinks about the US Government's policies or actions or lack thereof. That topic is completely irrelevant to this thread.

What makes it even worse is that the majority of people around the world who hate Americans have never even met one. I simply don't understand how anyone here could possibly even try justifying hating someone that they've never met simply for the fact that they come from a certain country.


I wasn't comparing Americans to a genre of movie. Via analogy, I was pointing out the stupidity of your assertion that properly disliking something requires experiencing at least 50% of that available 'thing'.

I'm out. I honestly think that being American excludes you from understanding others' attitudes towards you, in the same way that a non-native language speaker will probably never know how they sound to natives, and vice versa.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated


I'm out.


Thank you.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-15-2010 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
fries & gravy & cheese curds man.

/thread



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