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Islam is a Religion of Peace?

Is the rise of terrorism and violence justifiably traced to the teachings of Islam, or is this call to war a twisted interpretation of the true Muslim faith? Most of the world�s 1.5 billion Muslims are moderates who see Islamic terrorism as a violation of their sacred texts. Is it wrong to let a radical minority represent authentic Islam? Has fear blinded us to its lessons of tolerance and peace?


http://vimeo.com/15646170

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You do know where you have posted this do you not?

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Originally posted by Saka This should be great. You do know where you have posted this do you not?

Chill out room?

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Originally posted by Saka This should be great. You do know where you have posted this do you not?

allah made him do it

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Originally posted by EddieZilker

How have you been?

I'm just going to leave this here...

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Originally posted by Kenny Rogers the problem are some shia-tribes which is about much less than 5% of all Muslims. Sunnis actually a pretty decent religion if one where to be religious, its a lot better than Christianity for example.

The terrorist Muslims (including al-Qaeda) have mostly been Sunni, not Shia. In fact, bin Laden and his peers think of Shia Muslims as heretics.

But gee golly, you non-Americans are so smart and know so much about the world, though.

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Originally posted by Lira I'm just going to leave this here...

I saw that, this last weekend, too.

Yes but No.

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Originally posted by Kenny Rogers i think shias are most prominent in the countries of iraq, iran, pakistan, yemen etc, where most extremes comes from. i dont know anything about what tribe bin laden belongs to or how many % of terrorism he is included in. maybe they join forces, to fight a common enemy. shias are considered the most extreme anyway.

The 9/11 bombers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, which is almost all Sunni. The majority of Pakistan is Sunni, just like Afghanistan, which was ruled by the Taliban, a Sunni extremist government.

Iran is Shia, but not a very "extreme" country, despite popular press portrayal, and has some of the least frequent mosque attendance of any Islamic country. Iraq is also majority Shia, but before the war there was not much religious terrorist activity to speak of there, and I don't know if most of the insurgents can be interpreted as religiously motivated anyway. Yemen is majority Sunni.

We can keep going and you can continue showing how clueless you are. Or would you like to stop now?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The 7/7 and 9/11 bombers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, which is almost all Sunni. The majority of Pakistan is Sunni, just like Afghanistan, which was ruled by the Taliban, a Sunni extremist government. Iran is Shia, but not a very "extreme" country, despite popular press portrayal, and has some of the least frequent mosque attendance of any Islamic country. Iraq is also majority Shia, but before the war there was not much religious terrorist activity to speak of there, and I don't know if most of the insurgents can be interpreted as religiously motivated anyway. Yemen is majority Sunni. We can keep going and you can continue showing how clueless you are. Or would you like to stop now?

Oh, shut up, you fat, stupid American!

Owned.

Most of that stuff is pretty common knowledge, if you read the news. I did have to look up Yemen, though.

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Originally posted by Znack Is the rise of terrorism and violence justifiably traced to the teachings of Islam, or is this call to war a twisted interpretation of the true Muslim faith? Most of the world�s 1.5 billion Muslims are moderates who see Islamic terrorism as a violation of their sacred texts. Is it wrong to let a radical minority represent authentic Islam? Has fear blinded us to its lessons of tolerance and peace? http://vimeo.com/15646170

Let's get a couple of things straight, son:

1. There is no "rise of terrorism and violence." Isolated incidents of terrorism have been going on for decades, and there is no evidence of any substantial upward trend in the number or severity of such incidents. On the other hand, there is a clear trend in worldwide violence: a downward one. So much for the rise of terrorism and violence.

2. There is no "true Muslim faith," nor any "authentic Islam." There is no objective basis upon which to deem any one interpretation of the religion any more "authentic" than any other. Nor is the numerosity of so-called "moderates"--who, I would point out, are hardly unanimous in the precise delineations of their faith--relevant. That would be what we in the business would call a logical fallacy.

Fuckin' noobs these days...

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Originally posted by Arbiter On the other hand, there is a clear trend in worldwide violence: a downward one.

Good point.

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The present paper examines secular trends of homicide rates by means of a systematic re‐analysis of all available quantitative studies on pre‐modern homicide. The results confirm, first, that homicide rates have declined in Europe over several centuries. Second, the empirical evidence shows, that unequivocal decline began in the early seventeenth century. Third, the data indicate that the secular decline begins with the pioneers of the modernization process, England and Holland, and slowly encompasses further regions.

http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/41/4/618.abstract

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Originally posted by Kenny Rogers news over here is pretty embarrassing stuff, i dont believe a single word of it - you shouldnt either. i read multiple sources and make up my own mind.

And all of those sources tell you that Shias are the most radical and violent Muslim sect?

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Originally posted by Arbiter Let's get a couple of things straight, son: 1. There is no "rise of terrorism and violence." Isolated incidents of terrorism have been going on for decades, and there is no evidence of any substantial upward trend in the number or severity of such incidents. On the other hand, there is a clear trend in worldwide violence: a downward one. So much for the rise of terrorism and violence. 2. There is no "true Muslim faith," nor any "authentic Islam." There is no objective basis upon which to deem any one interpretation of the religion any more "authentic" than any other. Nor is the numerosity of so-called "moderates"--who, I would point out, are hardly unanimous in the precise delineations of their faith--relevant. That would be what we in the business would call a logical fallacy. Fuckin' noobs these days...

I see you've decided to board the Circle Line Tour of circuitously inferred logic.





You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave.

Ugh, you embarrass Denmark. I bet you're the kind of person who supports that horrible Pia woman, too, aren't you?

Religion is all the oppressed people of the Middle East have to fall back on, when faced with their undemocratic, authoritarian, autocratic regimes, abject poverty, and repeated foreign military interventions in their lands, principally by Western Powers. Islam is no less a religion of peace than Christianity is. It's not like Islam holds a monopoly on brutality and war mongering. In fact, as much as Al-Qaeda has done in the last 20 years, they haven't come close to killing as much as America has in the same time frame.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin In fact, as much as Al-Qaeda has done in the last 20 years, they haven't come close to killing as much as America has in the same time frame.

in your face AQ!

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin Islam is no less a religion of peace than Christianity is. It's not like Islam holds a monopoly on brutality and war mongering. In fact, as much as Al-Qaeda has done in the last 20 years, they haven't come close to killing as much as America has in the same time frame.

HELL YEAH USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

i hate religion in all shapes and forms

The "extreme" form of "Islam" is neither mainstream Sunni nor Shia, but a bigoted and retarded interpretation known as Wahhabi originating in Saudi Arabia. Yes, Saudi Arabia, the world's largest maximum security prison and the world's largest terrorist breeding camp. They indoctrinate their youth with their sick ideology and produce and fund more terrorists than anywhere else on earth. Yet, for some reason they're a US ally and will never face any critcism from the western leaders. Quite the opposite actually, they'll get an honorary knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II and hold hands with US presidents. Fucking pathetic.

Saudi Arabia and Israel are the biggest opponents of world peace.

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