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Posted by DesMc8 on Dec-26-2010 22:19:

Where the hell is "trance" going?

I'm always a little afraid to put this question on a forum cuz lets face it, forums are fucking brutal sometimes. But seriously, I'm interested in hearing where everyone thinks trance IS going and where they'd LIKE to see it going. I've been extremely frustrated throughout November and December because I've gotten really bored with not only that cheesy slower style that's become more mainstream, but also I've been hearing way too many ideas being repeated to death in all types of trance and progressive. I'd like to know what people think and what directions trance should start taking so that it can, once again, can have a fresh, original, and unique sound. Something to help it evolve for the best.

Thoughts, ideas, feedback?


Posted by eyebegod on Dec-26-2010 22:36:

deadmau5


Posted by DesMc8 on Dec-26-2010 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by eyebegod
deadmau5

Yeahhh like 2 years ago....he's probably gonna start making more dubstep.


Posted by queenofnewyork on Dec-26-2010 23:24:

I hope it evolves toward a harder, more driving sound again. Cheesy Vocals / Minimal is boring me to death. For some reason, the harder edge of the EDM spectrum seems to be confined to the UK scene.


Posted by coolestrl on Dec-26-2010 23:37:


Posted by trancension on Dec-27-2010 00:12:

It's obviously heading toward two different spectrums, some producers and DJs are incorporating the poppy, cheesey vocal crap (Armada). Other DJs are incorporating techno/house elements (High Contrast). And then some DJs are just combining the two.

I'd personally like to see more progressive stuff. But that sound doesn't get the casual fans jumping at shows, which is a shame.


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-27-2010 00:48:

its loseing the emotion
that new slower/techy sound is dominating it these days and alot of dj's and producers who never supported it in the past, now support it which doesnt help either

i dont want to turn this into another "i miss trance" or " trance sucks" kinda thread but it just seems that every year there seems to be some new trend that gives the genre a bad name
first it was everyone makeing cheeeesey vocals, then the useless remakes now its everyone doing the same bullshit slow/techy sound

dont get me wrong i love trance, and there is good trance out there, but for the most part alot of dj's live sets all sound the same these days

trance like this is a dieing breed



Posted by RoBDaWG on Dec-27-2010 01:39:

South for the winter.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-27-2010 01:49:

Curious as to what you'd think of this. Personally I think this track is brilliant.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-27-2010 01:52:



Another one. Personally, and I'm not sure either of these would quite fit perfectly into the "trance" genre, but if trance were to go in any direction, I'd hope it'd be in one of these.


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-27-2010 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Curious as to what you'd think of this. Personally I think this track is brilliant.



track is def nice, but imo it wouldnt work well in a club
thats more of a chillout when your home kinda song, but it is a nice song


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-27-2010 01:57:

Yeah you're right. I think it might work well for a sunrise set kinda afterhours thing at a club, but in general I think you're right.

At least for me I guess, the kind of music I want to hear in a club is not the same as the kind I listen to at home.


Posted by TheInvisibleKid on Dec-27-2010 04:56:

You sound jaded. Personally, I made the transition from trance to house four years ago and my tastes haven't changed much since although the other day I dusted off some of the classics like Pulser - My Religion and System F - Spaceman. If your disenchantment with trance just started in November then I'd say it's probably just a temporary lull before you come across something good again. From my experience releases in general get a little weak in the winter before they pick up again in March and lead into the summer.


Posted by DJslantzz on Dec-27-2010 15:22:

I still am waiting for a trance producer to stop doing the same [intro...build...breakdown...climax...2nd breakdown...outro]. I would LOVE to hear someone create a completely new way of arranging a trance track, like making the whole track one big build or something...i dont know, could be kinda cool and definitely stick out amongst all the cookie-cutter trance tracks out there. 2 my cents


Posted by DesMc8 on Dec-27-2010 16:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJslantzz
I still am waiting for a trance producer to stop doing the same [intro...build...breakdown...climax...2nd breakdown...outro]. I would LOVE to hear someone create a completely new way of arranging a trance track, like making the whole track one big build or something...i dont know, could be kinda cool and definitely stick out amongst all the cookie-cutter trance tracks out there. 2 my cents


Now you've got me thinkin'


Posted by BradMiller on Dec-27-2010 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJslantzz
I still am waiting for a trance producer to stop doing the same [intro...build...breakdown...climax...2nd breakdown...outro]. I would LOVE to hear someone create a completely new way of arranging a trance track, like making the whole track one big build or something...i dont know, could be kinda cool and definitely stick out amongst all the cookie-cutter trance tracks out there. 2 my cents



Maybe something like?






For me, some of the best years of trance were around 06' when guys like van Doorn, Mac Zimms, Randy Katana etc.. were really experimenting with combining techno elements into trance. I miss that a lot.






Posted by AY STAR on Dec-27-2010 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
For me, some of the best years of trance were around 06' when guys like van Doorn, Mac Zimms, Randy Katana etc.. were really experimenting with combining techno elements into trance. I miss that a lot.


yea 06 was a good year for that more tech-trance sound it still sounded like techno...not the cheesey slower bpm bullshit today
me personally i loved marco v from 2001-2005
that lil bald dutch bastard was a an animal behind the decks...straight up banging techno and proper tech-trance


Posted by DesMc8 on Dec-27-2010 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
For me, some of the best years of trance were around 06' when guys like van Doorn, Mac Zimms, Randy Katana etc.. were really experimenting with combining techno elements into trance. I miss that a lot.


Yup! Early van Doorn was where it's at. Loaded, Direct Dizko, When The Sun Goes Down...they were all relentless and to me it just seemed like he didn't really hold back on the aggression.


Posted by RoBDaWG on Dec-27-2010 19:57:

Speaking of techno/trance I really used to love Picotto back around 2000-2002 with all his named-after-amphibian tracks. His Trance Energy 2001 set is one of my favorite ever. It's like nasty filthy techno with melodic trance breakdowns, was like the perfect combination of both.


Posted by BradMiller on Dec-27-2010 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DesMc8
Yup! Early van Doorn was where it's at. Loaded, Direct Dizko, When The Sun Goes Down...they were all relentless and to me it just seemed like he didn't really hold back on the aggression.


F me remember that first SvD Essential Mix from 06'? To this day it's still probably the most forward-thinking, groundbreaking, and relentless trance set I've ever heard!


Let's Talk aka Marko Nastic 'Easter Happiness' [Shadowfax]
Steve Angello 'Teasing mr. Charlie' [Size]
Unknown Artist 'Snake (Marco V RE-edit)' [White Label]
Chocolate Puma 'Always and Forever (Bart Claessen Dub Mix) (SVD EDIT)' [United/Positiva]
Ferry Corsten 'Are You Ready' [Flashover]
Dada Life 'Big Time' [Breast fed]
Sander van Doorn 'Pumpkin (SVD remix)' [Oxygen]
2 Faced 'Rock Music (Don Diablo Remix)' [ little mountain recordings ]
Cirez D 'Mouseville Theme' [Mouseville]
Abel Ramos 'Electrofun (Digital Poison Remix)' [Spinnin']
2 Terry Ferminal 'Nymph Original mix)' [High Contrast]
Ronald van Gelderen 'This Way' [High Contrast]
Hardcell & Grindvik 'Salt' [Gain]
Randy Katana 'Plastic Fantastic' [Spinnin']
Mojado 'Rezo' [Blackhole]
Fred Baker & Greg Nash 'Lunar Eclipse' [Spinnin']
Sander van Doorn 'Darkroast (2006 Re-Fill)' [Nebula]
Cave 'Friday Night 2006' [Spilo]
Preach 'Broken Inside' [FBI]
Ferry Corsten 'Cubikated' [Flashover]
Re:locate 'Rogue' [Galactive]
Divini & Warning '4LB' [Reset]
4 Strings 'Take Me Away (Purple Haze remix)' [Liquid]
Marcel Woods 'Cherry Blossom (Trancy Energy 2006 Remix)' [High Contrast]
Leon Bolier 'The Navigator' [Spinnin']
S.O. Project 'Direct Dizko (Sander van Doorn Remix)' [Spinnin']
BK & Mark Sherry 'Amino' [Riot]
Super 8 & POS present Aalto '5 (maoris Dark Remix)' [Anjuna Beats]
Yellow 'Oh Yeah (Sander van Doorn Remix)' [Gang go]
Eric Sneo 'Ghostbuster' [GS2]


Posted by Dj_MadirozE on Dec-28-2010 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by RoBDaWG
Speaking of techno/trance I really used to love Picotto back around 2000-2002 with all his named-after-amphibian tracks. His Trance Energy 2001 set is one of my favorite ever. It's like nasty filthy techno with melodic trance breakdowns, was like the perfect combination of both.


yes!!!!! picotto was z man ...that whole label bxr was insane i had almost every cut on vinyl


Posted by SebG on Dec-28-2010 02:45:

Whats Trance?


Seriously, I find myself listening to prog house/techno 90% and maybe 10% trance. I stopped listening to ASOT a long time ago.


Posted by Swamper on Dec-28-2010 02:47:

- Too many Trance DJs that have sets that sound the same
- Too many Trance DJs that are unwilling to incorporate tracks from other genres

...I could go on but I'll stop there.


Posted by SebG on Dec-28-2010 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
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Whoa, nice


Posted by SebG on Dec-28-2010 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
- Too many Trance DJs that have sets that sound the same
- Too many Trance DJs that are unwilling to incorporate tracks from other genres

...I could go on but I'll stop there.



Yup, they're afraid of experimenting....same old BS in sets...ugh


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