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Uplifting new track - Need advise on mix and sounds

Hi
I have been working away on trying to improve my sound and discovered the marvel of mid range bass...something i never used before ...also i had some great advise from a recent post about not limiting my mixes until the final stage....so..i have a new track to road test...any advise on mixing would be great and sounds ect...i apprechiate your time...
Beautiful Planet 1.0 by CREST

11 people...no comments...great forum!

heey i ve listened to your track i think its good nice, choice of sounds ! im not a professional but in my oppinion try to make it in a faster bpm and also i think the whole track sounds a little bit boring (don't get it wrong).....next time try something different and add some powerful basses and pads and punchy kicks,for the rest i'm sure u will find some good melodys !
here's one my latest tracs if u could listen to it and tell me what you think !
Souhail Semlali - Crystal Dreams (Remake) by souhail Semlali

hey thanks for the feedback! its helpful.. i will definitely get some better bass and kicks going on...) cheers

your track was nice man...i enjoyed listening to it...it has a hopeful flavour to it...and the melody is nice...
...it's all about getting better...so thank you!

you're welcome !
thanks for your comments on my track i'm glad you like it !
and like you said its all about getting better !

peace man!! )

Mixing sounds tight enough, melody a bit bright for my tastes.. but i see where ure getting at and it does work.

Dont have any immediate critiques, good job.

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Originally posted by Subtle Mixing sounds tight enough, melody a bit bright for my tastes.. but i see where ure getting at and it does work. Dont have any immediate critiques, good job.

thanks for taking the time

Mixing seems tight enough but not polished, meoldy doesn't have any direction however with some changes it can be great

hats are too quiet, and track lacks drive

keep at it man

will do..thanks Sako...
hats-drive-direction-wax on wax off!

cheers!

Funny how you say not to limit until the end, and yet this is limited plenty, or should I say clipped quite heavily. I won't go into too much detail on the mix because I can't...you've affected the master out too much for me to go into it.

Just watch the lower mids on the intro synth because it's sounding quite muddy. The kick/bass sounds boomy. Not quite sure what to suggest yet though. Hats/treble needs to come up. The upper mids also need more presence on certain instruments and their lower mids reduced.

But stop clipping the mix because it won't get you very far.

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR Funny how you say not to limit until the end, and yet this is limited plenty, or should I say clipped quite heavily. I won't go into too much detail on the mix because I can't...you've affected the master out too much for me to go into it. Just watch the lower mids on the intro synth because it's sounding quite muddy. The kick/bass sounds boomy. Not quite sure what to suggest yet though. Hats/treble needs to come up. The upper mids also need more presence on certain instruments and their lower mids reduced. But stop clipping the mix because it won't get you very far.

..thanks..
i see what you mean...i will keep it under clipping....
it seems the low mids are also my new focus...both on the intro synth and on other instruments..cheers
and the kick..yeah..hmm..

Beautiful Planet 2.0 by CREST


is this any better?

..latest..minus clipping....

Beautiful Planet 2.1 by CREST

any of your valuable feedback would be greatly accepted and helpful!
cheers

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Originally posted by CREST ..latest..minus clipping.... Beautiful Planet 2.1 by CREST any of your valuable feedback would be greatly accepted and helpful! cheers

Oh this is so much better to hear, you have no idea.

The attack in the kick is quite loud and noisy maybe, but if you're happy with the kick I'd say leave it. Intro synth is much better on the lower mids. Hat is definitely a little loud and forward. Have you boosted it around 10 kHz? Bass sounds good with the kick, but maybe you could bring in a bit more low-end by increasing the level of the bass string I barely hear in the intro. This should bring in more weight under the kick, or perhaps you're just high-passing the sub too steeply? I think you could fill the mid range (especially upper) with more instruments, as it's sounding a bit bassy and trebly and empty by the end. Otherwise some more EQ could do. Also I'm curious to hear what's happening in the extreme treble, so if you want to post a lossless version of the climax I can help you out there. Then all it needs is a good master and you've got yourself a track.

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR Oh this is so much better to hear, you have no idea. The attack in the kick is quite loud and noisy maybe, but if you're happy with the kick I'd say leave it. Intro synth is much better on the lower mids. Hat is definitely a little loud and forward. Have you boosted it around 10 kHz? Bass sounds good with the kick, but maybe you could bring in a bit more low-end by increasing the level of the bass string I barely hear in the intro. This should bring in more weight under the kick, or perhaps you're just high-passing the sub too steeply? I think you could fill the mid range (especially upper) with more instruments, as it's sounding a bit bassy and trebly and empty by the end. Otherwise some more EQ could do. Also I'm curious to hear what's happening in the extreme treble, so if you want to post a lossless version of the climax I can help you out there. Then all it needs is a good master and you've got yourself a track.

excellent! ok so a few things i need to do ..
cheers for the great direction man..
one thing...when you say to post a lossless version...what does that mean? cheers

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Originally posted by CREST one thing...when you say to post a lossless version...what does that mean? cheers

FLAC or WAV. MP3 320 will do too.

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR FLAC or WAV. MP3 320 will do too.

the version up on soundcloud is 320 and its downloadable...is that ok?

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Originally posted by CREST the version up on soundcloud is 320 and its downloadable...is that ok?

It actually gives me a 128 kbps MP3. That's why I asked. But I'd only need to hear a small portion with everything playing (i.e. the climax) and you can render it to FLAC or MP3 320 and send me the link.

ah yeah i see what you mean...ok...i have made those changes you pointed out....im not too sure about how the mids are sounding..to be honest...but i have added a uppper mid to the track...and adjusted the hats......havent touched the kick...
and the bass at the beginning has a newer light..not sure if that is better or worse!
here is a link for the climax part...(wav)
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]




and here is a link for the track in full (minus an intro and outro really)
(320 mp3)
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


thanks for you help Atlantis very much apprechiated!

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Originally posted by CREST ah yeah i see what you mean...ok...i have made those changes you pointed out....im not too sure about how the mids are sounding..to be honest...but i have added a uppper mid to the track...and adjusted the hats......havent touched the kick... and the bass at the beginning has a newer light..not sure if that is better or worse! here is a link for the climax part...(wav) [[ LINK REMOVED ]] and here is a link for the track in full (minus an intro and outro really) (320 mp3) [[ LINK REMOVED ]] thanks for you help Atlantis very much apprechiated!

Hmm, the increase in the intro bass/string is not really what I had in mind. I think it's too distracting now so maybe go back or set it how you want.

The treble is much better now, though I think the off hat could come up a bit (so it's somewhere in between).

But it's good you uploaded the full MP3 because it's just what I was afraid of. The sweep at 2:03 is too high on extreme treble frequencies (likewise at 2:31), so roll them off with a lowpass set to a sufficiently high frequency. This might be tricky to get right unless you have accurate monitoring but try from around 18 or 20 kHz depending on the Q (which would have to be fairly tight). Of course this could be done in the mastering too, so not entirely essential.

A similar treatment would have to be applied to the synth at 3:58. Also I'm not finding the EQ curve on it that great now that I hear it at higher quality. Try giving it a boost around 3.5 kHz and this should take away from the sharp extreme treble too and make it sweeter and more present. A good EQ is of course key.

Finally, I notice the right channel is a little louder than the left. I assume the kick is centred and most probably mono, so it's probably due to the bass' and later the lead's delay. Maybe you could offset something more to the left.

Always so much better hearing the WAV. Nothing to report there.

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR Hmm, the increase in the intro bass/string is not really what I had in mind. I think it's too distracting now so maybe go back or set it how you want. The treble is much better now, though I think the off hat could come up a bit (so it's somewhere in between). But it's good you uploaded the full MP3 because it's just what I was afraid of. The sweep at 2:03 is too high on extreme treble frequencies (likewise at 2:31), so roll them off with a lowpass set to a sufficiently high frequency. This might be tricky to get right unless you have accurate monitoring but try from around 18 or 20 kHz depending on the Q (which would have to be fairly tight). Of course this could be done in the mastering too, so not entirely essential. A similar treatment would have to be applied to the synth at 3:58. Also I'm not finding the EQ curve on it that great now that I hear it at higher quality. Try giving it a boost around 3.5 kHz and this should take away from the sharp extreme treble too and make it sweeter and more present. A good EQ is of course key. Finally, I notice the right channel is a little louder than the left. I assume the kick is centred and most probably mono, so it's probably due to the bass' and later the lead's delay. Maybe you could offset something more to the left. Always so much better hearing the WAV. Nothing to report there.

ok...so i took care of those extreme highs you pointed out..well i did my best there...with the tools i have..(working with crappy sony headphones only)
i rolled off at around 18k....
with the synth at 3:58, i took you advise and boosted some at 3.5k and rolled that one off at around 18k also..and i could head the difference...made it more present...anyway you can hear for yourself..
I also offset the left channel so that both channels are balanced...somewhat...again, see how it sounds to you..

im hoping this is close now for mastering...something that will be interesting...im sure..

thanks again
Clive

ohh , here's the latest..with the above adjustments...
i also added a little off beat bass to it...

Beautiful Planet by CREST

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Originally posted by CREST ok...so i took care of those extreme highs you pointed out..well i did my best there...with the tools i have..(working with crappy sony headphones only) i rolled off at around 18k....

From what I can hear (it's 192 kbps now), it's sounding just OK.

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Originally posted by CREST with the synth at 3:58, i took you advise and boosted some at 3.5k and rolled that one off at around 18k also..and i could head the difference...made it more present...anyway you can hear for yourself..

Definitely like this now too.

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Originally posted by CREST I also offset the left channel so that both channels are balanced...somewhat...again, see how it sounds to you..

Do you mean you panned the entire master track, including the kick? You definitely want to keep that dead centre, as well as the lower part of the bass. The right channel is still a little louder than the left but almost not noticeable.

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Originally posted by Atlantis-AR From what I can hear (it's 192 kbps now), it's sounding just OK. im not sure how else i can tackle it at this stage... Definitely like this now too. good...im thinking it fits better too.. Do you mean you panned the entire master track, including the kick? You definitely want to keep that dead centre, as well as the lower part of the bass. The right channel is still a little louder than the left but almost not noticeable.

no, i only slightly panned mid bass...ever so slightly...will take another look at that...

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