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a day of terror in Israel
today, in 7 terror attacks, died 11 ppl
these terror attacks included: 1 suicide bombing
2 shootings, 3 bomb attacks, 1 attempt of entering Israeli land by sea into israeli civilian area, missles and margema shootings
today
i woke up at 12pm
opened the tv and saw the pictures of the dead and injured
and i thought, what if that person that lost his sight in his right eye and severly damaged his hearing was my brother? and what if that woman that was killed on her way to work was my mother?
i sat in front of the tv, saw the pictures, thought a little and cried
i saw some of ur responses to other threads like these and i just wanna ask u that the next time u c the pictures form Israel after a suicide bombing or another terror attack
please put urself in our position and try to imagine what it feels like to lose someone who was like a brother or a mother to you
I was actually going to post the same thing today. I woke up and read that on the newspaper. Its not just this that is upsetting, but that it is still happening and seems to happen on a daily or weekly occasion.
I wonder how people in that region can actually live there. I know I couldn't I would move, but I don't know how easy that would be. I would probably stay inside my house all day stocked with massive firearms and bulletproof vests.
This is a war between Isreal and Palestine, but why havent they declared war and get the matter over with?
look man
the palastiniens started one day with massive attacks on israel soldiers and civilians
the situation was good
when it started we were willing to give them what ever they waned but they refused...
so we went on battling until now and it still continues
due to the war the situation in Israel got worse and more ppl dont have jobs and the stock exchange is dropping hard so ppl dont have money to move
and this is our country and we love it so there is no reason to move too
think that one day a war in ur country would suddenly start- would u move?
i have to tell u, i dont get out much bcz of the situation, im too afraid to die this young and its very scary to sit in cafe places with friends bcz u dont know when someone will come to u and blow up in ur face
we r extremly afraid of every day that goes by that we'll die
another middle-east conflict thread ...
i'm sorry for all those who die in israel , but think about the others who die in the other side ...
do u mean the terrorists or those who die from ACCIDENTS WHEN THE TERRORIST PUT THEM IN TRAPS THAT WERE MENT FOR US?!
we dont just kill civilians
if someone dies there its for a reason
When I heard this I really freaked out, first thing I did was call my aunt at work make sure she was ok, she rides the same route to work as the bus that blew up did, luckily she was ok, but I was scared as hell. All this petty violence needs to stop
Stupid terrorists, stupid aerefat, I hoep you die 
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| Originally posted by Nadi Stupid terrorists, stupid aerefat, I hoep you die |
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| Originally posted by NyKoN do u mean the terrorists or those who die from ACCIDENTS WHEN THE TERRORIST PUT THEM IN TRAPS THAT WERE MENT FOR US?! we dont just kill civilians if someone dies there its for a reason |
emm
that
CNN never shows u the full picture ah?
well ill tell u the story- the real one- the one that CNN or BBC or SKY didnt show...
one day israeli soldiers went in to Jenin camp to find terrorists that were there based on intel. info
they arrived and the terrorists saw them coming so they blew up a HUGE explosive lab that was built under the camp which caused the whole camp to fall
killed 12 elite soldiers and pales. civilians
if there's a person to blame , it must be Sharon ...
Israelians want peace , they want security , they want to live next to the Palestinians as neighbours ... but the government doesn't , Sharon doesn't , the extreme right doesn't , the highest religious authorities doesn't ...
Palestinians (including Arafat) want peace , they want security , they want to live next to the Israelians as neighbours ... but hamas/hezbollah doesn't ...
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 another middle-east conflict thread ... i'm sorry for all those who die in israel , but think about the others who die in the other side ... |
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Originally posted by zzleeper ....A stupid death is a death wether it's an inoccent israely or a palestinian child. ... fastmp3, talking about Jenin campo may end in massive flaming between fellow TA's... It's not worth it. |
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 if there's a person to blame , it must be Sharon ... Israelians want peace , they want security , they want to live next to the Palestinians as neighbours ... but the government doesn't , Sharon doesn't , the extreme right doesn't , the highest religious authorities doesn't ... Palestinians (including Arafat) want peace , they want security , they want to live next to the Israelians as neighbours ... but hamas/hezbollah doesn't ... |
Thinking that one side is the guilty is a mistake. Thinking that each side acts "together" (that is, that we can generalise israely and palestinian actions and attitudes) is another mistake.
Both palestinians and israelis have elements (groups, factions) that IMO don't want peace, but war. It is hard to identify them, but I can point at Hamas and maybe to some elemements of the israely extreme-right.
So what has happened it's not fault of any side entirely, there are guilty ones at both sides. And beware of news, they can be manipulated in many ways by both sides (YES, BOTH sides).
Edit: " I can't point " --> " I can point "
writting mistake
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| Originally posted by zzleeper Thinking that one side is the guilty is a mistake. Thinking that each side acts "together" is another mistake. Both palestinians and israelis have elements (groups, factions) that IMO don't want peace, but war. It is hard to identify them, but I can't point at Hamas and maybe to some elemements of the israely extreme-right. So what has happened it's not fault of any side entirely, there are guilty ones at both sides. And beware of news, they can be manipulated in many ways by both sides (YES, BOTH sides). |
read the edit
Of course arefat wants the bombing, he funds it. As long as that dumbass is in power peace wont ever come about. Oh, and the palestinans do want peace, as soon as there arn't any more israleis living in israel
Why can't we all get along?

actually i'm kind of sick of all these MIDDLE-EAST-CRICES (or whatever)
anyway... I think the history lesson is over already guys.
Stop talking about who started, stop blaming leaders and nations, just S-T-O-P
We need to work out a solution here... but the only thing that is bothering me is u... yes guys, U !
Here we are a bunch of israeli guys from all kinds of places in israel, all the ages, and there u r, waving with your stupid facts that u read / hear / listen on the news....
IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
And that is the msg i want to deliver to u guys...
Come live in israel... U know what, don't, Speak to all the ppl in israel
U will c fear... u'll c democratic ppl who all they want is to put this problem to an end...
And then move accross to all the palastinians, Speak to 12,13,17,30 and so on, ppl, they all care for one thing: KILL ISRAELIS.
Now i think that in the western socaiety that we built for half a century here in israel, things like this shouldn't happen !
All i'm saying is, stop talking like u know something. stop attacking Israel, stop thinking that The palastinians are the conqured and mizzrible ppl. Start thinking about the whole picture.
That is all i have to say
and i say CLOSE THIS THREAD , enough is enough 
Chook, to be perfectly honest I cant fully comprehend what you guys have been through, however I do here that theres been a bombing sometimes and run to the phone to call all my relatives, I'm sure its much worse for you there, and I hope there is a solution, but do you think there can be peace w/ arefat still in power? Personally I dont
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| Originally posted by NyKoN we dont just kill civilians if someone dies there its for a reason |
ur clearly just like the rest of em. who are u to say who dies and who dont. uve really pissed me off here.
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| DJ Chook.. |
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| Originally posted by NyKoN we dont just kill civilians if someone dies there its for a reason |
WTF?!
its not what i mean
there is NO israeli soldier that just goes around in a town shooting ppl
this isnt Iraq's army where u do wtf u want and get off from it
if u do this kind of things u get jail time and serious jail time and serious conditions for ur release
ppl who die there ARE TERRORISTS period!
they are responsible for the deaths of 100's of innocent israeli civilians
but when u fight in a civilian area deaths of innocent ppl do happen
this is what war brings with it- war doesnt end with no one dying some ppl wanna go through the crossfire just to die as a "shahid" and for the sake of it- i dont know y they do it...
we r a democratic country we have an army thats in order and isnt a whore house- we have rules of opening fire
and we keep them
sharon
arafat
both of these guys need to be replaced they are both just a bunch of numbnuts.
i say that after putting together a pay-per-view boxing match between
sharon and arafat (the beast of the middle east match). Winner of that match gets nothing except a pat on the back. And then after this thy should elect new more moderate leadership so they can actually get some dialogue going with out one side bombing the shit out of each other.
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