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Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2011 23:37:

New from Access - OS4.5 and Polar Darkstar Edition

Looks like some big announcements from Access at NAMM. Here is the first video for OS4.5 showing off the new chorus:

Virus TI OS 4.5 Preview Movie 1 from access music on Vimeo.

Not sure what else will be included in the new OS, but Access is hinting about another big feature on its FB page.

And, some photos of the new Darkstar (limited edition of the Polar):

Posted by Zombie0729 on Jan-13-2011 00:25:

ooOOoo

Posted by alanzo on Jan-13-2011 12:39:

There's hardware to go with that VSTi? I didn't even realize!

Posted by Raphie on Jan-13-2011 12:44:

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Originally posted by alanzo
There's hardware to go with that VSTi? I didn't even realize!
EPIC (i know you're kddin) but still this is one of the best remarks made in a long time

Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-13-2011 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
There's hardware to go with that VSTi? I didn't even realize!

so thats whats VSTI stands for. ViruS TI but what bout TI? Texas Instruments ?

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-13-2011 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
so thats whats VSTI stands for. ViruS TI but what bout TI? Texas Instruments ?

No, dummy. TI = Thou$and$ Inve$ted.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-13-2011 21:47:

oh i thought it was Virtual SynTh Instrumental.

Posted by vikernes on Jan-14-2011 01:08:

Re: New from Access - OS4.5 and Polar Darkstar Edition

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Looks like some big announcements from Access at NAMM. Here is the first video for OS4.5 showing off the new chorus:

Virus TI OS 4.5 Preview Movie 1 from access music on Vimeo.

Do you happen to know if there's a vst chorus that works like that Air Chorus he demoed? If I understood correctly he's saying that it works by detuning the sides of a stereo signal? That "the air between the speakers" phrase puzzles me.
Or is he talking about just detuning the L and R channels independently like Waves doubler for example?

If the answer is no, is there anything like what I wrote available?

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-14-2011 01:24:

Re: Re: New from Access - OS4.5 and Polar Darkstar Edition

quote:
Originally posted by vikernes
If I understood correctly he's saying that it works by detuning the sides of a stereo signal? That "the air between the speakers" phrase puzzles me.

Or is he talking about just detuning the L and R channels independently like Waves doubler for example?

Good question. I think what he's saying is that the signal is split into L and R and detuning independently (as in Waves Doubler), and that the result is that the chorus effect is simply heard in the center.

Posted by EddieZilker on Jan-14-2011 01:26:

Cryo!

You are the Typhoid Mary of GAS!

(Yeah, I'm also talking about that Linn/Smith contraption, too.)

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-14-2011 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You are the Typhoid Mary of GAS!

(Yeah, I'm also talking about that Linn/Smith contraption, too.)

Oh, I'm not planning on buying one of these. I'm very happy with my 61 keys and won't go back to 37 no matter how cool it looks. But, I am looking forward to the OS4.5. As for the new Linn/Smith machine,.....maybe I'm GASing just a little, but at $2K and still at least 6 months away, I'll probably be fine. I've been downsizing my studio so much over the past year that I need to compensate by at least talking about gear!

Posted by kitphillips on Jan-14-2011 06:48:

ZOMG! Big NEWS GAIZ!!! Its a new colour!!

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New sources have been added to the modulation matrix allowing to add further "analog" feeling to pretty much any parameter available within the over 100 modulation destinations

This is hilarious. What does a mod matrix have to do with adding teh analogues??

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-14-2011 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
ZOMG! Big NEWS GAIZ!!! Its a new colour!!

It's pretty typical of Access to put out these limited edition synths. Their product cycle is usually several years, so I think they do it mostly to maintain a presence in the market and reignite interest in their products on occasion. It doesn't bother me, but it seems that a lot of people expect a new synth every year or something. With the amount of free OS updates with improvements and new features that they've given out for both the TI1 and TI2, I find it hard to complain. Most companies would slap on a couple of new features, give it a facelift, and market it as a new product or new version.

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
This is hilarious. What does a mod matrix have to do with adding teh analogues??

Marketing jargon. They're just saying that you have more options for adding random variation to the sound, thereby imitating the inconsistencies of analogue. Hey, I ain't gonna complain about more modulation sources.

Posted by kitphillips on Jan-14-2011 08:00:

I just think it ruins their credibility a bit is all to go on about "teh analogues"...

I see your point about releasing special editions, but I do think they'd be better off diversifying a bit and releasing new products to complement the virus.

Posted by cryophonik on Jan-14-2011 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
I just think it ruins their credibility a bit is all to go on about "teh analogues"...

Agreed. The same goes for every other synth manufacturer out there.

Posted by tehlord on Jan-14-2011 09:23:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
There's hardware to go with that VSTi? I didn't even realize!

There's a software only version as well. It's called Sylenth

No...wait.

I thought that LE Polar was gonna be gloss black!

Posted by G-Con on Jan-14-2011 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
With the amount of free OS updates with improvements and new features that they've given out for both the TI1 and TI2, I find it hard to complain. Most companies would slap on a couple of new features, give it a facelift, and market it as a new product or new version.

Agreed. As a TI owner, I bought mine when it was OS 2.0 (which had several new features over os 1.) Since then , they have added countless new FX, improvements to the mod matrix, improvements to pretty much everything in fact. Additional usb output, the Atomizer. I'm probably forgetting other stuff as well. All without any charge whatsoever.

I read people moan how the TI2 was not much of an improvement and now this new polar edition will probably get the same criticism. If you don't own a TI then what do you care if they release a completely new synth or continue to build on their existing one? If you buy it, it's a new synth as far as your concerned.

If you already own a TI, then be pleased that improvements and new features are being added all the time free of charge so there's no need to buy the newest access synth because they are keeping yours right up to date.

They could quite easily have made os 4.0 only available for the TI2 and no longer update the original TI, encouraging people to upgrade. I'm sure many companies would have done this but Access didn't.

Posted by Raphie on Jan-14-2011 10:06:

I am happy with Access as well. as long as they keep there promise to deliver a flawles OS (which they never will ) i don't mind small quircks as a trade off for lifetime upgrades)

Posted by Timothy on Jan-14-2011 10:33:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
ZOMG! Big NEWS GAIZ!!! Its a new colour!!

This is hilarious. What does a mod matrix have to do with adding teh analogues??

The mod matrix is very important to emulate certain analog synths

Posted by kitphillips on Jan-14-2011 12:15:

But it doesn't make a synth sound analogue. So its clearly just misleading marketing bullshit. The sound that most people associate with analogue is the minimoog/juno sound, and neither of those had a mod matrix.

Posted by Raphie on Jan-14-2011 12:20:

Ever heard a Virus? DSP is totally different from your avg VSTi.

I know no VSTi that sounds as good as a Virus.
Even through USB, so fully in the digital domain, just like VSTi's. Sylenth sounds like a wett fart in a cola can compared to a TI

Posted by kitphillips on Jan-14-2011 12:34:

Are you trolling?

Because we all know that its teh graphics cards from 1999 which are used in the virus that give it its analogue warmth

Posted by Raphie on Jan-14-2011 12:36:

couldn't care less if they've used a bears ass in there, it just sounds better, even without the grit of the D/A.

Posted by thecYrus on Jan-14-2011 13:24:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Are you trolling?

Because we all know that its teh graphics cards from 1999 which are used in the virus that give it its analogue warmth

lol. graphic cards.. it's not a UAD-dongle :P they used proper DSPs since forever.

and yes, analog warmth is usually done with modulation. though it's hidden modulation in almost all synths.

Posted by Timothy on Jan-14-2011 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
But it doesn't make a synth sound analogue. So its clearly just misleading marketing bullshit. The sound that most people associate with analogue is the minimoog/juno sound, and neither of those had a mod matrix.

A Moog and a juno for example behave differently how the envelopes affect the filters and the amplifier. With the mod matrix, you can adjust that if you're creative enough.

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