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What you WANTED to see at NAMM

Since I've been pretty skeptical about most of the gear that's appeared, I thought maybe we'd all like to talk about what we would have LIKED to see at NAMM. Hopefully this thread will stay realistic. A version of the OMG-1 bundled with a virus for $500 isn't really what we want to hear about.

For me, I'd like to have seen reissues by Roland of the 303, 808, 909, and a new analogue Jupiter. All priced reasonably. Like $500-700 each preferably for the xOx series, and maybe 1200 for the Juno. Even if it was only a 6 voice one, I'd still be a happy man.

I'd also have liked to see virus release a version of their atomiser from the TI, preferably turned into a full on looper and EFX, but also including all those tasty glitchy effects. Preferably priced around $600-800. Something to show Elektron what the Octatrack SHOULD have looked like.

What would you have liked to see?

Well, I have a little different perspective on this NAMM. I actually was pessimistic going into it because there just didn't seem to be that many juicy rumors going around. I also figured that it might be one giant iPad app dorkfest. So, I've been pleasantly surprised.

That said, as much as I like the new DSI drum machine, I was really hoping for an updated (i.e., 2nd generation), knobby desktop version of the Poly Evolver. Not that I'm really in the market for a new synth.

I would have liked to see a Nord Lead 4 or Wave 2 as well.

I'll definately +1 both of those. A new Nord seems timely to me. Lets have a nord lead 4. Exactly the same as the last one, but non toxic. Thx.

64bit Ableton

A VSTi for the UAD-2.

a macbook pro with touch screen instead of the lid, and inbuild 4 balanced ins and outs (6mm jacks).

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 64bit Ableton

and 64bit rewire.

A MIDI-Out patch for Propellerhead software.

Affordable control surface with at least 16 x 100mm and a transport.

Nothing too fucking fancy, just nice faders, midi out or via usb, and stable using something like the hui format. Don't need automap or resistance capacitance faders or built in soundcards.

Why the fuck does no one do this?

Also, would like someone (korg) to bring out new Electribe style drum sampler/sequencer. Would like it to just be a midi interface to control samples within a program like battery. Drag an drop samples (unlike having to load them on a compact flash card) on to the pads and plax away on the 16 step sequencer.

Why the fuck can't Korg just do this? anyone know any designers I berate for not bringing this out?

A sweep maker - to save all that time I spend making uppers and downers.

I was sorta hoping for another subtractive soft synth. One that claims to sound analogue would be nice.

a native access virus VSTi (they need to stop kidding themselves), something from ableton

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Originally posted by asdfg a native access virus VSTi (they need to stop kidding themselves),

What are they kidding themselves about?

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Originally posted by cryophonik What are they kidding themselves about?

about making customers pay for the over priced dongle/midi keyboard, it was proven with the virus powercore that there's actually no need for the hardware to get the same sound.

^^^ Come on... I said realistic ideas only dude. Access are still making money off their hardware, however neccesary it may be. So they're going to keep selling it unfortunately.

I reckon a VST for UAD-2 will be forthcoming pretty soon. Now that Duende has dropped their hardware, I imagine that UAD will do the same shortly. People are coming to their senses and realising that hardware isn't neccesary for processing purposes any more.

More 64 bit support has got to be coming up too. Its just getting ridiculous at this point IMO. Ableton and Reason need to lift their game.

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Originally posted by asdfg about making customers pay for the over priced dongle/midi keyboard, it was proven with the virus powercore that there's actually no need for the hardware to get the same sound.

Well, of course not. The hardware (casing, keybed, knobs, etc.) on any VA has nothing to do with the sound. Access isn't trying to kid themselves or anyone else that it does. Nobody needs to "prove" that.

Now, as far as overpriced goes, that's in the eye of the buyer, but it's priced competitively with the rest of the market and Access certainly doesn't seem to have a problem selling them. And they don't "make" anybody pay for anything - people simply wouldn't buy them if they were too expensive. It's a well-constructed synth with a quality Fatar keybed, TI technology, etc. that is in high demand and, therefore, costs many times more than just buying its software code and a PCI card.

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Originally posted by cryophonik It's a well-constructed synth with a quality Fatar keybed, TI technology, etc. that is in high demand and, therefore, costs many times more than just buying its software code and a PCI card.

Yes, because software editors are a completely new/revolutionary idea.
I have absolutely no concern in how people are spending their money, but don't expect me to not laugh when access show up at NAMM showing off what a supersaw sounds like going through a leslie rotor.

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Originally posted by asdfg I have absolutely no concern in how people are spending their money, but don't expect me to not laugh when access show up at NAMM showing off what a supersaw sounds like going through a leslie rotor.

You can laugh at free new features all you want. There are many of us who have the experience, knowledge, and creativity to know how to put those features to use and the truly innovative among us will find new ways to use them, while people like you will stand on the sidelines saying "LOL, supersaw though Leslie sounds dumb", then go on to bitch that they don't offer it in software. Besides, Access isn't charging us for all those extra features that come with each and every OS update and that's one reason that they've been so successful and why Virus owners have such high owner satisfaction. Access is in the business of making professional hardware gear for professional musicians and producers, not software for trance kiddies to trade on warez sites, and they've obviously been very successful in following that model. So, you can laugh or bitch about Access all you want, but in case you haven't noticed, they've been a lot more successful than you.

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As dave points out, Access are not making the same mistakes waldorf did. They've found a business model that works, in an incredibly difficult market and kept doing well for over a decade now.

Yes, I'd love a AU version of it (as I just don't really do much hardware due to space and cost) but you can'y fault access for doing what they're doing.

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Originally posted by aquila A MIDI-Out patch for Propellerhead software.

why?
There is export song to .midi.
So make your song in reason and export the song as a .midi file, import the midi in to your DAW of choice and there you go.

^^^ I think he wants direct access to the reason sequencer so he can use it to drive VSTs.

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Originally posted by kitphillips ^^^ I think he wants direct access to the reason sequencer so he can use it to drive VSTs.

Outboard gear actually. To try and keep the workflow in one place.

just forget about Reason, it was cool 5 years ago, but never bothered to keep up. It should have recording, VST-support, Midi out and all that by now, but no. And that Record program is a pure failure, why couldnt they just put the features of Record into the new Reason instead of having another app (with a USB-Dongle wtf!). Complete failure propellerheads. Logic for me now

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 why? There is export song to .midi. So make your song in reason and export the song as a .midi file, import the midi in to your DAW of choice and there you go.

wow what a workflow lol. do u ever finish a song? why not just make the midi in the other daw to start with? rofl.

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