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Cubase, production, pathetic tunes.

Ok, im just making an outcry here. Im trying to use cubase 5 to create some house, dance and trance tunes. Ive watched a 37 chapter tutorial. I know how to use the program. I can create beat loops, and more loops, and a nice swooshing intro. then it just sounds like junk.

My question is purely, how can i create something that has the same value of the big name dj's/ prducers - Avicii, gareth emery, SHM ?? and not just a beat loop that sounds like something from DANCE EJ

I feel like i need to do a course in music production so i can get some inspiration, although i know how i want things to sound in my head. i just have no framework to start with.

I have a great little keyboard i could hook up via MIDI but ill need to invest in an interface.

along with my first question i have a few more:

1. how do you guys get inspiration for a new tune?
2. should i start from scratch or remix a song first?
3. is there any templates availiable for cubase 5 that i can edit to get me started?
4. whats Axwells email address so i can send him my smash hit house tune when its complete.


Any help is much appreciated. XPOSURE

It takes a year or two to learn the basics.

There's no real shortcut.


Welcome to hell.

Re: Cubase, production, pathetic tunes.

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Originally posted by djxposure gareth emery

see you in 10 years!

funny guys, but still no further forward.

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Originally posted by djxposure funny guys, but still no further forward.

What's funny?

It's the truth.

Yeeears of practise ahead of you.

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Originally posted by tehlord What's funny? It's the truth. Yeeears of practise ahead of you.

And when you think you're good enough, you'll find out just how much further you have to go.

i know what the truth is, just looking for a kickstart.

If you read 37 chapters on the program but can't make anything close to resembling a complete track, and that is already discouraging to you, then maybe music production isn't a hobby you should be pursuing. Seriously, it's a constant uphill struggle and if you're going to be discouraged if you're a good producer in 2 years at the very least, you've already wasted whatever time you've spent on it.

There aren't any tricks or starting grounds, just figure out how to use the program technically and then experiment with what you can do with it musically. We can't teach you what to do because we all have our own ways of approaching production, beyond the absolute basics which are readily available as video tutorials on Youtube or something.

so there are no beginners templates i can use? thats what im looking for

A basic tune to start off with that i can cut, re-arrange, add my own touch to. something thats not too complex but sounds catchy. thats what i want

Edit* ive just looked through my tutorial dvds, and spotted some templates to use. I shall have a look at these templates and report back to you what a template consists of. regards.

...That sounds more like you want to remix something. Just look for free remix compos on forums, google, etc. It's a good way to get practice when you lack inspiration.

And invest in that MIDI interface. Having an actual keyboard to even just noodle around on makes a world of difference from trying to click around in your DAW.

dear tranceaddict - please supply me with a hit record, that I can "edit"; as my need for validation outgrows my will and motivation to learn and understand. I am in fact a musical genius with unparalleled capacity for success, but I require additional inspiration in the form of a ready made track that just begs for my unique and special touch of brilliance.


See you on the other side of say.. 800-900 shitty loops, crushed dreams and spoiled ambitions - whereafter you will realize one of the following:

1. Making good music is hard
2. Effort is in fact a requirement
3. Maybe I should take up knitting?

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Originally posted by kaih dear tranceaddict - please supply me with a hit record, that I can "edit"; as my need for validation outgrows my will and motivation to learn and understand. I am in fact a musical genius with unparalleled capacity for success, but I require additional inspiration in the form of a ready made track that just begs for my unique and special touch of brilliance. See you on the other side of say.. 800-900 shitty loops, crushed dreams and spoiled ambitions - whereafter you will realize one of the following: 1. Making good music is hard 2. Effort is in fact a requirement 3. Maybe I should take up knitting?

Sig worthy!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Knitting requires effort, too. On the plus side, you and your girlfriend might now have a hobby in common!

This is what I call unnecessarily trolling.

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Originally posted by Mise This is what I call unnecessarily trolling.

Welcome to TA.

pack it in and learn to use FLstudio or reason, you'll get better results quicker.

Lol I started playing piano at 5, had my first synth at 14 and I'm 28 now man. Unless you spend a good 4 years, and I mean work at it 16-20 hours a day, their is just way too much to learn.

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Originally posted by Scrittah ...That sounds more like you want to remix something. Just look for free remix compos on forums, google, etc. It's a good way to get practice when you lack inspiration. And invest in that MIDI interface. Having an actual keyboard to even just noodle around on makes a world of difference from trying to click around in your DAW.

Thanks for that,

thread answered. cheers.

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Originally posted by kaih 1. Making good music is hard 2. Effort is in fact a requirement

Putting the OP aside, a lot of noobs forget that a master painter such as Turner or Van Gough will have spent all thier youth learning to paint. Thousands of hours of toil.

Music is NO different - work that makes a lasting impact on the world is the culmination of thousands of hours of experience in the main.

The Beetles between them clocked up over 40,000 hours before they got a hit.

OP - my advice to you is to import a fave track of yours, and in minute detail spend a few months trying to match it. Your sound will be very different but in principle you want to be aiming to make each sounds as good as the pro track. The biggest issues new people have imo is understanding the massive effort that goes into each sound - a clap in a pro track is rarfely just a preset.

It is hard but with enough passion and roughly 10,000 hours (according to people such as BoomJinx) you will get there.

try something else than cubase
Reason is a great noob program, cubase is a little more pro and might not work for you, as u are a noob.

well first things first, i want to hook my keyboard up to the laptop. Can someone recommend a suitable MIDI interface that will work with the yamaha DJX-II keyboard?

most soundcards have midi too, get yourself a decent one. Or you can get yourself a midicontroller/keyboard with USB and forget about that old MIDI-technology.

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