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Twilight Skies (Low BPM/Atmospheric/Morning Trance)

Ive been waiting quite a while to put this set together, before a couple new tracks came out this past year there was not enough to do this.
Basically this mix is exactly as the title describes, lower in BPM, atmospheric with morning sounds and includes tracks from the past 10 or so years.
This is propper TRANCE, with minimal to no house influences (no funkyness, houseish/prog percussion etc). No mistuquemusic sounding tracks to be found here (not that I don't like them).

At just 50 minutes long, why not give it a shot . Hope you enjoy the mixing.

Download: http://musicfiend.net/DJ%20Nitride%...ght%20Skies.mp3

Tracklist:
Grand National - Talk Amongst Yourselves (Sasha Involver Mix) [Global Underground]
Etnia - In The Air [MistiqueEmotion]
H.U.V.A. Network - Disolving Time [Ultimae]
Aes Dana - Manifold (Morning Edit) [Ultimae]
C-Jay & Shylock - Terrestrial [IONO]
Damien L - Electrostatic Terror [MistiqueEmotion]
Asura - Code Eternity [Ultimae]

You need to dig deeper.

Your sig is too big! MWAHAHA YES I CAN FINALLY SAY THAT!

I started listening to this, but when the vocals kicked in on the first track, I turned it off. I'm sorry dude.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Your sig is too big! MWAHAHA YES I CAN FINALLY SAY THAT! I started listening to this, but when the vocals kicked in on the first track, I turned it off. I'm sorry dude.

Its the only track with vocals

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You need to dig deeper.

Any suggestions in Ambient trance almighty System-J? These are just some personal favorites of mine and I thought they mixed together well. Wasn't just going to throw any track in here...

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Originally posted by ziptnf Your sig is too big! MWAHAHA YES I CAN FINALLY SAY THAT!

He's right dj nitride, even if he's curt. This is pretty standard stuff for the style of sound you are going for.

That said, nice tunes (good melodies all around), flow makes sense, but isn't perfect, and mixing is decent.

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Originally posted by pozz He's right dj nitride, even if he's curt. This is pretty standard stuff for the style of sound you are going for. That said, nice tunes (good melodies all around), flow makes sense, but isn't perfect, and mixing is decent.

Thanks for the feedback this is my first mix here so Im happy to get any positive feeback whatsoever

I don't really know what you think "ambient trance" is, given you've opened with a track from Involver. This is what I'd call ambient trance:


Your tracklist looks good, but realistically anyone who listens to this kind of music and has a Beatport account could have put this set together in an afternoon.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't really know what you think "ambient trance" is, given you've opened with a track from Involver. This is what I'd call ambient trance: Your tracklist looks good, but realistically anyone who listens to this kind of music and has a Beatport account could have put this set together in an afternoon.

I wasn't specifically going for 100% "ambient trance" as you define it and I do realize that Sasha remix of the Grand National track is not ambient trance, hence the other items in the topic. But yeah I realize I did use for the most part well known artists, labels, and tracks.

Point taken though, for my next mix I will dig deeper. I have been wanting to do a mix with this sound for a good while and have not been able to put together enough quality material until recently.

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Also, in my defense one can't easily search for alot of this on beatport due to it not having a clearly defined genre because its stuck in the middle of many things.

don't worry about beatport for searching. that won't give you too much. ask some people on the forum (not me! i don't too much about this sound), but check everything from Ultimae or whatever label you like, then search the internets at random til you come up with stuff. Discogs helps much.

my tactics may not work for you, but aside the from the guaranteed tedium, you'll find stuff that isn't talked about/listened to much if you just explore.

Alright, im going to put way more time into my next mix which I am already planning out. Just spent a few hours digging and found a awesome few new dark/prog/tribal record labels I was unaware of

I still don't think this is a bad mix, maybe just a bit obvious.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

yeah, tbh i wasn't a fan of this one in particular either, especially when compared to how well thought-out/programmed your last downtempo/deep house mix was for the most part. don't mean to be harsh, but it felt like you just kinda slapped everything together. it's harmonically sound, but the tempos are all over the place, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, i feel like you could've done more to smooth the transitions out, or at least done so better.

most of the transitions were mixed in/out of beatless breaks of the tracks; i've done that before very sparingly in one or two of my promos as well, but to do it multiple times throughout a mix that could have been beatmatched properly just doesn't feel right. the worst culprit, imo, was the mix between (i believe) "dissolving time" and "manifold"- the outgoing track had a slower tempo than the incoming, so you mixed out of a break; that's fine, but the incoming beat came in at an oddly phrased time, which completely ruined the groove.

the same thing (pretty much) happened again between your transition out of "talk amongst yourselves" as well (a personal favorite of mine; really the only reason why i checked this mix out since i don't listen to trance)- sure, they were both in the same key, but it would have been easy enough to keylock one of the tracks and raise one of the track's speed to make the tempo uniform between the two. have you listened to the original involver? what sasha did, for example, was slowly, ever so slightly, raise the BPM of "talk amongst yourselves" until it matched the incoming BPM of "dorset perception"; it's barely audible, but he successfully changes the tempo of the mix without it abruptly interrupting the flow. you could've done the same thing here (but lowered the BPM in your situation instead, of course).

it worked better between tracks 2 and 3, but tbh this entire mix really could've been done without any mixing whatsoever, from how i'm perceiving it. you just dropped the next track at the most acceptable break, which traktor could've done using automation by itself. and while again, it's harmonically sound for the most part, the conflicting tempos that constantly vary between slower and faster made the mix and flow feel disjointed and confusing, especially due to the fact that little was done to make the two tracks work together (besides maintaining the key). do you have ableton? you could've avoided a lot of the issues i mentioned by editing your tracks beforehand in ableton.

it was an ambitious idea, but i know you can do better buddy. i'd work more on that than digging through record crates, as that pozz guy or system-j would have you believe. honestly i don't even think he even listened to the mix, because i'm almost positive that he would've told you the exact same thing i just did instead of nitpicking your tracklist.

I didn't listen, because I've already heard most of the tracks.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue yeah, tbh i wasn't a fan of this one in particular either, especially when compared to how well thought-out/programmed your last downtempo/deep house mix was for the most part. don't mean to be harsh, but it felt like you just kinda slapped everything together. it's harmonically sound, but the tempos are all over the place, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, i feel like you could've done more to smooth the transitions out, or at least done so better. most of the transitions were mixed in/out of beatless breaks of the tracks; i've done that before very sparingly in one or two of my promos as well, but to do it multiple times throughout a mix that could have been beatmatched properly just doesn't feel right. the worst culprit, imo, was the mix between (i believe) "dissolving time" and "manifold"- the outgoing track had a slower tempo than the incoming, so you mixed out of a break; that's fine, but the incoming beat came in at an oddly phrased time, which completely ruined the groove. the same thing (pretty much) happened again between your transition out of "talk amongst yourselves" as well (a personal favorite of mine; really the only reason why i checked this mix out since i don't listen to trance)- sure, they were both in the same key, but it would have been easy enough to keylock one of the tracks and raise one of the track's speed to make the tempo uniform between the two. have you listened to the original involver? what sasha did, for example, was slowly, ever so slightly, raise the BPM of "talk amongst yourselves" until it matched the incoming BPM of "dorset perception"; it's barely audible, but he successfully changes the tempo of the mix without it abruptly interrupting the flow. you could've done the same thing here (but lowered the BPM in your situation instead, of course). it worked better between tracks 2 and 3, but tbh this entire mix really could've been done without any mixing whatsoever, from how i'm perceiving it. you just dropped the next track at the most acceptable break, which traktor could've done using automation by itself. and while again, it's harmonically sound for the most part, the conflicting tempos that constantly vary between slower and faster made the mix and flow feel disjointed and confusing, especially due to the fact that little was done to make the two tracks work together (besides maintaining the key). do you have ableton? you could've avoided a lot of the issues i mentioned by editing your tracks beforehand in ableton. it was an ambitious idea, but i know you can do better buddy. i'd work more on that than digging through record crates, as that pozz guy or system-j would have you believe. honestly i don't even think he even listened to the mix, because i'm almost positive that he would've told you the exact same thing i just did instead of nitpicking your tracklist.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will agree, it was difficult for me to make the first transition work properly, but I was happy with how the rest came out. I tried beat matching some of the tracks, but I thought this just came out so much better and more fluid.

The tempos being varried across all the tracks was also on purpose, according to the feel and key of the tracks.

I was less concerned about BPM in this mix as I felt the tracks themselves had higher energy always but maybe at lower bpm during the mid to end of the set.

Also, I have never made a deep house mix

At the end of the day, the mixing and track selection could be better, but I am still personally happy with it.

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