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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-20-2011 06:42:

Shrillex - Gartner - Sebastian - Noisia

Man these guys are just killing it.

I rarely ask how things are done but man I have no idea how I would achieve such a result. Incredible stuff. Garntner and Noisia no longer answer their emails of course the ones I have are somewhat old, and I would really just like to know how they do it. I mean i don't make dance. I'm not competition. I would pay 500$ just to have a sneak peek at the work they do. But it is really cool stuff.


Posted by JEO on Jan-20-2011 06:57:

Look for "fidget house" tutorials in Youtube.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-20-2011 07:22:

i've tried, all the tutorials are really bad. I wouldn't really classify it as fidget house. IT is sort of a mix of justice style french house and noisia.


Posted by sako487 on Jan-20-2011 07:47:

experience man, no real secret

wolfgang has been doing this since 1992, its insane how good he is


Posted by LoveHate on Jan-20-2011 07:51:

yeah apparently wolfgang has been trying to get a song signed since the early 90's and had no luck until the 2000's

thats dedication right there.



alot of distortion?


Posted by Raphie on Jan-20-2011 09:08:

Analog and Sidechain (seriously)


Posted by Morvan on Jan-20-2011 10:13:

Justice, SebastiAn and G�rtner are a lot of sample based chopped up stuff.
Some parts you synthesize and you rhythmically insert chopped samples and try to make it work.
Also lots of distortion. There is also some Fidget House stuff in it, but they're focused on mainly samples.

Skrillex is more Fidget House with only a bit of sample based chopping stuff.


Posted by UXC on Jan-20-2011 17:12:

Sebastian has a new tutorial walking you through a bunch of his recent tunes. I think its available on the CD for Future Music's latest Magazine release.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Jan-20-2011 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
yeah apparently wolfgang has been trying to get a song signed since the early 90's and had no luck until the 2000's

thats dedication right there.



alot of distortion?


For some reason this does not sound strange to me, usually talents are left aside.

He is damn good, basically i think to sound a bit like him you have to exploit your effects deck, use pans, gaters, filters, flangers on every sound.

The kick snare and percussions are brilliant in it's way too, similar to Deadmau5's , there must be a tutorial in youtube for sure.

And skrillex is just dubstep, i am quite amazed of how dubstep is done but all of them sound the same so there must be a guideline.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-21-2011 02:52:

Hang on, Skrillex is not fidget house, that's just well produced dubstep AFAIK (which is fuck all).

As for the justice sound (which in itself is an extension of frech house/electro �'la Daft Punk), that's phat (yes with a "ph") synths sampled and chopped, to be played back on a sampler.

There's actually wicked video on youtube of this hiphop guy using EXS in logic to cut up a accapella and play it spread across different notes, each one cutting the last one off (via note groups and setting it to mono voice) and it sounds a lot like what the frenchies have been doing.


Posted by Morvan on Jan-21-2011 09:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Hang on, Skrillex is not fidget house, that's just well produced dubstep AFAIK (which is fuck all).

As for the justice sound (which in itself is an extension of frech house/electro �'la Daft Punk), that's phat (yes with a "ph") synths sampled and chopped, to be played back on a sampler.

Skrillex does mostly dubstep but also House.
Noisia does mostly DnB but also House.

Justice or Daft Punk have almost no songs that are not almost completely based on chopped up Samples from other tracks (usually from the 70s).


Posted by LoveHate on Jan-21-2011 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Morvan
Skrillex does also House.
Noisia does mostly DnB but also House.








you clearly have no idea what house is.


Posted by Seandroid on Jan-21-2011 11:31:

Skrillex does electro house far more often than dubstep. I don't know why everyone acts like all of his tracks are dubstep.













vv One of my favourite tracks by him.



Along with his Bad Romance, Alejandro, Rock That Body remixes, This is a Shark Attack, Slats Slats Slats, I Am Skrillex...

...etc. All electro house.

Of the top of my head the only solely dubstep tracks I can think of are Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites, Scatta, his In For The Kill remix, Fucking Die Pt 1 and is Hey Sexy Lady remix.

Anyway so yeah, I'm a big fan of him :P

As well as Nosia and Gartner.


Posted by kitphillips on Jan-21-2011 12:11:

^^^ Isn't that technically fidget rather than electro?

I'm pretty sure Noisia is more of a dubstep act though, correct?

I like Noisia but don't think much of skrillex generally. I'm only really familiar with noisia's dubstep stuff though.


Posted by Storyteller on Jan-21-2011 12:11:

Noisia comes from a drum and bass background mainly but they do hiphop, house and dubstep too.

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate

you clearly have no idea what house is.




I agree with Seandroid.


Posted by kitphillips on Jan-21-2011 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Noisia comes from a drum and bass background mainly but they do hiphop, house and dubstep too.



Whoops, right you are. I was thinking of someone else I think. Now I can't remember the name of the other guy


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jan-21-2011 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Morvan

Justice or Daft Punk have almost no songs that are not almost completely based on chopped up Samples from other tracks (usually from the 70s).



sorry, i was about to go nuts and correct you but i think you wrote "are not almost" when you wanted to say, "are almost" ? cause at the end when you say from the 70s you are right.

Justice's ENTIRE album is sampled, Daft Punks ENTIRE catalog is sampled(other than the new Tron bit). This i can prove with about 25 videos


Posted by JEO on Jan-21-2011 18:08:

My comment about fidget house was a fucking joke. I have no idea what fidget house is.

Squirm trance is where it's at.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Jan-21-2011 18:32:

The Prodigy are also masters of sampling. Sampling is an art in itself, you can spend a lot of time creating a loop without having the guarantee of sucess or pick an already existing and modify it, both things have their difficulties and good/bad things.


Posted by Mise on Jan-21-2011 18:49:

House is house, and trance is progressive.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-21-2011 18:56:

and break is core


Posted by Seandroid on Jan-21-2011 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
sorry, i was about to go nuts and correct you but i think you wrote "are not almost" when you wanted to say, "are almost" ? cause at the end when you say from the 70s you are right.

Justice's ENTIRE album is sampled, Daft Punks ENTIRE catalog is sampled(other than the new Tron bit). This i can prove with about 25 videos


He said "No songs that are not"

As in... all of their songs are.


Posted by Scrittah on Jan-21-2011 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
sorry, i was about to go nuts and correct you but i think you wrote "are not almost" when you wanted to say, "are almost" ? cause at the end when you say from the 70s you are right.

Justice's ENTIRE album is sampled, Daft Punks ENTIRE catalog is sampled(other than the new Tron bit). This i can prove with about 25 videos


Daft Punk's ENTIRE catalog is not sampled. A LOT of their stuff is - the majority of their stuff is, certainly - but to say that every single note, effect, etc. is sampled is not true. I know I'm nitpicking here, but this has just always annoyed me.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Jan-21-2011 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Scrittah
Daft Punk's ENTIRE catalog is not sampled. A LOT of their stuff is - the majority of their stuff is, certainly - but to say that every single note, effect, etc. is sampled is not true. I know I'm nitpicking here, but this has just always annoyed me.


that's obvious, sampling absolutely everything would be a chinese work.



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