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Posted by Dj_Kile on Jan-24-2011 13:02:

PSP Warmer , what great tool , what do you use for mastering !

I'm an ableton user , i tend to master my tracks using izotope ozone mainly .
Recently i discovered PSP warmer .
What a great tool this is specially compared to ozone . Ozone got alot of useless bills and whistles that do more harm than good .
PSP warmer do exactly what is expected specially for dance tracks. It makes the tune pop , higlight the basses and kick and makes it louder without too much compromising the dynamics and general atmosphere.

You might use many compination of tools to do the job , but there must one that you consider is essensial what is it ?

p.s : there are alot of threads on how to address the mastering issue whether to do it yourself or use the help of a professional , but there isn't exactly a thread talking about tools per se


Posted by aquila on Jan-24-2011 13:47:

I always found psp warmer tends to add unnecessary fuzz to my tracks. Maybe I just couldn't figure it out but I just didn't like the results it gave me.


Posted by Dj_Kile on Jan-24-2011 13:59:

I think i like it that much because it manages to compensate best what my productions lacks , your production might have enough fuzz so applying this will be overshoot as to mine probably have less so whatever this adds is within limits .


Posted by Richard Butler on Jan-24-2011 14:16:

I used the trial download but didn't go on to buy it.

I'm just trying to make the best of the limited range of kit I have and am finding the possibilites endless so for my particualr mindset, additional gear tends to bog me down.

Eevn things like updating to me are a pain, all slowing me down and distracting me.

I found it of great interest to read the amount of pros using real old kit. Squarepusher for example uses and old Yamaha Sequencer from the mid 90's for ALL his work! TOCA, the German producer uses a 2001 version of Logic.


Posted by Blake_Jarrell on Jan-24-2011 15:21:

i like putting it on a drum or synth bus to glue things together and give it a little fuzz.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Jan-24-2011 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
i like putting it on a drum or synth bus to glue things together and give it a little fuzz.


i've only used this on pianos (i use Izotope) in drums and synths it sounds too digital for me, i prefer when it sounds a bit organic and this is hard in edm i think...


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-24-2011 16:19:

I do most of my finalizing in Sound Forge 10, which includes some plugins that are based on the Ozone modules - usually the limiter and EQ, and occasionally the MB Compressor as well. But sometimes I'll use Vintage Warmer or another compressor instead.

quote:
Originally posted by aquila
I always found psp warmer tends to add unnecessary fuzz to my tracks. Maybe I just couldn't figure it out but I just didn't like the results it gave me.


Yeah, I've noticed that, especially if you start with the presets, which are way overdone IMO. I've found that it's best to back off on just about everything to make its presence less obvious. Another good alternative is Cytomic's The Glue compressor, which does a great, albeit more subtle, job at gluing a mix together.


Posted by SoundMagus on Jan-24-2011 22:16:

Sonnox
UAD Precision
BrainWorx
FabFilter


Posted by Dj_Kile on Jan-25-2011 07:11:

I use fabfilter alot too , such great precision


Posted by aquila on Jan-25-2011 08:44:

My comments about adding unnecessary fuzz were based on when I first tried it 3 years ago and gave up. This thread's inspired me to try again and actually I'm surprised at the results. Perhaps I've learned more about how this stuff works in the meantime and I know (more) what I'm doing now...


Posted by alexlosy on Jan-25-2011 15:41:

I use PSP VW a lot. Generally speaking, when I need it (which is 90% of the time) I will add it to my 'Kick and Bass' buss - but I never use the presets - always start from scratch.

One thing which always works for me to glue tracks together, which might come as a surprise to many, is Ableton's own compressor.

I always use this at the end of my chain on my 'kick and bass'buss with a high ration 30-60ms attack, low release, and only a very slight reduction in threshold to let the kick poke out heavily and give it quite a tough 'attacky' edge.

It's what works for everyone I guess - but PSP VW generally does a good job.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-25-2011 15:54:

I used to use PSP VW + Waves L2 to do my 'quick mastering' but I've been using Live 8's built-in Vintage Mastering 2 device rack recently and it works great.


Posted by alexlosy on Jan-25-2011 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick Cenik
I used to use PSP VW + Waves L2 to do my 'quick mastering' but I've been using Live 8's built-in Vintage Mastering 2 device rack recently and it works great.


Am I missing something? Live 8's built in Vintage Mastering 2 rack?

I have never seen this!? What on earth is it!?


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-25-2011 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by alexlosy
Am I missing something? Live 8's built in Vintage Mastering 2 rack?

I have never seen this!? What on earth is it!?


Audio Effects - Audio Effect Rack - Mastering - Vintage Mastering 2


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-15-2011 22:04:

Thanks for the tip with Live.

Been rewiring to Record for mixdowns. Record's audio engine is a lot better than Reasons, but sometimes you want to add the color of another DAW's summing engine/a plugin or too.

Testing out Ozone. Trying Waves too, but unlike Waves, I can afford Ozone right now.

If you use Ozone as a tool, and not just a preset bank it helps a lot. They even have a cool free PDF guide on how to Master, but I think they really mean premastering or final mix.


Posted by theterran on Feb-17-2011 23:25:

started tinkering with psp warmer2 to add some warmth to the low end and a little sparkle to the 5-6k range. Works really well, and does a better job than I can pull from a multiband.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-17-2011 23:28:

oh
my
god
its
another
mastering
thread
I
think
im
gonna
kill
myself


Posted by theterran on Feb-18-2011 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Senator Clay Davis
oh
my
god
its
another
mastering
thread
I
think
im
gonna
kill
myself


Make sure to record it, and send us both the video and your latest mastered track layed over it to keep us entertained, plzkthxbai.



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