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does homeopathy work?
some people swear it works but surfing the web i've stumbled upon a lot of controversy over it.
does anyone here have first-hand experience of homeopathy's curing effects or is it all just a heap of bullshit!?!?
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles |
when i was preparing for med school a couple years back i traveled to china and thailand to study eastern medicine and a lot of the treatments make sense. india is one of the countries that has a nice blend of eastern and western medicine that i hope the rest of the world will quickly adopt. people do get carried away with the natural remedies and that is mostly due to ignorance. but, i think that it makes more sense to take an herb that will cure you for minor ailments than popping a pill to cover up the symptoms. great video above, does anyone watch peep show...fucking love that show
i've just watched the BBC's documentary on this. they say the effect has no scientific explanation and they've ruled out placebo as the cause of the curing effect. yet, they themselves said that it "apparently worked for people". so simply being tightass skeptic isn't helping here... lack of plausible scientific explanation does not cancel any effect homeopathy ultimately has on a patient, right? or am i getting this wrong 
i guess the thing to distinguish is that the main idea behind homeopathy is treating the illness as a symptom of the whole body being out of whack. and when dealing with the root cause of most illnesses this approach does make a lot of sense. the way in which people try to re-balance the body is where you get into a lot of the weird cures such as crystals or extracts diluted to the point that they are essentially placebos. these are bogus, but if they work as placebos for people let them do it. there are actual chemical properties of herbs which act as medicine, actually it is medicine some pills are just synthetic versions of chemicals naturally found around the world. and these herbs taken in conjuncture with a specific diet and physical regimen designed to realign the body has had a lot of benefits. we are sort of slowly shifting towards this mindset in the west, there is a place where you can send your blood and have it analyzed and the doctor will give you a specific workout routine and dietary plan to lose weight. the science is slowly merging with the more natural as we advance, and that's great because it's pretty obvious that neither by themselves is enough.
There are of course a variety of actual, psychological effects at play whenever any sort of medical treatment is undergone. Whether it has been proven to "work" or not, false positive results are probably the most likely culprit when it comes to most alternative medicine - people would have been alleviated with time anyway, their confirmation bias contributing to the "proof" that this-and-that really works. Of course those are the ones you're going to hear about the most, too - most systems of magical healing and whatnot only want you to hear about the people who got better, not about the ones who lost their money on useless shit.
But then there are notable exceptions where that slippery placebo effect was at play, and there's really no reason to discount it outright; The integrity of the mind is not to be underestimated, and when somebody really believes something can work for them, and that they are in control, yet-unknown factors can contribute to their wellness in miraculous ways. Crystals and chakras and meditation just don't stand up to the same standards that vaccines, surgery, and traditional preventative measures do. They are generally poor potions, in comparison.
$1 million homeopathy challenge - http://www.randi.org/site/index.php...-feb5video.html
people like Randi, who make their living by putting on shows and making fun of everything, even when rationale seems to back them up, are out of my interest. sure, Randi is amusing to listen to and his debunking of the bending spoon and moving objects with physic force myths have to be given credit, but he's not a professional scientist and there must be a reason for that. thus, his target audience is just as well common with science as the audience of an occasional magician or healer (i.e. is as easy to convince).
i think humanity has seen moments where things considered impossible were discovered, invented or proven. there was always a major scientific society, like the royal society in UK, which declared itself of the "conventional sciences", and was always ready to stomp new ideas in their birth. yet, times have changed and we now consider these scientists apparently wrong in their ideas and views on what is possible and what is not. magicians, horoscopes and even homeopathy may be the opposite extreme, building on faith and emotions rather than knowledge and logic. but it seems to me that both extremes should be avoided.
imho notions like "i don't see it so it doesn't exist" and "i know it exists but i can't prove it" are of equal scientific value
what the fvck is she on
http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/
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| Originally posted by boris_the_bear what the fvck is she on |
talking about w-ashley, is he still posting on TA?
homeopathy is fucking bullshit and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking idiot. if homeopathy worked everything we understand about physics would be wrong.
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| Originally posted by boris_the_bear talking about w-ashley, is he still posting on TA? |
I like tylenol
I'll answer your question with a question. Does Wash Ley work?
Placebo effect perhaps? that would be the only weight homeopathy could hold.
It's a joke. There is not a single credible research-paper in the world that proves it works.
works as well as prayer, on people who are likely to believe prayer works
i was born and raised with a homeopathic doctor. he would use natural medicines before pharmacuticals, but if it was a serious illness that needed an antibiotic or something, he wasn't against prescribing. He just followed the homeopathic principals of medicine that teach you how to listen to your own body and understand how it works...so when you're not feeling well its quicker to recover and your body is stronger.
its not for everyone...you have to be a relatively healthy individual to sustain a homeopathic lifestyle. But i rarely need to go to the doctor, even when i get sick my body fights off colds in a day or two. there is something to be said for not being put on a zillion antibiotics growing up for every single cold or sniffle. people destroy their immune systems beyond repair and have lifelong problems from that shit.
it won't cure cancer, but it might prevent you from getting cancer to begin with 
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| Originally posted by AMMORA you have to be a relatively healthy individual to sustain a homeopathic lifestyle. |
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