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what to do about harsh promoters...

Ok so we know this promoter who has hooked us up with gigs before, all of them non-paying for local rave things.
Now he is hooking us up with a much bigger gig (going to play at a club the same night a top 20 dj at a club is playing, but in a different section-)

But he is really treating us like shit. He doesn't treat us that way directly, but everything he does. And I say 'we' because I dj with a friend.

First of all we're playing for free because we're still trying to get the name out and stuff and aren't that big, but still, we're doing him a favor. Second, he's given us tickets to sell for the event- tickets just went on sale a week ago and he's telling us shit like 'you guys have to sell the 20 tickets you have by THIS wednesday' when the event is still a five weeks away. We're selling tickets for him, not getting offered any complimentary tickets, and playing for free.
Not only this but he's telling us he just booked another dj in the room we're playing because he's sold 75 tickets (which I know is total bullshit - he hasn't advertised the event once. Me and my friend have been advertising the event like CRAZY and so far we only have like 10 sales. We're still djing but I don't know what the promoter was trying to get at with that, just lying, trying to get us to tell more tickets in competition?

I think it's bullshit..

But I don't know what to do because honestly this guy has hooked us up with a lot of gigs that help us get the name out. I just started realizing how much he takes advantage of us though.. What would you guys do in my position?

thanks.

Do the show and just play Steve Angello-Knas on repeat for the entire set.

Stop DJing if you're uncomfortable with the reality that promoters are the scum of the earth.

Throw down a sick Para Para set. That'll show him!

Listen, kid! You have till this Wednesday to sell those tickets and guess what! That IS your fucking compensation. I would have no idea if you scalped them, unless you're fucking stupid and if you want freebies, buy them yourself. Your shit is dime-a-dozen.

That's dime a fuckin' dozen, wise-ass, and I've got twenty in line who are quite a bit better for less. I've been nice, up to this point, but if I find shit like this on the internet, again, I'll make sure you can't even land a gig in your bedroom!

stab the promoter in the ass and make pancakes.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Your shit is dime-a-dozen. That's dime a fuckin' dozen, wise-ass, and I've got twenty in line who are quite a bit better for less.

throw your own party.

there was no dick sucking option? promoters these days, sickening.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Listen, kid! You have till this Wednesday to sell those tickets and guess what! That IS your fucking compensation. I would have no idea if you scalped them, unless you're fucking stupid and if you want freebies, buy them yourself. Your shit is dime-a-dozen. That's dime a fuckin' dozen, wise-ass, and I've got twenty in line who are quite a bit better for less. I've been nice, up to this point, but if I find shit like this on the internet, again, I'll make sure you can't even land a gig in your bedroom!

Bitch I ain't playing for you no more. I'm doing fine without you .

You're fucking retarded if you continue to play for that promoter. It's not your job to sell tickets, and if you're not getting paid in cash then you should at least be getting some guest list spots and/or some drink tickets. My advice would be to stop dealing with the guy. Move on, find another promoter.

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Originally posted by idoru You're fucking retarded if you continue to play for that promoter. It's not your job to sell tickets, and if you're not getting paid in cash then you should at least be getting some guest list spots and/or some drink tickets. My advice would be to stop dealing with the guy. Move on, find another promoter.

After that last post. He fuckin' kissed it goodbye - and the kid didn't even realize how good he had it. He could have been the next Guetta, only not as good, but still. He's not going to find another promoter/manager/whatever.

Anyone who's paying isn't going to waste it on people who aren't willing to do a little sales work of their own and his grand-standing bullshit, like he deserves better, wouldn't be put up with by any other talent pimp.

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Originally posted by idoru You're fucking retarded if you continue to play for that promoter. It's not your job to sell tickets, and if you're not getting paid in cash then you should at least be getting some guest list spots and/or some drink tickets. My advice would be to stop dealing with the guy. Move on, find another promoter.

part of a local dj's job is to promote the events he plays at...sorry jake.

you can spare this stuff when you are known and an automatic draw, but until then if you don't do some of the promotions and bring some people into the club, you won't work too much.

shit flows down man, until people are established they have to do what it takes to get there.

tiesto is a total hack, but for example he would clean the bathrooms in the club he first played in to get his foot in the door. You want to show up and just play? Doesn't work well with nobodies.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay part of a local dj's job is to promote the events he plays at...sorry jake. you can spare this stuff when you are known and an automatic draw, but until then if you don't do some of the promotions and bring some people into the club, you won't work too much. shit flows down man, until people are established they have to do what it takes to get there. tiesto is a total hack, but for example he would clean the bathrooms in the club he first played in to get his foot in the door. You want to show up and just play? Doesn't work well with nobodies.

Hold on a second, I completely agree with you. I've been there, I've put in the work. However, there's a difference between helping to promote the event that you're playing at and doing all of the promotion yourself while being expected to meet a precise "quota" of ticket sales.

my misunderstanding jake, i took your post out of context.

Wanna fuck?

only if you sell enough tickets....sell 20 you get a bike, sell 30 i'll treat you like my kike.

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Originally posted by idoru Hold on a second, I completely agree with you. I've been there, I've put in the work. However, there's a difference between helping to promote the event that you're playing at and doing all of the promotion yourself while being expected to meet a precise "quota" of ticket sales.

this is my exact view.

This guy is so up our asses that I've been promoting the event far more than he has around facebook- and as soon as he gives me flyers i'm gonna start posting them up.

Another person from the promoting group he's in sent me a message asking if I can help promote the event, which of course I will, I'll definitely help them do that. But the other guy is a dick making us work our asses off selling tickets, trying to set up a "fake" competition for us in a ticket selling race.

The 'other' dj he said that had already sold 75 tickets isn't even on the line-up yet, plus he's not even old enough to attend the event (he's two years younger - and i'm pretty sure most of his friends aren't above the age limit either) . It's all BS lies trying to make me sell more tickets.

Poop in his hat.

honest question though...if you were the promoter, what would be the biggest qualification you would expect from a dj you might want to hire?

That they're good at DJing, have potential , and have the ability to bring a crowd.

the other 2 are nice and stuff...but point number 3 is what 99% of promoters want most.

it is all about the ROI.

Promoter in **** shocker

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay the other 2 are nice and stuff...but point number 3 is what 99% of promoters want most. it is all about the ROI.

We do have the ability to bring a crowd. This probably means something (for others it might not) but we have about 500 fans on facebook, the other guy has about half - and like I mentioned before, he's not even old enough to attend the event, so it'd be hard to imagine he's going to attract crowds who are above age.

The guy hardly ever dj's (maybe once a month) - we DJ every other weekend and constantly play clubs.

It's harsh..

I'm not pissed at the dj though. I'm pissed at the promoter for lying to us and treating us so badly.

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