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Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-13-2011 21:59:

Song Sample

[Tranceaddict.com] Golston - Argonauts Of The Western Pacific (Un-Finished1) by CalebGolston

I think I want to develop this one. Not sure what genre it is (accordingly unsure what I would do with it when it was finished).


Posted by Richard Butler on Feb-13-2011 22:05:

Quite a good melodic quality and has potental. Not sure what your'e asking here though?

Long song titles kill me though, I never buy anything with a log title esp when it get's remixed and you get a 17 word title.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-13-2011 22:10:

It's the title of Anthropologist Bronislaw Malinowski's book. Idk if I will actually use it, lol.

Question? I don't know where to send it when it's done. It kind of reminds me of Avviciiii's style.


Posted by sako487 on Feb-13-2011 23:02:

its got a long way to go before getting signed


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-13-2011 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by sako487
its got a long way to go before getting signed

not really. i had my first release after year or two. its all about luck, timing and network. skill means nothing.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-14-2011 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by sako487
its got a long way to go before getting signed


lol. I know, I have only spent 2 hours on it. I just want to take it the right direction and know where to send in when I am finished.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-14-2011 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
not really. i had my first release after year or two. its all about luck, timing and network. skill means nothing.


I agree with Khaio. Also, I want it to be good and don't want it signed if it isn't.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-14-2011 00:24:

ok it just seemed really important for you to get it signed as you started asking about where you could send it even before it was finished.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-14-2011 04:08:

nah, want to get the genre str8 before I proceed so I know how to treat it.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-14-2011 12:23:

lol what? google ishgurs guide to edm. then you get your "genres" "straight". or you could try to be original and forget about being in a box.


Posted by J.L. on Feb-14-2011 17:26:

Seriously, just produce whatever comes into your mind.

You don't want people to be thinking "Oh great, another typical prog track"


Posted by kevin shawn on Feb-14-2011 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Senator Clay Davis
skill means nothing.



So you are responsible for the massive amounts of garbage that I have to listen to when looking for new tracks.

95% of new releases suck ass and that's why right there. Skill means nothing? Skill is everything.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-14-2011 20:33:

not if your goal is to get a release or being "signed". i blame the labels. producers do as good as they can.


Posted by kevin shawn on Feb-14-2011 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Senator Clay Davis
not if your goal is to get a release or being "signed". i blame the labels. producers do as good as they can.


Yea the labels need to release more quality and less quantity. More tracks on your label means a better chance at making money I understand.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-14-2011 20:39:

i dont think anything means nothing anymore. if your good youll come through to the fans somehow. with a label or not.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-14-2011 22:04:

I don't think so. It is almost impossible to gain a following without people at the top telling people to like you. I think maybe Mango built a fanbase but can't really think of anyone else.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-15-2011 09:03:

Your sample sounds way overprocessed to me...


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 19:27:

That is because my motto is 'If it sounds too compressed put more compressor on and see if it gets any better'


Posted by Raphie on Feb-15-2011 19:35:

I only hear some severe clipped sampled drumloops, wouldn't call this a "track" yet


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 19:38:

Only one hihat loop mate; the rest including clap and kick and ride are mine. Never said it was a track. It is a 'sample' of a work in progress. One I have spent 2 hours on.

I don't understand compression all that well but wouldn't dare start a thread about it...


Posted by Raphie on Feb-15-2011 19:42:

Ok, try the following, which should get you in the right direction.


kick peaking @ -8db
mix clap to kick
mix hh loop to clap/kick
mix rest of percussion.
put all percussion on a subgroup
put a compressor on top med attack med release ratio 2:1 5db GR
mix bassline with kick (maybe sidechain bassline a bit to get "pump"
don't put anything on you master

tell me what's good or bad....


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 19:43:

What do you mean by 'mix... to'?


Posted by Raphie on Feb-15-2011 19:49:

use the kick as reference, don't put it too loud (-8dbfs is a good startingpoint but even softer might be better) and keep using that kick as volume reference, build around the kick, maintaining headroom in your mix, preventing distortion. if oyu want it louder just turn the volume up instead. will sound a lot better and create headroom for further development in your track.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 19:51:

I'll give this a shot and repost the same clip with the changes! Thanks for giving a critism and offering a solution.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 22:11:

original; changes

[Tranceaddict.com] Golston - Argonauts Of The Western Pacific (Un-Finished1) by CalebGolston

Caleb Golston - AOTWP (Raphie Edit) Tranceaddict.com by CalebGolston

Redid some levels suggested by DJ Raphie (would have made some of the changes later anyhow). Don't know if this helps but I added a small animated dancing asian chick in my project...


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