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Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-15-2011 14:26:

producer new to dj'ing

Ok so i've got about 30 mins experience total of mixing with decks over my lifetime....

bassicly I've got a EP comming out and a few good clubs have offered me a spot.

I'm in Australia, here the standard is cdj3000 ( maybe that's the stardard everywhere?)


Anyway Im a student on a budget and was thinking maybe I could go for a usb Mixer (with tractor or whatever) that closely resembles the action of pioneer cdj's...as a cheap option to quickly try and get some practice in.

ive declined offers for now but would like to know what the best option for a guy like me in this situation would be?

cheers for any advice.

Edit* I had the bdc3000 for a month then sold it due to lack of interest.


Posted by PivotTechno on Feb-15-2011 14:47:

Keep declining until you actually learn how to mix - the last thing that's needed is another hack DJ who gets booked purely because of their production.

Adversely, if you have zero integrity and are innit purely for the benjamins, then go for it!


Posted by Rodri Santos on Feb-15-2011 16:40:

i don't see the connection between producing and getting gigs, not at the "amateur" level , i can't see my local clubs promoting producers... what a pity in my case.

But decline if you don't know the basics, you'll ruin your reputation forever, you can get a mac and start using ableton live or traktor like a lot of people do...


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Feb-15-2011 16:41:

just do what every other producer that can't dj does. pre arrange some loops in ableton and advertise yourself as a live act.

just make sure you have lots of cool gear near you...you don't even have to use it or plug it in, no one will notice.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-15-2011 18:39:

prerecord sets in ableton, put it on a cd and go have a good time, free drinks and girls. twist those eq knobs like a madman (on the channel not playing of course). remember to have a prerecorded set playing on each of the cd players incase something goes wrong you can put up the other fader. just remember to put the eqs on default before doing that.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 23:08:

I realise the two people above were probably joking but I have a friend who has several major remixes that has done that.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-15-2011 23:15:

im not joking, if you are offered gigs because of your own productions you can get away with almost anything. if you turn it down you will regret the rest of your life. show up and deliver some music, no one care if you actually know how to dj aslong as it sounds good in the club.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-15-2011 23:47:

Cool. I like practical approaches like that.


Posted by david.michael on Feb-16-2011 00:18:

Jesus.


Posted by david.michael on Feb-16-2011 00:19:

No, really, just do the Jesus pose.


Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-16-2011 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
No, really, just do the Jesus pose.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Feb-16-2011 01:22:

Re: producer new to dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by Kid_presentable
I'm in Australia, here the standard is cdj3000 ( maybe that's the stardard everywhere?)


i thought the 2000 was the latest model


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 02:45:

Ok so i got basiccly got no advice except from about 3 of you...I stated clearly that I had declined the offers.........the question once again:

what usb mixer if any resembles the action of the pioneer cdjxxxx?


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 02:48:

Re: Re: producer new to dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
i thought the 2000 was the latest model
maybe im mistaken, what is the club standard in your area?


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Feb-16-2011 04:29:

Re: Re: Re: producer new to dj'ing

quote:
Originally posted by Kid_presentable
maybe im mistaken, what is the club standard in your area?


CDJ5000

Get your facts straight


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd [/bi] thought the 2000 was the latest model


quote:
[b]Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
CDJ5000

Get your facts straight



get fu(ked


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Feb-16-2011 07:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Kid_presentable
get fu(ked


you better watch your language or else


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 07:16:

U mad bro ? u mad? come at me bro......



Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Feb-16-2011 07:22:

for someone who doesn't know a thing about djing needs shut him self up and go to sleep


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 07:25:

lol...what is your point in this thread? to troll? I;m just looking for a answer to a simple question...if you don't no shit about the question.....click next thread............BRO


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 07:51:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Keep declining until you actually learn how to mix - the last thing that's needed is another hack DJ who gets booked purely because of their production.
true, don't forget you rely on those producers to do YOUR thing.


Posted by Quazar on Feb-16-2011 09:26:

I use a Hercules RMX midi controller. It's ~$250-$300 and great for bedroom DJing/house parties/practice, etc. You could even use it in a club if you really wanted to (it's sturdy enough).

Obviously the platters aren't near the quality of CDJs, and it's a no-go for scratching, but if you're simply looking to practice transitioning between songs, using loops, basic effects, etc. it's great.

It's designed for Virtual DJ, though, so if you're planning on using Traktor you may want to look into the Numark Omni, it's very similar but designed for Traktor.


Posted by PivotTechno on Feb-16-2011 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Kid_presentable
true, don't forget you rely on those producers to do YOUR thing.


Thanks for the sage wisdom, already well aware of that fact. Also aware that some of my favourite producers can't DJ to save their skin and have felt royally ripped off on more than a few occasions when I shelled out to hear one of them play, only to discover that their mixing and programming skills were pretty much nonexistent outside of the studio.

Don't be one of those producers.


Posted by Kid_presentable on Feb-16-2011 13:27:

those producers deserve there cut of the money, and they can't rely on royalties. maybe you should lower your expectation's when your going to see a producers show, rather then a dj's show.


I'm not aware if you produce or not, but it takes a lot of practice, and time spent practicing beat matching is probably on the back burner...

If you think their tracks are banging, does it really matter if they are mixed together well? think other genres where they even take a break between tracks.


Posted by PivotTechno on Feb-16-2011 14:28:

If they want to DJ - which also takes lots of practice - they should learn how to DJ.

And yes, it does matter if their tracks are mixed together well.


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